[chromium-dev] LayoutTest unexpected success

2009-07-14 Thread Adam Barth
Looking at the buildbot, there are a bunch of LayoutTests that are supposed to fail, timeout, or crash, but which actually pass. We should update our test expectations / close the cooresponding bugs. I'll do this tomorrow afternoon if no one beats me to it. Enjoy: Expected to fail, but passed

[chromium-dev] Re: LayoutTest unexpected success

2009-07-14 Thread Adam Barth
Wow, there are even more on Mac: Expected to fail, but passed (39) Adam On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Adam Barthaba...@chromium.org wrote: Looking at the buildbot, there are a bunch of LayoutTests that are supposed to fail, timeout, or crash, but which actually pass.  We should update

[chromium-dev] FYI canvas is hosed

2009-07-14 Thread Dean McNamee
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27187 -- dean --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev

[chromium-dev] Re: LayoutTest unexpected success

2009-07-14 Thread Amanda Walker
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:40 AM, Adam Barthaba...@chromium.org wrote: Wow, there are even more on Mac: Expected to fail, but passed (39) If some of those are plugin related, it's because I didn't remember last night that the --enable-plugins flag I checked in didn't affect test shell, so many

[chromium-dev] Re: LayoutTest unexpected success

2009-07-14 Thread Amanda Walker
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Adam Barthaba...@chromium.org wrote: Expected to crash, but passed (9):  LayoutTests/fast/dom/offset-parent-positioned-and-inline.html  LayoutTests/fast/events/message-channel-gc-2.html  LayoutTests/fast/events/message-channel-gc-4.html  

[chromium-dev] Re: Improving power usage

2009-07-14 Thread Joel Stanley
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 01:52, Evan Martine...@chromium.org wrote: I've used it to browse on real hardware; the Beagleboard, an OMAP3 based ARM board with 128MB of RAM. Wow, impressive.  How much do you think multi-process hurts us? The full story is 128MB of RAM + 128MB of swap on a slow

[chromium-dev] Re: Improving power usage

2009-07-14 Thread Joel Stanley
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 03:09, Craig Schlentercraig.schlen...@gmail.com wrote: I've mentioned this to Joel off-list but in case anyone else is interested, I have code that runs background tabs at lower scheduling priorities on linux. Thanks. Are you able to post the newer version you

[chromium-dev] Re: LayoutTest unexpected success

2009-07-14 Thread Mohamed Mansour
Lets wait a bit before re-enabling tests, but they seem to act happy, unlike last night. If no one re-enables them, I can do it when I get home around 6 EST. -- Mohamed Mansour On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Amanda Walker ama...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Adam

[chromium-dev] Re: Improving power usage

2009-07-14 Thread Joel Stanley
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 00:53, Dan Kegeld...@kegel.com wrote: It'd be nice if users didn't have to do that... does HTML 5 specify any kind of low power idle state for applications? Ideally when the screen blanks, we'd want all the apps to go into some kind of low power state, wouldn't we? It

[chromium-dev] Re: LayoutTest unexpected success

2009-07-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
I think we should re-enable them ASAP unless there's some good reason why you want to wait. J On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org wrote: Lets wait a bit before re-enabling tests, but they seem to act happy, unlike last night. If no one re-enables them, I can do

[chromium-dev] Re: Working on a new feature? Add extensions support.

2009-07-14 Thread Aaron Boodman
We (the core extensions subteam) typically spec all new APIs and send them out for comment to the wider team. This helps keep things consistent and is easier since we are most familiar with the capabilities of the system. - a On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Darin Fisherda...@chromium.org

[chromium-dev] Re: LayoutTest unexpected success

2009-07-14 Thread Amanda Walker
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: I think we should re-enable them ASAP unless there's some good reason why you want to wait. They've been stable and passing all morning, so that works for me. --Amanda

[chromium-dev] Re: Working on a new feature? Add extensions support.

