RE: -EXT-[chrony-users] New system ntp daemon on macOS 10.13

2017-07-25 Thread Parker, Michael D.
HmmmIf I recall timed protocol was used prior to NTP protocol becoming
widely adapted.

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From: Bryan Christianson [mailto:br...@whatroute.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:38 PM
To: chrony-users@chrony.tuxfamily.org
Subject: -EXT-[chrony-users] New system ntp daemon on macOS 10.13

I was just looking through macOS 10.13, wondering why ntpd was not running.
Apple seem to have got rid of it and are now using something called timed.
I don't know anything at all about it, other than its running (I just
enabled it after stopping chronyd) and I think is using the ntpd config
files. There is a man page (posted below). It must have been around for a
while as it was available in iOS 5.0

I guess its either NOT making any adjtime() calls and is exclusively using
ntp_adjtime(), or alternatively, they have deliberately broken adjtime() in
the kernel to match what this timed is expecting. Probably the former rather
than the latter I would hope.


TIMED(8)  BSD System Manager's Manual
TIMED(8)

NAME
 timed -- time synchronization daemon

SYNOPSIS
 timed takes no arguments, and users should not launch it manually.

DESCRIPTION
 timed maintains system clock accuracy by synchronizing the clock with
reference clocks via
 technologies like NTP.  Inputs are merged inside of timed, where it
calculates uncertainty to
 facilitate scheduling proactive time jobs. timed is also aware of
power/battery conditions.

FILES
 /etc/ntp.conf
   NTP server configuration.

 /var/db/timed/com.apple.timed.plist
   The cached state of timed

 /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.timed.plist
   The timed service's property list file for launchd(8).

SEE ALSO
 date(1), settimeofday(2), adjtime(2), gettimeofday(2), launchd(8)

HISTORY
 This timed first appeared in Mac OS X 10.13 and iOS 5.0.


Darwin January 26, 2016
Darwin

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[chrony-users] New system ntp daemon on macOS 10.13

2017-07-25 Thread Bryan Christianson
I was just looking through macOS 10.13, wondering why ntpd was not running. 
Apple seem to have got rid of it and are now using something called timed.
I don't know anything at all about it, other than its running (I just enabled 
it after stopping chronyd) and I think is using the ntpd config files. There is 
a man page (posted below). It must have been around for a while as it was 
available in iOS 5.0

I guess its either NOT making any adjtime() calls and is exclusively using 
ntp_adjtime(), or alternatively, they have deliberately broken adjtime() in the 
kernel to match what this timed is expecting. Probably the former rather than 
the latter I would hope.


TIMED(8)  BSD System Manager's Manual TIMED(8)

NAME
 timed -- time synchronization daemon

SYNOPSIS
 timed takes no arguments, and users should not launch it manually.

DESCRIPTION
 timed maintains system clock accuracy by synchronizing the clock with 
reference clocks via
 technologies like NTP.  Inputs are merged inside of timed, where it 
calculates uncertainty to
 facilitate scheduling proactive time jobs. timed is also aware of 
power/battery conditions.

FILES
 /etc/ntp.conf
   NTP server configuration.

 /var/db/timed/com.apple.timed.plist
   The cached state of timed

 /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.timed.plist
   The timed service's property list file for launchd(8).

SEE ALSO
 date(1), settimeofday(2), adjtime(2), gettimeofday(2), launchd(8)

HISTORY
 This timed first appeared in Mac OS X 10.13 and iOS 5.0.


Darwin January 26, 2016 Darwin

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