Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-15 Thread 'Parker Lee' via ChurchillChat
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Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-15 Thread 'John Mather' via ChurchillChat
orage | Bellevue | Los Angeles | New York | Portland | San Francisco | > Seattle | Shanghai | Washington, D.C. > > From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com [mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com] > On Behalf Of David Riddle > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 4:19 PM > To: churchillchat@

Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-15 Thread 'John Mather' via ChurchillChat
David, While indeed the events of the 1953 stroke were "deep-sixed" at the time as anyone who might check with the papers at the National Archives, Kew, as I have done, could do. It has not been a secret since Lord Moran's book of now 50 years ago on his caring for WSC at this time. Also Lord

Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-14 Thread 'John Mather' via ChurchillChat
No no no. Randolph Churchill was Lord Brain in disguise and Lord Moran forgot his "Ps" & "Qs" with his hidden stethoscope while Anthony Eden was only there in spirit as he was recovery in Boston from serious repeat gallbladder surgery and OMG only one Amazon nurse to lift WSC to prevent

Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-14 Thread Stan A. Orchard
Egads! You mean I've been duped by the Churchill Centre's myth busters!!...and that bounder Randolph!!! I do think that it is always perfectly legitimate to identify the historical errors in a theatrical production in the same way that we would for a revisionist historians subjective rant.

Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-14 Thread Richard M. Langworth
Stan, alas, Churchill *did* authorize the use of troops in the miners strikes, though there were extenuating circumstances. The story forms a chapter in my next book, *Winston Churchill, Myth and Reality: Tall Tales, Lies, Fables, Distortions and Things That Go Bump in the Night *(McFarland,

Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-14 Thread David Riddle
Richard... There is definitely not one currently on public display, but I'll check with the House and Collections Manager to see if there is one in the archives somewhere. David Riddle Mobile: 07966 472340 Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Sep 2016, at 17:20, Richard M. Langworth

Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-14 Thread Richard M. Langworth
David: There is no case of butterflies at Chartwell? Thought I saw one once. Churchill's stroke of 23Jun53 was not fiction, though it's true that dramatizing what went on at C'well in the aftermath, in the absence of witnesses, must of necessity be fictional. There is value in the production,

Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-13 Thread 'John Mather' via ChurchillChat
While I can appreciate a genuine piece of fiction is fiction. Yet when the fiction significantly "garbles" if not specifically "changes" the story line to comply with a preconceived notion of history rather than a reasonable devotion to accuracy then the criticism heaped upon it is most

Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-13 Thread David Riddle
Stan.. I am surprised to hear that the author made any attempt to refer to 'concern for historical accuracy' when referring to a work of fiction. One thing I can reliably comment on, whilst trusting I'm not saying something I shouldn't, is that if a glass case containing butterflies was

Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-13 Thread David Riddle
I think everyone who has commented to date on this film is treating this film far too seriously. It is freely based on a work of fiction 'The Churchill Secret KBO' by Jonathan Smith. The critical word here is 'fiction'. There is no point in trying to relate it to the actual facts of the

Re: [ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-13 Thread 'John Mather' via ChurchillChat
Bravo Cita, Thank you for illuminating a further demonstration in this dastardly drama's gross liberties taken with history and the portrayal of the various personalities. This drama should be accepted as best a romp through one author's imagination rather than any serious attempt to ensure

[ChurchillChat] USA TV Broadcast of Churchill's Secret

2016-09-13 Thread Cita Stelzer
Whether "Churchill's Secret", broadcast in the USA last night, was riveting television I leave to the critics. But that it was historically inaccurate at one important point there is no doubt. Lindsay Duncan's beautifully acted television version of Clemmie as a wife competing with his