Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFUG Melbourne May 2010: Framework One. NOTE CHANGE OF NIGHT AND LOCATION.

2010-05-13 Thread Peter Robertson
Sean, thank you very much for popping in, your availability will be most
welcome, I'm sure.

Cheers



Peter Robertson

On 14 May 2010 06:38, seancorfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On May 13, 5:36 am, Peter Robertson pe...@p-robertson.com wrote:
  This month Phil Haeusler will present on FW/1 - Framework One, 'The
  Invisible Framework'.

 I'm very pleased to see this! I know AJ presented FW/1 at webDU, for
 which I'm very grateful, and I rejoined cfaussie today when he let
 know about Phil's preso so I can be around on the list if anyone has
 questions about the framework. Thanx in advance Phil! Let me know if I
 can help with anything for your preso...

 Sean

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RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFUG Melbourne May 2010: Framework One. NOTE CHANGE OF NIGHT AND LOCATION.

2010-05-13 Thread Dale Fraser
If you're out there thinking that you don't need a framework and that
frameworks make things too hard then consider this.

 

I am an ANTI framework person, generally when presented with frameworks I'm
looking for how they make things easier and not complicate things.

 

I really enjoyed the WebDU talk by Andrew and this one from Phil should be
very good.

 

FW/1 is a bit different and defiantly worth a look even if you're not a
framework person id encourage you to come along.

 

It's also at our new offices which has a lot larger board room, so we can
fit in lots of people.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

http://dale.fraser.id.au

http://cfmldocs.com http://cfmldocs.com/ 

http://learncf.com

http://flexcf.com

 

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Of Peter Robertson
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Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFUG Melbourne May 2010: Framework One. NOTE
CHANGE OF NIGHT AND LOCATION.

 

Sean, thank you very much for popping in, your availability will be most
welcome, I'm sure.

 

Cheers

 

 

 

Peter Robertson

On 14 May 2010 06:38, seancorfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:

On May 13, 5:36 am, Peter Robertson pe...@p-robertson.com wrote:
 This month Phil Haeusler will present on FW/1 - Framework One, 'The
 Invisible Framework'.

I'm very pleased to see this! I know AJ presented FW/1 at webDU, for
which I'm very grateful, and I rejoined cfaussie today when he let
know about Phil's preso so I can be around on the list if anyone has
questions about the framework. Thanx in advance Phil! Let me know if I
can help with anything for your preso...

Sean


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Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFUG Melbourne May 2010: Framework One. NOTE CHANGE OF NIGHT AND LOCATION.

2010-05-13 Thread Phil Haeusler

Couldn't have said it better myself Dale.

I've got archives of half-aborted projects created with various 
frameworks over the years where I ended up spending more time tending to 
the framework than on the application itself.   That may well be a 
failing of me not understanding how to make the framework work.  But why 
should i have to bother about that?  I'm generally lazy.


Getting into FW/1 earlier in the year was really enlightening and i came 
quickly to the understand the usefulness of a framework that does all it 
can to not get in your way.


I've known for years there were theoretical benefits to using frameworks 
and it was only once i got started with FW/1 that these really started 
to click for me.


So if you're in Melbourne, it would be great to see you at the next CFUG.

Phil


On 14/05/10 10:45 AM, Dale Fraser wrote:


If you're out there thinking that you don't need a framework and that 
frameworks make things too hard then consider this.


I am an ANTI framework person, generally when presented with 
frameworks I'm looking for how they make things easier and not 
complicate things.


I really enjoyed the WebDU talk by Andrew and this one from Phil 
should be very good.


FW/1 is a bit different and defiantly worth a look even if you're not 
a framework person id encourage you to come along.


It's also at our new offices which has a lot larger board room, so we 
can fit in lots of people.


Regards

Dale Fraser

http://dale.fraser.id.au

http://cfmldocs.com http://cfmldocs.com/

http://learncf.com

http://flexcf.com

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*Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFUG Melbourne May 2010: Framework One. 
NOTE CHANGE OF NIGHT AND LOCATION.


Sean, thank you very much for popping in, your availability will be 
most welcome, I'm sure.


Cheers

Peter Robertson

On 14 May 2010 06:38, seancorfield seancorfi...@gmail.com 
mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:


On May 13, 5:36 am, Peter Robertson pe...@p-robertson.com 
mailto:pe...@p-robertson.com wrote:

 This month Phil Haeusler will present on FW/1 - Framework One, 'The
 Invisible Framework'.

I'm very pleased to see this! I know AJ presented FW/1 at webDU, for
which I'm very grateful, and I rejoined cfaussie today when he let
know about Phil's preso so I can be around on the list if anyone has
questions about the framework. Thanx in advance Phil! Let me know if I
can help with anything for your preso...

Sean


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