2009-07-14 Thread Erik Kay
I think Aaron's mail makes the point, but just to be clear: before starting coding any new APIs, please send a rough proposal to Aaron and myself. We'll put together an API design based on your proposal and then send it around for broader feedback. Then we'll start looking at the CLs. Our

[chromium-dev] Re: Improving power usage

2009-07-14 Thread Peter Kasting
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Joel Stanley j...@jms.id.au wrote: So we do this for GIFs. Can anyone tell me if background tabs re-paint themselves? If not, I'll add it to the TODO. IIRC renderers don't actually paint until the browser tells them to. Background renderers may set dirty

[chromium-dev] Re: Improving power usage

2009-07-14 Thread Evan Martin
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Peter Kastingpkast...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Joel Stanley j...@jms.id.au wrote: So we do this for GIFs.  Can anyone tell me if background tabs re-paint themselves?  If not, I'll add it to the TODO. IIRC renderers don't actually

[chromium-dev] Re: FYI canvas is hosed

2009-07-14 Thread Peter Kasting
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Dean McNamee de...@chromium.org wrote: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27187 Maybe the spec needs to change? It seems like the patch moved away from spec-compliant behavior to match Gecko. I'm not sure what chromium-dev can do for you on this issue.

[chromium-dev] Re: FYI canvas is hosed

2009-07-14 Thread Dean McNamee
We weren't spec compliant: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html The lineTo(x, y) method must do nothing if the context has no subpaths. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Peter Kastingpkast...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Dean McNamee de...@chromium.org wrote:

[chromium-dev] Re: FYI canvas is hosed

2009-07-14 Thread Peter Kasting
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Dean McNamee de...@chromium.org wrote: We weren't spec compliant: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html The lineTo(x, y) method must do nothing if the context has no subpaths. Isn't that what I just said? That the current behavior doesn't match the

[chromium-dev] Re: FYI canvas is hosed

2009-07-14 Thread Dean McNamee
My point was the behavior before the patch was wrong. What they did now is closer, but still wrong. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Peter Kastingpkast...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Dean McNamee de...@chromium.org wrote: We weren't spec compliant:

[chromium-dev] Javascript scope within PAC files?

2009-07-14 Thread Peter
Can someone explain the scope of javascript calls available within PAC files that chrome parses? What I'm getting at is, can we use the chrome api javascript calls within PAC files? Why would you want/need this? First thought is to determine if the browser is in incognito mode or not, but

[chromium-dev] Re: Javascript scope within PAC files?

2009-07-14 Thread Jim Roskind
I tend to think incognito mode as a personal (and very private) decision. As a result, I'd tend to prefer that it be very difficult to leak such status further than absolutely necessary. Allowing your proxy provider to detect this status seems like a violation of the need to know, but perhaps

[chromium-dev] Re: Javascript scope within PAC files?

2009-07-14 Thread Chris Evans
On Jul 14, 12:23 pm, Jim Roskind j...@chromium.org wrote: I tend to think incognito mode as a personal (and very private) decision.  As a result, I'd tend to prefer that it be very difficult to leak such status further than absolutely necessary. Any web page that wishes can determine if you

[chromium-dev] Re: Javascript scope within PAC files?

2009-07-14 Thread Peter
I guess such a function could be used to 'detect' incognito mode in a forced - PAC environment, ie where the PAC is served by your employer at work. My intention was to devise a way to set an alternate proxy server to use within incognito mode. Developers have opposed adding proxy configuration

[chromium-dev] WebCore.gypi and JavaScriptCore.gypi now online.

2009-07-14 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Dear All, Just a few hours ago, I switched over webkit.gyp to pull the list of WebCore and JavaScriptCore files from upstream-living WebCore/WebCore.gypi and JavaScriptCore/JavaScriptCore.gypi, respectively. This change should alleviate a lot of pain for WebKit gardeners and those landing

[chromium-dev] Re: LayoutTest unexpected success

2009-07-14 Thread Amanda Walker
And as soon as I took them out, they started failing again. We're reverting. --Amanda On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Amanda Walkerama...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: I think we should re-enable them ASAP unless there's some

[chromium-dev] Re: WebCore.gypi and JavaScriptCore.gypi now online.

2009-07-14 Thread Michelangelo De Simone
2009/7/14 Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org: This change should alleviate a lot of pain for WebKit gardeners and those landing two-sided patches. In many cases, this will eliminate the need for two-sided patches. I owe you a beer then!:) -- Gilda Radner - Adopted kids are such a pain

[chromium-dev] Re: LayoutTest unexpected success

2009-07-14 Thread Michael Nordman
I'd leave decisions about the worker related message port tests for drew and dimich... the feature isn't fully functional yet in chrome (even if they don't crash and happen to pass and such). I've been unable to dup the LayoutTests/fast/events/mouseover-mouseout2.html failure locally and have no

[chromium-dev] Re: LayoutTest unexpected success

2009-07-14 Thread Adam Barth
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Michael Nordmanmicha...@google.com wrote: I'd leave decisions about the worker related message port tests for drew and dimich... the feature isn't fully functional yet in chrome (even if they don't crash and happen to pass and such). Seems like we should turn

[chromium-dev] Buildbot performance issue.

