[cia-drugs] Re: Is Hezbollah launching Iran's Armageddon? Philadelphia Inquirer.

[muckblit]

The Hezbollah Texas-style Alamo might become Iran's Alamo, on a scale
better called Iran's Armageddon. We certainly heard a lot of US
sabre-rattling and no-win implacable demands like the US made of Saddam
Hussein, leading up to war with Iraq.

Bush raised up a Shiite axis from Pakistan through Iran and Iraq to
Lebanon. Bush put the Shiites and Iranians in control of Iraq.

Shiites represent about half of the people from Lebanon over to
Pakistan. That leads us to the big question, is the plan to break up
OPEC by enfranchising Shiites politically, or to mulch the Shiites in
civil wars that sustain OPEC under Saudi control? The neocons want to
break up OPEC and topple the Saudi monarchy, the Bush-Cheney oilmen have
in the past stuck with the Saudis and OPEC, which means keeping the
Shiites down and preventing Iraq and Iran from pumping oil. That policy
goes back to the formation of Iraq in 1919 and would correspond to
either elevating the Sunnis over the Shiites, or pitting Sunnis and
Shiites against each other in a way that reduces oil production
capability.

The "Shia dogs" will hunt, as you can see with Hezbollah versus the
Israeli master race, but James Baker of Houston, Texas, is the dog
catcher.

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Eco Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>   Iran's Armageddonists fighting the US-supported Armageddonists. See
also:
>   http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/cannabisaction/message/1305
>
>
>   --Start. Please forward widely.
>
>
>   http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/editorial/15193481.htm
>
>
>   Posted on Fri, Aug. 04, 2006
> email this
>   print this
>
>
>   Commentary  Is Hezbollah launching Iran's Armageddon?  By Omar
Fadhil  It's common wisdom to say that the war between Hezbollah and
Israel is a regional struggle that also includes Iran and Syria, who
have supported and supplied Hezbollah. What seems to be less understood
is that this is the first war between the Islamic Republic of Iran and
Israel, via Iran's proxy Hezbollah, and that its overarching purpose is
to advance Iran's ambitions to export the Islamic revolution throughout
the Middle East.
>
>   Thus, while religion has always played an important role in prior
Arab-Israeli wars, this time it has moved to center stage. It is the
theological aspect of this conflict that makes it so explosive and could
lead to its expansion.
>
>   As an observer of the conflict from Iraq, I see the signs that Iran
may be starting to launch the mullahs' version of an Armageddon,
exploiting the religious beliefs of devout Shiites in the region. While
this may sound more the stuff of prophecies than international
relations, it is important to understand - especially in countries such
as Lebanon and Iraq that have large Shiite populations.
>
>   President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran and the Shiite cleric Muqtada
al-Sadr in Iraq are both devout believers in the "Imam" of Shia Islam.
Also known as "Imam Mehdi" - hence the name of Sadr's militia, the Mehdi
Army - he was the 12th grandson of the Prophet Muhammad. According to
certain branches of Shia Islam, the return of the "hidden Imam" must be
prepared by his followers, in a particular sequence of events. Chaos and
rampant violence in the region are supposed to be among signs leading to
the main battle in which the Imam will return to lead Shiites to
victory.
>
>   Whether Ahmadinejad and Sadr personally believe that it is their
duty to prepare the ground for the rise of the Imam, or whether they are
merely exploiting religious mythology for their own political purposes,
Iran and its agents in Iraq are starting to make the connection between
the current conflict and the return of Imam Mehdi.
>   In eastern Baghdad, where Sadr's militias are based, there has been
a sudden appearance of banners and writings on the walls carrying
religious messages that refer specifically to Imam Mehdi. A large number
can be seen near the Interior Ministry complex, home to police forces
loyal to Sadr. And reports are surfacing that Sadr's militia is
recruiting fighters to travel to Lebanon.
>
>   It is not coincidental that these banners appeared within 24 hours
of Hezbollah's kidnapping of the Israeli soldiers. The messages on these
banners, with their unstable mixture of religion and policy, are
ominous, written in a tone that invokes the rise of the Imam. One reads:
"By renouncing sin and by integration for the sake of afterlife, we
become the best soldiers to our leader and savior, the Mehdi."
Integration is one of those words Sadr often uses in reference to
preparations for the afterlife.
>
>   Throughout Islamic history, rulers have used divine texts to
consolidate their power. They did this either by twisting the meaning of
the written texts, or by inventing thousands of alleged sayings of the
prophet. In this case, it looks like the way is being paved for the
"imminent" arrival of the Imam to be announced through the Mumahidoon
(those who pave the way for the I

