[chromium-dev] Re: Google Blogoscoped author tries out Chrome app shortcuts

2009-10-07 Thread Philipp Lenssen
For reference, here now is the .reg file that will also work with previously associated files all solved now! Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Classes\.myextension] [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\.myextension]

[chromium-dev] Re: Has anyone built successfully on Win7 64bit? I am getting bash.exe errors

2009-10-07 Thread Marc-Antoine Ruel
For the record, I build on win7 (both x86 and x64) on vs2008 without problem here. M-A On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM, vha14 vuh...@gmail.com wrote: Still having the same issue after following John's suggestions. Being forced to use a separate cygwin's bash.exe. On Oct 2, 12:16 am,

[chromium-dev] Re: buildbot failure in Chromium on Linux Perf, revision 0

2009-10-07 Thread Mr. Buildbot
A fix just got in this morning that will hopefully fix recent buildbot spamming habits. It'll still send emails to chromium-dev@ but only when it's actually closing the tree. There was a mismatch between the rules used to close the tree and the rules used to send an email. I'll let you guess which

[chromium-dev] [Mac] Tab animation improvements under heavy stress

2009-10-07 Thread Mike Pinkerton
I've spent some time banging my head against this issue on Mac where when we open a ton of tabs at the same time (15+, eg, mashing down cmd-t or opening all bookmarks as tabs) it looks janky because the tabs animate independently. As a result, we end up with the surfacing tabs stuck at various

[chromium-dev] Re: How to deal with flaky unit tests

2009-10-07 Thread Nicolas Sylvain
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote: If a test sometimes crashes or hangs, it'll still be disabled, right? Yes. But if it's a ui_tests that crashes chrome.exe (and not ui_tests.exe), we can still mark it as flaky. Nicolas -darin On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at

[chromium-dev] Re: Paper about DRAM error rates

2009-10-07 Thread Peter Kasting
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:49 PM, John Abd-El-Malek j...@chromium.org wrote: It's about getting rid of nasty problems like the browser process crashing every startup because of a corrupt database and decreasing browser process crashes in general. I am pretty sure that the sqlite wrapper and

[chromium-dev] Re: Scalability

2009-10-07 Thread Craig Schlenter
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Craig Schlenter craig.schlen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Jacob Mandelson ja...@mandelson.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:19:49PM +0200, Craig Schlenter wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Craig Schlenter

[chromium-dev] detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Paweł Hajdan Jr .
Just a while before one of my tabs (GMail) started using a lot of CPU time (67% while I was compiling in the background). The browser and the system were responsive at all times, but processing power was wasted. We have a warning dialog for hanged renderers offering to kill them. What do you think

[chromium-dev] UI across multiple platforms

2009-10-07 Thread Ben Goodger (Google)
Because we have different frontend codebases on different platforms, it's important that we strive to maintain feature parity between them. For this reason whenever we implement a modification to the UI in substance (e.g. add a feature, change a behavior) we should make sure to file a bug for the

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Linus Upson
Yes, please! However, I would get that dialog about 1000 times a day: http://crbug.com/22948 Linus On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Paweł Hajdan Jr. phajdan...@chromium.orgwrote: Just a while before one of my tabs (GMail) started using a lot of CPU time (67% while I was compiling in the

[chromium-dev] Re: UI across multiple platforms

2009-10-07 Thread Aaron Boodman
FWIW, on extensions, what we have been finding works is to file separate bugs for each platform's UI implementation. It is just too much code to track with one bug. You end up with these mega bugs that never close. We label each bug OS-whatever the case may be - a On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:01

[chromium-dev] Re: UI across multiple platforms

2009-10-07 Thread Ben Goodger (Google)
That sounds like the best plan to me. This way there can be separate owners. -Ben On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Aaron Boodman a...@chromium.org wrote: FWIW, on extensions, what we have been finding works is to file separate bugs for each platform's UI implementation. It is just too much

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Darin Fisher
maybe instead of a dialog, we can have some kind of a non-modal badness indicator?-darin On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Paweł Hajdan Jr. phajdan...@chromium.orgwrote: Just a while before one of my tabs (GMail) started using a lot of CPU time (67% while I was compiling in the background). The

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Glen Murphy
Something like yes! Maybe not a dialog, as I use things that peg my CPU (games) somewhat frequently. One idea we toyed with was marking such tabs as 'on fire' (icon or color), so at least there was a visual indication. I think this would be a good starting point before anything more obtrusive