2009-07-14 Thread Nicolas Sylvain
Hello, We reached a point where we have too many build slaves and too many users to get good performance/latency out of our current buildbot waterfall and console view page. We've been tweaking the page a lot lately to make it faster to load, but the number of new slaves every day, and the

[chromium-dev] Invitation to collaborate on Metalink and improve downloading the open web

2009-07-14 Thread Ant Bryan
Hi, This is an invitation to people from Chromium and other browser/ download application makers to collaborate on Metalink. Metalink has the potential to improve the usability of the Internet at a large scale, particularly for users in countries with poor Internet connectivity (but also for

[chromium-dev] Re: Buildbot performance issue.

2009-07-14 Thread Evan Martin
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Nicolas Sylvainnsylv...@chromium.org wrote:   The underlying problem with buildbot is the database format, which is just hundred of thousand of files on the harddrive, with no seek capability, and the fact that the webserver itself is single threaded.   We

[chromium-dev] Re: Buildbot performance issue.

2009-07-14 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Nicolas Sylvain nsylv...@chromium.orgwrote: Q3: What kind of auto-refresh do we need? We used to be at 60 secs for a long time, and I changed it a couple of weeks ago to 90 secs. No one complained, so I guess this is good. Should we go even higher than

[chromium-dev] Re: Invitation to collaborate on Metalink and improve downloading the open web

2009-07-14 Thread Evan Martin
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Ant Bryananthonybr...@gmail.com wrote: This is an invitation to people from Chromium and other browser/ download application makers to collaborate on Metalink. This sounds pretty cool, but I suspect you know more about what is needed to make this work than we

[chromium-dev] Re: Buildbot performance issue.

2009-07-14 Thread Paweł Hajdan Jr .
I was just thinking... doesn't it have a reverse proxy in front of it? It could also force content cache time of 60s or even more... Something like Squid or Varnish. Oh, and today morning was probably me scraping the logs. :-( Sorry. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 14:18, Nicolas

[chromium-dev] Re: Buildbot performance issue.

2009-07-14 Thread Scott Hess
If I understand right, simply serving the auto-refresh requests is substantial? At least for the main page, a reverse in accelerator mode could turn that into a constant load. [I'd offer to help, but I don't know what kind of technology we're talking about, here.] -scott On Tue, Jul 14, 2009

[chromium-dev] Re: Javascript scope within PAC files?

2009-07-14 Thread Eric Roman
What I'm getting at is, can we use the chrome api javascript calls within PAC files? The PAC environment does not allow access to any of the chrome extension APIs. Moreover, both incognito requests and non-incognito requests flow through the same PAC script instance, so there is no way to

[chromium-dev] Re: Buildbot performance issue.

2009-07-14 Thread Nicolas Sylvain
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Nicolas Sylvainnsylv...@chromium.org wrote: The underlying problem with buildbot is the database format, which is just hundred of thousand of files on the harddrive, with no seek

[chromium-dev] Re: Buildbot performance issue.

2009-07-14 Thread 王重傑
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Nicolas Sylvain nsylv...@chromium.orgwrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Nicolas Sylvainnsylv...@chromium.org wrote: The underlying problem with buildbot is the database format,

[chromium-dev] Re: Buildbot performance issue.

2009-07-14 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Nicolas Sylvainnsylv...@chromium.org wrote: - Get a better machine. It's already running on a dedicated dual quad core nehalem server   with 24gb of RAM and 15k rpm drives. This is absurdly powerful!  It should have all the data necessary to generate

[chromium-dev] Re: Javascript scope within PAC files?

2009-07-14 Thread Peter Kasting
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Eric Roman ero...@chromium.org wrote: Your suggestion of augmenting the PAC enviroment to expose incognito information could be done, and I am interested to hear more about the use-cases. Incognito isn't designed to hide user details from websites (e.g. by

[chromium-dev] Re: Buildbot performance issue.

2009-07-14 Thread Adam Langley
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Albert J. Wong (王重傑)ajw...@chromium.org wrote: That is pretty nuts.  Is it calling fsync or something crazy?  Since you said strace, I'm assmuming linux. In that case, the buffer cache should be saving you from disk accesses for most everything. Of course,

[chromium-dev] Re: Buildbot performance issue.