[cia-drugs] Re: Itching For Answers To A Mystery Condition

[muckblit]

I'm glad Gary Null is telling people what to do for specific biowar
pathogens.

Oregano capsules have been effective against fungal pneumonia or pcp.
Grapefruit seed extract is also good for topical and internal fungus.
Olive leaf extract is dramatically, sensationally effective against pcp,
virus, bacteria. Colloidal silver seems to be for bacteria, possibly
fungus. Again, garlic and elderberry("sambu" products) are great against
viruses, and garlic as well as olive leaf extract for bacteria.

Herpes incurable? No. Slice a garlic clove and rub it on cold sores.
Juice garlic and store it in the freezer in olive oil for use as an
ointment on herpes and cuts and burns and bites(animal or human).

-Bob

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "FONEBONE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Great advice Bob
>  Please allow me to add the following :
> Gary Null   _PHD wrote a fascinating book in 2003 titled
> "Germs,Biological Warfare , and Vaccinations -
> --what you need to know  - "
> that offers proven natural methods to mitigate and cure
> a variety of virulent deadly germs , microbes , viruses etc .
> Cost of the book new was under $15.00
>
> If I began to suffer from some of these symptoms
> I would transform a quart of potable distilled water into a
> quart of colloidal silver on my kitchen table and begin to
> take a tea-spoon of my homemade 10-12 PPM colloidal silver
> solution a tall glass of room temperature spring water every
> few hours through out the day.
> research and experience have demonstrated to me that
> Colloidal silver is completely safe and without side effects-
> especially at these low levels and pathogens cannot evolve to
> become resistant or more virulent over time .
>  I would also drink additional tall glasses of spring water
> to which I would add 10 drops of oregano oil such as " oreganol "
> or even fresh made organic oregano oil
> sold on the internet -
> BTW
> Both the oregano oil and Colloidal Silver solution can also be
> applied directly to my exterior skin so I would also apply these
remedies
> topically for relief-
> Finally - Olive Leaf Extract - usually reserved for my throbbing tooth
ache
> and severe head colds / sore throat episodes would be also pressed
into
> long term usage until my symptoms abate  -
> I think the above listed remedies would be far less deleterious to my
> constitution than other more conventional "cures "  should I ever
manifest
> these "itching " .  Bic ?--Fonebone
>
>  A great war leaves the country with three armies --
> an army of cripples ,
> an army of mourners ,
> and an army of thieves  --German Proverb
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf
> Of muckblit
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 3:49 AM
> To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: Itching For Answers To A Mystery Condition
>
>
>   I have scars on my forearm. I cured myself of the itching and
MS-like
>   symptoms around lesions etc.
>
>   Possibly different things occurring together.
>
>   I felt an itching area and MS-like itching and numbness. At first
>   there was no visible symptom.
>
>   If I experienced the same thing again, I would first use strong
>   non-prescription anti-fungal cream for three days. Then I would move
>   to "black bloodroot salve", with caster oil(any food oil or butter)
>   packs with heat, and/or E and DMSO for the packs to make the salve
>   soak down deep.
>
>   For parasites I would google "regehr parasite" and use the black
>   walnut tincture, artemesia leaves, clove capsules.
>
>   Then see what remains. Fungal conditions usually emanate from the
>   core, so it would be advisable to cultivate intestinal hygiene by
>   minimizing sugar intake, drink clean water, eat fiber(flax?)
>   supplement and acidiphilous("probiotic") supplement, l-glutamine,
and
>   in drastic cases enemas/colonic/colema. This all relates to chronic
>   fatigue and depression and anxiety attacks, and so would vitamin and
>   mineral and trace mineral deficiencies.
>
>   And what would CDC ever do about that? Perhaps advise you to pay for
>   your bread-and-circuses gladiator team locker room to be treated
with
>   permanent antibacterial substance i.e. poison which would not rid
you
>   of the superbug(i.e. "antibiotic resistant staph") but would poison
>   you, perhaps causing MS-like symptoms and AIDS-like conditon. Yes,
>   that would be your CDC shunt to corporate profits. Or you could
bless
>   a psychiatrist or infectious diseases specialist, CDC might say on
>   behalf of their masters.
>
>   -Bob
>