[chromium-dev] Re: UI across multiple platforms

2009-10-07 Thread Tony Chang
Also, it would be great if you found someone willing to implement the modification on other platforms if you're not going to do it yourself. This helps to get feedback early from other platforms (where the modification might not make sense) and it makes sure the bug doesn't sit there without an

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
+1 to glowing hot idea! :DG On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Glen Murphy g...@chromium.org wrote: Something like yes! Maybe not a dialog, as I use things that peg my CPU (games) somewhat frequently. One idea we toyed with was marking such tabs as 'on fire' (icon or color), so at least

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Darin Fisher
http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/1afi003r.gif On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Glen Murphy g...@chromium.org wrote: Something like yes! Maybe not a dialog, as I use things that peg my CPU (games) somewhat frequently. One idea we toyed with was marking such tabs as 'on fire' (icon or color), so

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Marc-Antoine Ruel
It's better to be non-animated. Remember,ichrome is using too much CPU already. Second; the user is doing something, he doesn't want to be distracted with information unrelated to his current task. If the user finds himself waiting on his current tab, his eyes will probably see a tab being

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Scott Hess
You could replace the favicon with a spinning clock or something. It might also be interesting to provide indicators for high memory usage (or perhaps if the recent memory growth is high), or IPC issues. Then again, many users might prefer not to have their tabs attracting attention needlessly.

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Evan Martin
We had also discussed putting icons indicating audio into tabs. That sounds crowded with icons, though: imaginably a game could have facicon, Unicode symbols, CPU load, audio, and the x displayed. I worry there just aren't enough pixels to display all the relevant information. On Wed, Oct 7,

[chromium-dev] SVN Stable Tree Path for 3.0.195.25

2009-10-07 Thread Amit Kishnani
Hey Guys, what is difference between these releases 3.0.190.2 3.0.195.25 i can get to SVN source tree to read access for code tree 3.0.190.2 using the following svn repository url http://src.chromium.org/svn/releases/3.0.190.2/src/ i want to make sure i am getting the latest stable source

[chromium-dev] Re: SVN Stable Tree Path for 3.0.195.25

2009-10-07 Thread Elliot Glaysher (Chromium)
The latest source is in trunk, not a specific release branch. -- Elliot On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Amit Kishnani akish...@adobe.com wrote: Hey Guys, what is difference between these releases 3.0.190.2 3.0.195.25 i can get to SVN source tree to read access for code tree 3.0.190.2

[chromium-dev] Re: Kiosk Mode for Chrome

2009-10-07 Thread Rob
Most kiosk applications I have developed never leave their designated pages anyway. There are no 'offsite' links or anything. Thus the content is fully controlled. Downloads would not have to be disabled for me. The only 2 key options I would personally want for a kiosk mode, are fullscreen (not

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Brian Rakowski
I'm not convinced that we should bother users with this kind of stuff. If an advanced user want to see what's consuming resources, they can open the task manager. If we want this for debugging, perhaps it should live behind a flag. It would be cool if some kind combo of dev tools + extensions

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Andrew Scherkus
It'd be nice to have a non-distracting visual indicator, but to play the devil's advocate... What about intentionally CPU intensive sites that use canvas, video, WebGL? What about scenarios where it's a plugin that's gone haywire? Could this be accomplished by an extension that displays a little

[chromium-dev] Re: SVN Stable Tree Path for 3.0.195.25

2009-10-07 Thread Amit Kishnani
Hey Elliot, thanks for quick turnaround. the trunk (svn) : http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/chrome/VERSION is MAJOR=4 MINOR=0 BUILD=222 PATCH=1 but I am looking for stable channel - 3.0.195.125 release instead of dev channel, please let me know if there is svn repository link with that

[chromium-dev] Re: [mac] Chromium Helper + ffmpeg binary location == no video

2009-10-07 Thread Andrew Scherkus
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Albert J. Wong (王重傑) ajw...@chromium.orgwrote: We just noticed that the Chromium Helper.app cannot locate the ffmpeg binaries (libav*.dylib) in Mac Chromium. This leads to the video feature being disabled. :( Where should the ffmpeg binaries go? Should they

[chromium-dev] [mac] Chromium Helper + ffmpeg binary location == no video

2009-10-07 Thread 王重傑
We just noticed that the Chromium Helper.app cannot locate the ffmpeg binaries (libav*.dylib) in Mac Chromium. This leads to the video feature being disabled. :( Where should the ffmpeg binaries go? Should they be put alongside the binary in the Chromium Helper.app/Contents/MacOS? If we do

[chromium-dev] Re: [mac] Chromium Helper + ffmpeg binary location == no video

2009-10-07 Thread 王重傑
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Andrew Scherkus scher...@chromium.orgwrote: On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Albert J. Wong (王重傑) ajw...@chromium.org wrote: We just noticed that the Chromium Helper.app cannot locate the ffmpeg binaries (libav*.dylib) in Mac Chromium. This leads to the

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Charles Reis
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Andrew Scherkus scher...@chromium.orgwrote: It'd be nice to have a non-distracting visual indicator, but to play the devil's advocate... What about intentionally CPU intensive sites that use canvas, video, WebGL? What about scenarios where it's a plugin

[chromium-dev] buildbot failure in Chromium on XP Tests (dbg)(1), revision 28278

2009-10-07 Thread buildbot
Automatically closing tree for unit_tests on XP Tests (dbg)(1) http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/XP%20Tests%20%28dbg%29%281%29/builds/13361 http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/waterfall?builder=XP%20Tests%20%28dbg%29%281%29 --= Automatically closing tree for

[chromium-dev] Re: Why SOCK_SEQPACKET?

2009-10-07 Thread Evan Martin
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Adam Langley a...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Ben Laurie b...@chromium.org wrote: Why will it certainly not work? From what (little) I understand, SOCK_SEQPACKET adds record boundaries to SOCK_STREAM ... presumably one could simulate

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Paweł Hajdan Jr .
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 21:25, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: I could't imagine many users understanding a feature like this much less finding it particularly useful. That's right, an average user would be only confused. Just exposing this info (cpu-hungriness) to extensions seems

[chromium-dev] Re: [mac] Chromium Helper + ffmpeg binary location == no video

2009-10-07 Thread Mark Mentovai
My preference would be to place them inside Chromium Framework.framework, then. If you need to, you can put them inside Chromium Helper.app/Contents/MacOS instead, but I'm trying really hard to minimize the amount of stuff inside the app and the helper app. You can get the framework as a bundle

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Charles Reis
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Charles Reis cr...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Andrew Scherkus scher...@chromium.orgwrote: It'd be nice to have a non-distracting visual indicator, but to

[chromium-dev] Re: SVN Stable Tree Path for 3.0.195.25

2009-10-07 Thread Paweł Hajdan Jr .
(adding people more familiar with the release process...) On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 20:16, Amit Kishnani akish...@adobe.com wrote: Hey Elliot, thanks for quick turnaround. the trunk (svn) : http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/chrome/VERSION is MAJOR=4 MINOR=0 BUILD=222 PATCH=1 but I

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Jeremy Orlow
Pawel, I was responding to the idea of suspending a tab. I agree that exposing this information to extensions wouldn't be too hard and could be quite useful. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Charles Reis cr...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Jeremy Orlow

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Evan Martin
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Charles Reis cr...@google.com wrote: Only power users, which is why I think such a button only belongs in an extension.  (Sorry if that part wasn't clear.) Basically, I tend to have lots of tabs open, but I'm only using a small set at any time.  That means I

[chromium-dev] Re: [mac] Chromium Helper + ffmpeg binary location == no video

2009-10-07 Thread 王重傑
What is @loader_path relative off of? On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Mark Mentovai m...@chromium.org wrote: My preference would be to place them inside Chromium Framework.framework, then. If you need to, you can put them inside Chromium Helper.app/Contents/MacOS instead, but I'm trying

[chromium-dev] Re: [mac] Chromium Helper + ffmpeg binary location == no video

2009-10-07 Thread Thomas Van Lenten
http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/dyld.1.html sorta relative to the thing loading this TVL On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Albert J. Wong (王重傑) ajw...@chromium.orgwrote: What is @loader_path relative off of? On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:35 PM,

[chromium-dev] Re: [mac] Chromium Helper + ffmpeg binary location == no video

2009-10-07 Thread Mark Mentovai
Albert J. Wong wrote: What is @loader_path relative off of? @loader_path is the directory that contains whatever is being loaded. While loading the main executable, @loader_path is equivalent to @executable_path. If your three dylibs refer to one another and are always in the same directory,

[chromium-dev] Re: Local State / Preferences distinction

2009-10-07 Thread Tony Chang
Actually, the original distinction was stuff that could be shared across computers and stuff that couldn't be shared (i.e., local state). I think originally this was for the difference between stuff that a mounted home directory would sync and stuff that wouldn't sync. In practice, I think it's

[chromium-dev] The Great Webkit Comparison Table

2009-10-07 Thread Erik Corry
On quirksmode, sponsored by Google, apparently: http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2009/10/there_is_no_web.html -- Erik Corry, Software Engineer Google Denmark ApS. CVR nr. 28 86 69 84 c/o Philip Partners, 7 Vognmagergade, P.O. Box 2227, DK-1018 Copenhagen K, Denmark.

