Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread xqmen...@hotmail.com
As the application runs on the NTP server machine, time on the machine is thinked accurate. I just can't figure out why synchonizing to itself will make the NTP synchronization status becomes No after several hours. timedatectl output: from NTP synchronized: yes to NTP

Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:59:30PM +0800, xqmen...@hotmail.com wrote: >Is there a way or some configuration to make chronyd client always > successfully synchronize to itself. No, that's an undesired configuration creating a positive feedback loop. The clock would not be stable. --

Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread xqmen...@hotmail.com
My database application runs on this machine and the application can't work with 'NTP synchronization status no'。 If I remove the line 'server 127.0.0.1 iburst', the NTP synchronization status is always no. By the way I check the ntp synchronization status with adjtimex mode 0.

Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread xqmen...@hotmail.com
Is there a way or some configuration to make chronyd client always successfully synchronize to itself. From: Miroslav Lichvar Date: 2020-06-25 22:54 To: chrony-dev Subject: Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:44:29PM +0800,

Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread xqmen...@hotmail.com
So why chronyd can always sucessfully synchronize to other server but it can't always synchronize to itself From: xqmen...@hotmail.com Date: 2020-06-25 23:19 To: chrony-dev Subject: Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock I have a server cluster made of a

[chrony-dev] IPv6 link-local support

2020-06-25 Thread Scott, Nathan
Hi folks, I work on the AWS Time Sync (https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/set-time.html) service. We create a link-local IPv4 address (169.254.169.123) that can be used as a source server for NTP daemons on EC2 instances. The future is IPv6, so we’re evaluating all of the

Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:44:29PM +0800, xqmen...@hotmail.com wrote: >As the application runs on the NTP server machine, time on the machine is > thinked accurate. I just can't figure out why synchonizing to itself will > make >the NTP synchronization status becomes No after several

Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread xqmen...@hotmail.com
I have a server cluster made of a number of machines, and I just choose one from them to be the NTP server. then all other machines synchronize time to the server. My application runs on every machine of the cluster, and the app will not work if it detected 'NTP not synchronized status',

Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread Bill Unruh
Miroslav explained. Because a client's stratum is one higher than the server it gets time from. Since it is getting time from itself, each time it does so, its stratum increases by 1. When it gets to 16 it stops using a server with that high a stratum. Other servers do not keep increasing their

Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:22:00PM +0800, xqmen...@hotmail.com wrote: >My database application runs on this machine and the application can't > work with 'NTP synchronization status no'。 >If I remove the line 'server 127.0.0.1 iburst', the NTP synchronization > status is always no. >

Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread xqmen...@hotmail.com
The machine I started chronyd is as a NTP server to other machine. If the machine don't synchronize to itself, is there a way to make 'NTP synchronize status' always true on the NTP server machine ? From: xqmen...@hotmail.com Date: 2020-06-25 22:22 To: chrony-dev Subject: Re: Re:

Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread Bill Unruh
'NTP synchronization status yes' tells the kernel to copy the system time to the RTC every 11 minutes. It does not simply report that it thinks that the system time is synchronized to NTP. Your author of the database software did not really know what he/she was doing. 'server 127.0.0.1

Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020, xqmen...@hotmail.com wrote:    Is there a way or some configuration to make chronyd client always successfully synchronize to itself. Why? Your database program is designed to only work if the system clock is synchronized to UTC. It seems that you want to break that,

Re: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread Bill Unruh
As mentioned, do you have the option rtcsync in your chrony.conf file? Synchronizing to itself as Miroslav mentioned is not a good idea, as it keeps ratchting up its stratum. Is your server linked to the internet? Ie, do you have outside sources for the time? Of is yours a little isolated

Re: [chrony-dev] [PATCH] nm-dispatcher: handle NTP servers from DHCP

2020-06-25 Thread Robert Fairley
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:19 AM Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:21:29AM -0400, Robert Fairley wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:31 AM Miroslav Lichvar > > wrote: > > > > > > I think it could be a fragment now, and probably everything else > > > except the default

回复: Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread saga m
The 'local' directive is a server feature, not client's, so that won't work. If you have installed adjtimex, you could use it to clear the unsynchronized status periodically with "adjtimex -S 0 -m 0". No need to run an NTP server/client. When will the kernel set the unsychronized status again,

[chrony-dev] [GIT] chrony/chrony.git branch master updated. 4.0-pre2-78-gad69f4f

2020-06-25 Thread git
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[chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread xqmen...@hotmail.com
Hi All, I started chronyd as a client and server, then I try to synchronize to local clock with the following configuration: server 127.0.0.1 iburst allow local stratum 10 driftfile /var/lib/chrony/drift makestep 1.0 -1 rtcsync

Re: [chrony-dev] IPv6 link-local support

2020-06-25 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 01:10:35PM +, Scott, Nathan wrote: > Hi folks, > > I work on the AWS Time Sync > (https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/set-time.html) service. > We create a link-local IPv4 address (169.254.169.123) that can be used as a > source server for NTP

Re: [chrony-dev] Issue about chronyd synchronize to local clock

2020-06-25 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 09:54:56PM +0800, xqmen...@hotmail.com wrote: > Hi All, > > I started chronyd as a client and server, then I try to synchronize > to local clock with the following configuration: > > server 127.0.0.1 iburst Try removing the line above. You don't want the