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[cia-drugs] Is Hezbollah launching Iran's Armageddon? Philadelphia Inquirer.

[Eco Man]

   Iran's Armageddonists fighting the US-supported Armageddonists. See also:  http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/cannabisaction/message/1305     --Start. Please forward widely.        http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/editorial/15193481.htm         Posted on Fri, Aug. 04, 2006email this  print thisCommentary  Is Hezbollah launching Iran's Armageddon?  By Omar Fadhil  It's common wisdom to say that the war between Hezbollah and Israel is a regional struggle that also includes Iran and Syria, who have supported and supplied Hezbollah. What seems to be less understood is that this is the first war between the Islamic Republic of Iran and Israel, via Iran's proxy Hezbollah, and that its overarching purpose is to advance Iran's ambitions to export the Islamic revolution throughout the Middle East.     Thus, while religion has always played an important role in prior
 Arab-Israeli wars, this time it has moved to center stage. It is the theological aspect of this conflict that makes it so explosive and could lead to its expansion.     As an observer of the conflict from Iraq, I see the signs that Iran may be starting to launch the mullahs' version of an Armageddon, exploiting the religious beliefs of devout Shiites in the region. While this may sound more the stuff of prophecies than international relations, it is important to understand - especially in countries such as Lebanon and Iraq that have large Shiite populations.     President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran and the Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr in Iraq are both devout believers in the "Imam" of Shia Islam. Also known as "Imam Mehdi" - hence the name of Sadr's militia, the Mehdi Army - he was the 12th grandson of the Prophet Muhammad. According to certain branches of Shia Islam, the return of the "hidden Imam" must be prepared
 by his followers, in a particular sequence of events. Chaos and rampant violence in the region are supposed to be among signs leading to the main battle in which the Imam will return to lead Shiites to victory.     Whether Ahmadinejad and Sadr personally believe that it is their duty to prepare the ground for the rise of the Imam, or whether they are merely exploiting religious mythology for their own political purposes, Iran and its agents in Iraq are starting to make the connection between the current conflict and the return of Imam Mehdi.  In eastern Baghdad, where Sadr's militias are based, there has been a sudden appearance of banners and writings on the walls carrying religious messages that refer specifically to Imam Mehdi. A large number can be seen near the Interior Ministry complex, home to police forces loyal to Sadr. And reports are surfacing that Sadr's militia is recruiting fighters to travel to Lebanon. 
    It is not coincidental that these banners appeared within 24 hours of Hezbollah's kidnapping of the Israeli soldiers. The messages on these banners, with their unstable mixture of religion and policy, are ominous, written in a tone that invokes the rise of the Imam. One reads: "By renouncing sin and by integration for the sake of afterlife, we become the best soldiers to our leader and savior, the Mehdi." Integration is one of those words Sadr often uses in reference to preparations for the afterlife.     Throughout Islamic history, rulers have used divine texts to consolidate their power. They did this either by twisting the meaning of the written texts, or by inventing thousands of alleged sayings of the prophet. In this case, it looks like the way is being paved for the "imminent" arrival of the Imam to be announced through the Mumahidoon (those who pave the way for the Imam), which is how Sadr and his
 followers describe themselves.     In the last quarter of a century, Iran's dreams of exporting the Islamic revolution were stopped by the once strong pan-Arab nationalism in the region. No more. Once the mullahs consolidated their power in Iran through their recent "electoral coup," in which they prohibited close to a thousand candidates from running in the last parliamentary elections and thus eliminated the reformist movement from the political scene, they were able to look outward. Now they are positioning themselves to fill the ideological vacuum left by the demise of pan-Arabist socialist ideologies with Islamic fundamentalism.     Iran's ambitions present a danger not only to Israel, but also to the free world, whose values are fundamentally opposed to those of radical Islamic fundamentalism. It is therefore critical that the West unite behind a clear strategy to thwart Iran's ambitions.  A first step
 is to recognize that Iran's calculations, which may seem irrational, factor in its potential to exploit deep religious feelings and mobilize Shiite followers to fight in Lebanon, Iraq and elsewhere in preparation for the return of the Savior Imam. It is a wily strategy that must be recognized and addressed by the West, lest Iran's Armageddon Day become a self-fulfilling

[cia-drugs] Daily Show. Rapture Watch 2006. Video online. More.

[Eco Man]

   Go to the first web page linked below to see the video. Turn ActiveX on to see it. Or turn your browser security to medium.        http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/20060804_daily_show_rapture         --Check this out too-        http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/terry_jones/2006/08/armageddonists_of_the_world_un.html      guardian.co.uk/commentisfree > Terry
 JonesNice one, George  Those of us who support Armageddon have naturally been greatly cheered by way the US president has embraced our cause.Terry JonesArticlesLatest   Show all   Profile  All Terry Jones articles About Webfeeds    August 4, 2006 09:54 AM | Printable version     Those of us who have long been supporters of Armageddon have naturally been greatly cheered by way the president of the United States has been embracing our cause. Our
 desire to bring chaos, death and destruction to a greater swathe of humanity has, in the past, often been frustrated by peacemakers and do-gooders of all shades of the political spectrum.      For too long, our aspirations have been derided and criticised. In fact, to be blunt, for more than two millennia we have had to put up with opprobrium and vilification, but now all that will be a thing of the past, for in George Bush we have found an ally - indeed, we have found a leader. A man who is prepared to place himself at the head of the forces of destruction and misery, and who is unafraid of the opinion of the rest of the world.     George Bush has finally put Armageddon firmly on the political agenda, and it is likely to stay there for the foreseeable future.     This means that we Armageddonists need keep to the shadows no longer. Bush and his colleagues in the White House have given us
 credibility and respectability. They have made our goal their goal, and death, disease, war and famine are now the most likely fate for more people in the Middle East than we Armageddonists had ever dared to hope for.     What is also particularly gratifying - after this long wait - is that George could not have chosen a better spot on Earth for the "End of Things" to begin, nor a more appropriate agent than Israel to get the ball rolling.     After all "Armageddon" is a Hebrew word. It has come to signify "the end of times" or the arrival of catastrophic events, involving huge loss of life. In its origins, however, Har-Mageddon meant simply "the mountain of Megiddo" - Megiddo being a site in Israel close to the border with Lebanon.     It is certainly a place that has seen a lot of catastrophe in its time. Although there has not
 been a city at Megiddo for over 2,000 years, there are, nevertheless the remains of more than 20 different cities on the site, dating from 3,000 BC. That's an awful lot of human death and destruction.      So it's the perfect place for George to unleash the horsemen of the Apocalypse, and, as Armageddonists, we applaud him. The current assault on Lebanese civilians is sure to swell the ranks of would-be terrorists beyond even our wildest dreams, spreading the violence and mayhem not only throughout the Middle East but into the homelands of America and Britain.      As for the country of Lebanon itself, we Armageddonists predict that, like Iraq, it will sink into a morass of sectarian violence that will fill morgues of the future that have not yet been built. But more than that, we Armegeddonists confidently look forward to chaos and havoc quickly getting out of hand and beyond the control of those who started the
 conflict. It's all part of the fun.So Armageddonists of the world! Let us unite in praise of George Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. Let us thank these men for bringing our dreams of violence and disorder to fruition.      Let us hope that whatever half-baked notions fill what passes for their minds, they will continue on this irreversible path to perdition from which the whole world recoils, but seems powerless to stop.  Digg this | Add it to Del.icio.us | See who is
 linking here  This entry was tagged with the following keywords: unitedstates lebanon israel georgewbush hizbullah armageddon         -end-                These are the same people that caused the USA to have the highest incarceration rate in the world.  With the drug war gone
 mad.           http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/y/forfeit.htm and http://corporatism.tripod.com/forfeit.htm and http://multi19.fortunecity.com/forfeit.htm MMM (Global Million Marijuana March):http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cannabisactionNewsweek, Nov. 14, 2005, page 36:"The most recent evidence comes from autopsies of 44 prisoners who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan in U.S. custody. Most died under circumstances that suggest torture. The reports use words like 'strangulation,' 'asphyxiation' and 'blunt force injuries.' ...  A few months before the [Abu Ghraib] scandal broke [spring 2004], Coalition Provisional 

RE: [cia-drugs] Re: Itching For Answers To A Mystery Condition

[FONEBONE]

 
 
Great advice 
Bob 
 Please allow me 
to add the following :

Gary 
Null   _PHD wrote a fascinating book in 2003 
titled
"Germs,Biological Warfare , and Vaccinations 
-
--what you 
need to know  - "
that offers 
proven natural methods to mitigate and cure 
a variety of 
virulent deadly germs , microbes , viruses etc 
.
Cost of the 
book new was under $15.00
 
If I began 
to suffer from some of these symptoms 
I 
would transform a quart of potable distilled water 
into a 
quart of 
colloidal silver on my 
kitchen table and begin to 
take a 
tea-spoon of my homemade 10-12 PPM colloidal 
silver
solution a tall glass of room 
temperature spring water every 
few hours 
through out the 
day.
research and 
experience have demonstrated to me that
Colloidal 
silver is completely safe and without side effects-
especially 
at these low levels and pathogens cannot evolve to 
become 
resistant or more virulent over time 
.
 I 
would also drink additional tall glasses of spring water 

to which I 
would add 10 drops of oregano oil such as " oreganol 
"  
or even 
fresh made organic oregano oil 
sold on the 
internet -
BTW  

Both the 
oregano oil and Colloidal Silver solution can also be 

applied 
directly to my exterior skin so I would also apply these 
remedies
topically 
for relief-
Finally - 
Olive Leaf Extract - usually reserved for my throbbing tooth ache 

and 
severe head colds / sore throat episodes 
would be also pressed into 
long term 
usage until my symptoms abate  
-
I think the 
above listed remedies would be far less deleterious to my 

constitution 
than other more conventional "cures "  should I ever 
manifest
these 
"itching " .      Bic ?    
--Fonebone
 
 A great war leaves the country with three armies --
an army of cripples ,
an army of mourners , 
and an army of thieves  --German 
Proverb
 
 
 
 -Original 
Message-From: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of muckblitSent: 
Friday, August 04, 2006 3:49 AMTo: 
cia-drugs@yahoogroups.comSubject: [cia-drugs] Re: Itching For Answers 
To A Mystery Condition