[chromium-dev] Re: Local State / Preferences distinction

2009-10-07 Thread Brett Wilson
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Tony Chang t...@chromium.org wrote: Actually, the original distinction was stuff that could be shared across computers and stuff that couldn't be shared (i.e., local state).  I think originally this was for the difference between stuff that a mounted home

[chromium-dev] Re: Local State / Preferences distinction

2009-10-07 Thread Tony Chang
The quasi-defunct profile system that uses the enable-udd-profiles still has a separate Local State file and safe browsing databases because it used different user data directory (udd). This change seems orthogonal to the profile system as it is currently implemented. We can resplit the

[chromium-dev] Re: Local State / Preferences distinction

2009-10-07 Thread Brett Wilson
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Tony Chang t...@chromium.org wrote: The quasi-defunct profile system that uses the enable-udd-profiles still has a separate Local State file and safe browsing databases because it used different user data directory (udd). This change seems orthogonal to the

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Layout Tests Task Force status updates 10/6

2009-10-07 Thread Andrew Scherkus
The thing about the media layout tests is ~2 weeks ago all of them were failing. We've flipped switched to get them running and even after disabling a bunch due to flakiness we're still ahead -- just need to keep up the fixes. Andrew On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Peter Kasting

[chromium-dev] buildbot failure in Chromium on Linux Builder (ChromeOS), revision 28326

2009-10-07 Thread buildbot
Automatically closing tree for compile on Linux Builder (ChromeOS) http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Linux%20Builder%20%28ChromeOS%29/builds/4193 http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/waterfall?builder=Linux%20Builder%20%28ChromeOS%29 --= Automatically closing tree

[chromium-dev] Re: detecting tabs using a lot of CPU?

2009-10-07 Thread Finnur Thorarinsson
Umm... shouldn't we be looking into why the tab is taking so much CPU? :) For example, back in April I saw a similar thing happen on Facebook and with WinDbg found that WebKit was simply running in an infinite loop. The WebKit team jumped on this and submitted a fix just 2 days after I reported

[chromium-dev] gclient sync getting stuck

2009-10-07 Thread Nick Baum
I'm trying to run gclient sync, and it seems to get stuck on updating webkit: dhcp-172-31-134-235:Chromium nickbaum$ gclient sync running 'svn update /Users/Shared/Chromium/src-internal' in '/Users/Shared/Chromium' At revision 3449. running 'svn update

[chromium-dev] buildbot failure in Chromium on Mac10.5 Tests, revision 28352

2009-10-07 Thread buildbot
Automatically closing tree for unit_tests on Mac10.5 Tests http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Mac10.5%20Tests/builds/6250 http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/waterfall?builder=Mac10.5%20Tests --= Automatically closing tree for unit_tests on Mac10.5 Tests =--

[chromium-dev] GYP and cross-compiling

2009-10-07 Thread Antoine Labour
If you don't care about gyp or cross-compiling, you can skip this message. I've been experimenting with adding host support for cross-compiling into gyp. By this, I mean being able to use the cross-compiler to build Chrome, but still using the host compiler for build tools. Regular Chrome, with v8

[chromium-dev] buildbot failure in Chromium on Chromium Builder (dbg), revision 28369

2009-10-07 Thread buildbot
Automatically closing tree for compile on Chromium Builder (dbg) http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/builders/Chromium%20Builder%20%28dbg%29/builds/11678 http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/waterfall?builder=Chromium%20Builder%20%28dbg%29 --= Automatically closing tree for

[chromium-dev] Re: GYP and cross-compiling

2009-10-07 Thread Thomas Van Lenten
It seems like another approach would be to use the target types to indicate if the library or executable is for the host or native (ie-add types for host vs. target), then you could use target_conditions to have different flags. TVL On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Antoine Labour

[chromium-dev] How expensive is setting a crash key for breakpad?

2009-10-07 Thread Scott Hess
In fixing a Mac bug, I recently added a layer to intercept -[NSApplication sendAction:to:from:] and make sure a certain message wasn't forwarded if the target was known to be freed. Since this is sort of a core function for event dispatch, now we're seeing crashdumps with my new method on the