Re: [cfaussie] Least hated favourite J2EE Server for CF
I'd like to hear an answer for Andrew Myers question... On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the old days when I was solely a Java developer I always thought of Tomcat was seen as a reference implementation rather than a production ready server. Has that view changed? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Least hated favourite J2EE Server for CF
JRun actually does the trick. JRun is very outdated, it doesn't even handle basic security like HTTPonly cookies, you can hack them in by using undocumented hacks on the jrun-web.xml, but other servers do this as a basic function. If security isn't an issue then JRUN is fine for 99% of things. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Least hated favourite J2EE Server for CF
Yes, Tomcat 6 is certainly a very capable production-ready Servlet container. I've run Adobe ColdFusion on Tomcat and JBoss quite a bit over the years but you need a WAR deployment which I believe means Enterprise Edition for production (it's been a while since I checked that - can someone confirm/deny?). ColdFusion 9 no longer lists Tomcat as a supported platform as I recall, just JBoss, and I believe that has something to do with the addition of Hibernate support (again, supposition - if anyone can confirm, that would be nice). For the vast majority of Adobe ColdFusion users, I see no reason to go with the additional complexity of WAR deployment and a Servlet container or JEE container other than JRun. For one thing, there are some management features which rely on JRun so you'll lose a few features in your CF Admin if you deploy to something else. I started using Tomcat as a deployment target for ColdFusion as soon as the CFMX J2EE Edition appeared (late 2002 or early 2003) so that I could run CFMX on my Mac. The Macromedia Web Team had an existing Tomcat instance that was part of the (pre-Allaire-acquisition) content management system and I put CFMX on that as well. During my time at Adobe, we went to production with CF8 on JBoss for a project I was on within the hosted services division (Web Team continued to use JRun). So it's definitely a matter of what you need from your installation. Of course, OpenBD and Railo expose the whole WAR deployment approach so you don't get an integrated install procedure but you can run them on any Servlet container and once you go that route, you can run multiple engines side-by-side. You'll see several blog posts out there from community members talking about running all three engines side-by-side on JRun, Tomcat, JBoss... Sean On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the old days when I was solely a Java developer I always thought of Tomcat was seen as a reference implementation rather than a production ready server. Has that view changed? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Least hated favourite J2EE Server for CF
On 1/07/2010 12:49 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: I've run Adobe ColdFusion on Tomcat and JBoss quite a bit over the years but you need a WAR deployment which I believe means Enterprise Edition for production (it's been a while since I checked that - can someone confirm/deny?). Confirmed war deployment if enterprise only. Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Least hated favourite J2EE Server for CF
Given that Tomcat 7 is out, has got me wondering what would be the better platform for CF deployments. What's your least hated favourite server for running CF? -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Least hated favourite J2EE Server for CF
IIS Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Bowers Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 2010 12:21 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Least hated favourite J2EE Server for CF Given that Tomcat 7 is out, has got me wondering what would be the better platform for CF deployments. What's your least hated favourite server for running CF? -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Least hated favourite J2EE Server for CF
Realistically I think for most of the scenarios people go with JRun actually does the trick. The only reason to deviate from that would probably be for integration reasons with particular Java/JEE technologies that might not be that well supported on JRun (due to its age) or due to customer requirements, i.e. We have paid ridiculous amounts of money for IBM Websphere so you better manage to run CF on it. Besides that - I think JBoss is a very good Java platform to run pretty much anything on. There's been speculation for long time if (and for what) Adobe would abandon JRun as the default CF Java server. I personally think that currently JBoss would be the best platform for such a step - not saying that it's going to happen any time soon. Cheers Kai Given that Tomcat 7 is out, has got me wondering what would be the better platform for CF deployments. What's your least hated favourite server for running CF? -- Kai Koenig - Ventego Creative Ltd ph: +64 4 476 6781 - mob: +64 21 928 365 / +61 450 132 117 web: http://www.ventego-creative.co.nz blog: http://www.bloginblack.de twitter: http://www.twitter.com/agentK -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Least hated favourite J2EE Server for CF
The Railo guys seemed to suggest things were heading towards Tomcat for larger deployments during Monday night's presentation. They mentioned Resin and Jetty for smaller deployments. Robin On 30/06/2010, at 12:21 PM, Geoff Bowers wrote: Given that Tomcat 7 is out, has got me wondering what would be the better platform for CF deployments. What's your least hated favourite server for running CF? -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Least hated favourite J2EE Server for CF
Back in the old days when I was solely a Java developer I always thought of Tomcat was seen as a reference implementation rather than a production ready server. Has that view changed? On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:54:38 +1000, Robin Hilliard ro...@rocketboots.com.au wrote: The Railo guys seemed to suggest things were heading towards Tomcat for larger deployments during Monday night's presentation. They mentioned Resin and Jetty for smaller deployments. Robin On 30/06/2010, at 12:21 PM, Geoff Bowers wrote: Given that Tomcat 7 is out, has got me wondering what would be the better platform for CF deployments. What's your least hated favourite server for running CF? -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