2009-07-14 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Nicolas Sylvain nsylv...@chromium.orgwrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Nicolas Sylvainnsylv...@chromium.org wrote: It seems to me a caching layer that only ever hit the backend every

[chromium-dev] Re: WebCore.gypi and JavaScriptCore.gypi now online.

2009-07-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
I think there's enough of us that it'd be cheaper to just buy him a keg together. :-) On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Michelangelo De Simone micde...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/7/14 Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org: This change should alleviate a lot of pain for WebKit gardeners and

[chromium-dev] Re: Buildbot performance issue.

2009-07-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Adam Langley a...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Albert J. Wong (王重傑)ajw...@chromium.org wrote: That is pretty nuts. Is it calling fsync or something crazy? Since you said strace, I'm assmuming linux. In that case, the buffer cache

[chromium-dev] Re: Javascript scope within PAC files?

2009-07-14 Thread Eric Roman
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Peter O'Brienpeter.j.obr...@gmail.com wrote: The PAC environment does not allow access to any of the chrome extension APIs. Thanks for the clarification. Your suggestion of augmenting the PAC enviroment to expose incognito information could be done, and I

[chromium-dev] Re: Buildbot performance issue.

2009-07-14 Thread Mohamed Mansour
I would like to see auto refresh turned off by default. That might help the load. -- Mohamed Mansour On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Nordman micha...@google.comwrote: Turning off auto refresh by default sounds reasonable idea right now... with an option to enable it if really

[chromium-dev] Re: LayoutTest unexpected success

2009-07-14 Thread Drew Wilson
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Drew Wilson atwil...@google.com wrote: I would actually have expected the normal (non-worker) MessagePort tests to pass/not-crash, as I don't think that jam has gotten far enough into the implementation to break the non-cross-process versions :) I have a work

[chromium-dev] Linux developers: you need to read this

2009-07-14 Thread Adam Langley
* If you update your google-chrome-unstable packages and your development builds start hanging, sync to = 20710 * Details: The latest google-chrome packages contain a sandbox binary, which the development builds of chromium will pick up on automatically. However, for safety reasons, the sandbox

[chromium-dev] Re: Linux developers: you need to read this

2009-07-14 Thread Antoine Labour
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Adam Langley a...@chromium.org wrote: * If you update your google-chrome-unstable packages and your development builds start hanging, sync to = 20710 * Details: The latest google-chrome packages contain a sandbox binary, which the development builds of

[chromium-dev] Re: Linux developers: you need to read this

2009-07-14 Thread Adam Langley
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote: Also, will the try bots and build bots run with the sandbox on? No, the build-bots currently run without a sandbox. I agree this should probably be changed and it's on my TODO list. Unfortunately, it's a very long list

[chromium-dev] Re: Linux developers: you need to read this

2009-07-14 Thread Adam Langley
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Antoine Labourpi...@google.com wrote: Does this part need to be sticky, or is it just to build the chrome-devel-sandbox ? If the former it is going to be painful. You only need to build and install it once. AGL

[chromium-dev] Re: Linux developers: you need to read this

2009-07-14 Thread Antoine Labour
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Adam Langley a...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Antoine Labourpi...@google.com wrote: Does this part need to be sticky, or is it just to build the chrome-devel-sandbox ? If the former it is going to be painful. You only need to build

[chromium-dev] Re: Linux developers: you need to read this

2009-07-14 Thread Adam Langley
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Antoine Labourpi...@google.com wrote: I meant the change in common.gpyi. Once I built the chrome-devel-sandbox I can revert that file, right ? Yes. AGL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list:

[chromium-dev] Re: Linux developers: you need to read this

2009-07-14 Thread Joel Stanley
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 02:12, Adam Langleya...@chromium.org wrote:  * build chrome_sandbox I think the defines got messed up somewhere... http://codereview.chromium.org/149667 fixes it for me. Joel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list:

[chromium-dev] Re: LayoutTest unexpected success

2009-07-14 Thread Andrew Scherkus
Right now there's a bunch of unexpected passing media layout tests, but they should start failing again as soon as the WebKit builder bot is clobbered (we're temporarily expecting them to fail until we sort out some issues). Andrew On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Drew Wilson

[chromium-dev] Re: Linux developers: you need to read this

2009-07-14 Thread Adam Langley
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Joel Stanleyj...@jms.id.au wrote: I think the defines got messed up somewhere... Crap, yes. Thanks for that. Fixed. AGL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives,