[cfaussie] FusionReactor vs built in Coldfusion 8 monitor

2010-02-08 Thread BarryC
Hi All

we are looking at getting FusionReactor, but will be upgrading from
Coldfusion 7 to Coldfusion 8  in several months.
How does FusionReactor compare to the Coldfusion 8 monitor tool built
in to the CF Administrator, does it provide much on top of the
Coldfusion 8 monitor, or is it worth just waiting till we upgrade to
Coldfusion 8?

Thanks
Barry.

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Re: [cfaussie] FusionReactor vs built in Coldfusion 8 monitor

2010-02-08 Thread Scott Thornton
I like Fusionreaactor's ability to kill off processes.. I don't think that is 
built into 8 or 9.

 BarryC barrychester...@gmail.com 09/02/2010 9:24 am 
Hi All

we are looking at getting FusionReactor, but will be upgrading from
Coldfusion 7 to Coldfusion 8  in several months.
How does FusionReactor compare to the Coldfusion 8 monitor tool built
in to the CF Administrator, does it provide much on top of the
Coldfusion 8 monitor, or is it worth just waiting till we upgrade to
Coldfusion 8?

Thanks
Barry.

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RE: [cfaussie] FusionReactor vs built in Coldfusion 8 monitor

2010-02-08 Thread Mark Ireland

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 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 09:41:14 +1100
 From: scott.thorn...@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au
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 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] FusionReactor vs built in Coldfusion 8 monitor
 
 I like Fusionreaactor's ability to kill off processes.. I don't think that is 
 built into 8 or 9.
 
  BarryC barrychester...@gmail.com 09/02/2010 9:24 am 
 Hi All
 
 we are looking at getting FusionReactor, but will be upgrading from
 Coldfusion 7 to Coldfusion 8  in several months.
 How does FusionReactor compare to the Coldfusion 8 monitor tool built
 in to the CF Administrator, does it provide much on top of the
 Coldfusion 8 monitor, or is it worth just waiting till we upgrade to
 Coldfusion 8?
 
 Thanks
 Barry.
 
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RE: [cfaussie] FusionReactor vs built in Coldfusion 8 monitor

2010-02-08 Thread charlie arehart
Barry, to be clear, just upgrading to CF8 won't get you the CF Server
Monitor--you do need to be using the Enterprise (or Developer) edition.

As for how they compare, no one has done a close analysis (that I know of).
I will say that I use both, every day, often on the same server (both my own
and those of others): yes, that means that I and others run FusionReactor on
CF 8/9 Enterprise/Developer servers. It may seem redundant, but it's not. 

For instance, FR does tremendous logging. The CF Server Monitor does none.
Sometimes, you need to see details of what was happening in the past (such
as before a crash, or just hours/days/months ago), and having those FR logs
can be vital. They track each request, each query (if such tracking is
enabled for a DSN), as well as overall stats every 5 seconds (by default)
which high-level counters like number of running/completed requests, number
of running/completed queries, memory use, CPU (CF and system), and more. 

I am also surprised to find that both the memory graph in both the CF
Monitor and SeeFusion show the top of the y axis as the amount of
*allocated* memory, rather than the max memory (xmx). Of course, if mxs=xmx,
then it's not an issue, but for those who do run xmsxmx, the graphs in
those other monitors can lead one to think memory is running out, when
it's not.

All that said, I'm a fan of all three monitoring tools. Each adds something
that the other doesn't.  My focus here was more on your specific point,
about whether a CF 8/9 Enterprise server would benefit from having FR as
well. And again, for sure, if you're not going to be running Enterprise,
then you will want to consider either FR or SF (or both). I actually run all
three (on multiple servers) and have found there to be no negative impact
from them, though I realize our inclination would be that any monitoring
must cause some overhead. 

/charlie


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 Subject: [cfaussie] FusionReactor vs built in Coldfusion 8 monitor
 
 Hi All
 
 we are looking at getting FusionReactor, but will be upgrading from
 Coldfusion 7 to Coldfusion 8  in several months.
 How does FusionReactor compare to the Coldfusion 8 monitor tool built
 in to the CF Administrator, does it provide much on top of the
 Coldfusion 8 monitor, or is it worth just waiting till we upgrade to
 Coldfusion 8?
 
 Thanks
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