  
  I have scars on my forearm. I cured myself of the itching and 
  MS-likesymptoms around lesions etc.Possibly different things 
  occurring together.I felt an itching area and MS-like itching and 
  numbness. At firstthere was no visible symptom.If I experienced 
  the same thing again, I would first use strongnon-prescription anti-fungal 
  cream for three days. Then I would moveto "black bloodroot salve", with 
  caster oil(any food oil or butter)packs with heat, and/or E and DMSO for 
  the packs to make the salvesoak down deep.For parasites I would 
  google "regehr parasite" and use the blackwalnut tincture, artemesia 
  leaves, clove capsules.Then see what remains. Fungal conditions 
  usually emanate from thecore, so it would be advisable to cultivate 
  intestinal hygiene byminimizing sugar intake, drink clean water, eat 
  fiber(flax?)supplement and acidiphilous("probiotic") supplement, 
  l-glutamine, andin drastic cases enemas/colonic/colema. This all 
  relates to chronicfatigue and depression and anxiety attacks, and so would 
  vitamin andmineral and trace mineral deficiencies.And what would 
  CDC ever do about that? Perhaps advise you to pay foryour 
  bread-and-circuses gladiator team locker room to be treated withpermanent 
  antibacterial substance i.e. poison which would not rid youof the 
  superbug(i.e. "antibiotic resistant staph") but would poisonyou, perhaps 
  causing MS-like symptoms and AIDS-like conditon. Yes,that would be your 
  CDC shunt to corporate profits. Or you could blessa psychiatrist or 
  infectious diseases specialist, CDC might say onbehalf of their 
  masters.-Bob
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[cia-drugs] It is the Duty of Every American to Watch this Video!

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From: 
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Watch thisVideo!A True Story About Sex, Child Abuse, Murder and Drugs, 
Covered up ByAuthorities"Conspiracy of Silence", a documentary 
listed for viewing in TV GuideMagazine was to be aired on the Discovery 
Channel, on May 3, 1994.This documentary exposed a network of 
religious leaders and Washingtonpoliticians who flew children to Washington 
D.C. for sex orgies. Manychildren suffered the indignity of wearing nothing 
but their underwearand a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging 
from theirnecks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada 
andToronto, Canada. At the last minute before airing, unknown 
congressmenthreatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if 
thisdocumentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to 
thedocumentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered 
allcopies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished 
anonymouslyto former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who 
made itavailable to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. Gunderson. While the 
videoquality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what 
isrevealed by the participants involved. view video and full page of 
info here:http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id=45 
 
 
 

Updated 
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Too see the entire Video, please click below. And make sure you share this 
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Watch the Entire Video - Please click here or click on Photo 
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Please click on the center arrow in the 
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Download 
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Best Sound Track 
out of the 3 is Here!Or you can watch the film on Google Video at 
the link below!To 
Watch the Entire Video on Google Video hereConspiracy of Silence 
The Documentary "They" Don't Want You to See
By Ted Gunderson Ted 
Gunderson.comOriginal Link:http://educate-yourself.org/tg/tgvideosandbooks1sep02.shtml 
September 1, 2002 
A True Story About Sex, Child Abuse, Murder and Drugs, Covered 
up By Authorities 
“Conspiracy of Silence”, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide 
Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. 

This documentary exposed a network of 
religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington 
D.C. for sex orgies. Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but 
their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from 
their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and 
Toronto, Canada. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen 
threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this 
documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were 
purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of 
this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and 
attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. 
Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster 
in what is revealed by the participants involved. 


Original link for article below from 
VoxFux:http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex_coverup/franklin.htm
The following archive paints a chilling portrait of what is really 
going on in the upper echelons of the ruling elite here in America. The story 
involves children from orphanages in Nebraska being flown around the United 
States by top Republican officials in order to engage in child sex orgies with 
America's ruling elite. It is a fact that during the 1980's, child sexual 
services were provided by top Republican officials to key, bureaucrats and 
diplomats but most importantly, there is a chilling proximity of all of these 
events and personalities, to the President of the United States at the time, 
George H.W. Bush. And there have been victims who claim that the President 
himself engaged in the activities. It is a tale of child sex, murder, espionage, 
blackmail, and huge payoffs. And all the players are involved. From the White 
House to the CIA to the me

[cia-drugs] Fwd: 9/11 Widows: Statement Regarding Pentagon ’s Alleged Deception & 9/11 Commission

[RoadsEnd]

