[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-16 Thread Pat Branley
Ive posted to this list before about my opposing view to workstation driven devlelopment. Its not that I dont think its a good idea, its great if you have the hardware, tools, and portable applications to support it. BUT... you can still get away with using a shared server! our team (including

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-16 Thread Andrea
I agree with your point, but not completely ;) That setting is what we also were doing in the past, for some sites. Even though it works we had major issues when the server needs to be restarted or a programmer just crash the all thing doing testing and so on and so forth or a producer is

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-16 Thread Andrew Scott
Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Branley Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2007 11:29 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-16 Thread Mark Ireland
Are are any of the people following this thread using subclipse in Eclipse? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ? Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:28:58 -0700 Ive posted to this list before about my opposing view

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-16 Thread Andrew Scott
:36 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ? Are are any of the people following this thread using subclipse in Eclipse? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ? Date: Tue

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-16 Thread Kym Kovan
Mark Ireland wrote: Are are any of the people following this thread using subclipse in Eclipse? Yes, we are. We also use TortoiseSVN at the desktop and had been using that for some time before we moved to CFEclipse as our base dev environment. We tried Subversive in Eclipse and had hassles

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-16 Thread Haikal Saadh
Andrew Scott wrote: Shared development is not good, and why would you do it and force your developers into putting up with other developers breaking code while you are trying to do your job? Downtime is a very good reason to be more productive and move to workstation development. Or,

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-16 Thread Leon Seremelis
We use subclipse as well. From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Ireland Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 9:36 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ? Are are any of the people following this thread using

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-15 Thread Andrea
Thanks Geoff, i saw those links while ago hen I was doing some research on the matter... very helpful ;) On Oct 15, 3:52 pm, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrea, On Oct 15, 10:04 am, Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any extra ideas/ best practice I guess everyone has

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-14 Thread Haikal Saadh
IMO, the age of designers who only do photoshop or html is long gone... maybe they could be trained to write their presentation layer stuff as coldfusion pages and/or custom tags? That aside, if you think option 3 will break your post-commit scripts, why not use maven instead of ant, and

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-14 Thread Toby Tremayne
I'd have to agree. I've tried it a number of different ways, and the only really feasible option is to make designers use source control. On both mac and windows there are very easy to use ways to tie in source control through your explorer windows or into dreamweaver etc etc but if you really

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-14 Thread Andrea
cool I never used maven before, I will definetely have a look at it... On Oct 15, 10:12 am, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, the age of designers who only do photoshop or html is long gone... maybe they could be trained to write their presentation layer stuff as coldfusion pages

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-14 Thread Andrew Scott
Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrea Sent: Monday, 15 October 2007 10:33 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-14 Thread Andrea
Andrew... That's exactly what I'm actually trying to achieve with solution 3... :) I just do not want designers to have the need to install CF and apache on their machines... designers will over-kill me ! .. that's why in solution 3 they will work directly on the server (on a shared folder)

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-14 Thread Toby Tremayne
Andrea, I'd recommend against the shared repository - I went that way with a team a few years ago and it was very painful. You have the difficulties of user tracking etc, and when you start using tags and branches properly everything goes to hell, but primarily we found using the dev server

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-14 Thread Andrew Scott
: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Toby Tremayne Sent: Monday, 15 October 2007 11:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ? Andrea, I'd recommend against the shared

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-14 Thread Andrea
@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ? Andrea, I'd recommend against the shared repository - I went that way with a team a few years ago and it was very painful. You have the difficulties of user tracking etc, and when you start using tags and branches

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-14 Thread Barry Beattie
: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Toby Tremayne Sent: Monday, 15 October 2007 11:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ? Andrea, I'd recommend against the shared repository

[cfaussie] Re: CF + Subversion best practices ?

2007-10-14 Thread Geoff Bowers
Andrea, On Oct 15, 10:04 am, Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any extra ideas/ best practice I guess everyone has sort of similar issues Your best bet is to set up a local application environment for your designers, and have them commit changes to the repository just like your