Begin forwarded message:From: "Kyle F. Hence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: August 4, 2006 1:16:20 PM PDTTo: undisclosed-recipients:;Subject: 9/11 Widows: Statement Regarding Pentagon’s Alleged Deception & 9/11 Commission Statement Regarding Pentagon’s Alleged DeceptionAugust 4, 2006==Mandate of the 9/11 CommissionThe 9/11 Independent Commission was established by law to “... ascertain, evaluate, and report on the evidence developed by all relevant governmental agencies regarding the  facts and circumstances surrounding the attacks;...“make a full and complete accounting of the circumstances surrounding the attacks, and the extent of the United States'  preparedness for, and immediate response to, the attacks...”==Recent stories in the Washington Post, the New York Times, as well as the release of the transcripts of the NORAD tapes in Vanity Fair, clearly show that the 9/11 Commission failed in its duties.  According to current reports, the Commission knew that it had been deceived by NORAD.  In May 2003, representatives of NORAD testified, in full regalia, before the 9/11 Commission equipped with an easel and visual aids to highlight NORAD’s timeline for the day of 9/11.  In June 2004, NORAD testified again, changing its previous testimony.  The new timeline blamed the lack of military response on late notification by the FAA.The Commissioners never determined or explained why there was a discrepancy between the two sets of testimonies.  Governor Kean is quoted in the Washington Post article as saying "we, to this day don't know why NORAD told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth ... It's one of those loose ends that never got tied".The fact that the Commission did not see fit to tie up all loose ends in their final report or to hold those who came before them accountable for lying and/or making misleading statements puts into question the veracity of the entire Commission’s report.  Individuals who came before the Commission to testify, after NORAD’s appearance, had no reason to state the truth.  It was abundantly clear that there would be no repercussions for any misrepresentations.Furthermore, the lack of tenacity and curiosity, by the Commissioners themselves, to determine why NORAD had deceived them is unconscionable.  Knowing full well that the lack of military response was such a critical failure, begs the question of whether that same lack of tenacity and curiosity was applied to other critical areas of the 9/11 investigation.We fought to establish the 9/11 Independent Commission because we believed that American citizens would be better served if our nation’s vulnerabilities were uncovered and then fixed. Unfortunately, once again the failure to fully and properly investigate all areas, not follow all leads and not address the need for accountability, whether it be bureaucrats lying at a hearing or personnel with questionable performance of assigned duties, continues to leave this Nation and its citizens vulnerable and at risk.The 9/11 Commission was derelict in its duties.  What we needed from them was a thorough investigation into the events of September 11th.  Inexcusably, five years later, we still do. Patty CasazzaMonica GabrielleMindy KleinbergLorie Van Auken 
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[cia-drugs] Fwd: Anatomy of a troll operation - modus operandi

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Begin forwarded message:From: RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: August 4, 2006 12:17:28 PM PDTTo: ctrl CTRL , [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], political-research@yahoogroups.comCc: RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Anatomy of a troll operation - modus operandi Anatomy of an Internet troll operation - modus operandi Again, we will start off with "Sean" own very authoritative words. spoken like one who knows …From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Subject:Re: [cia-drugs] On Some Recent Weird Goings-on in This List Date:   June 29, 2003 8:42:24 PM PDTTo:   cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com"There is something very important you must understand: the bad guys have been trying to control dissident Internet political forums for years now.  They go about this in several ways. "One way is to start and control a new dissident forum, pretending to be dissidents themselves.  They use their control of the forum to collect sensitive information on dissidents, and to control the direction of discussion on the forum.  Naturally they try to steer discussion away from the areas they most want to hide. "Another method they use is to try to take over existing forums.  If they can't manage to take over the forum, they will often flood the forum with junk in an attempt to destroy the forum. "These guys usually operate in teams of 3 or 4, to give each other backup, and to have the means to gang up on the strongest real dissidents."I have had several major tussles with "Sean" on three of my lists. [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and finally here on [EMAIL PROTECTED] The result of these actions has been that cia-drugs went from a free and rarely moderated list to one that needs both moderation in both membership and posting. [EMAIL PROTECTED] had earlier been attacked by many nazis and was on a 5-post a day moderation (A moderation unavailable at yahoogroups), and amazing spam and virus attacks attacks so that finally we had to go to make employ a method where posters must confirm their posting by visting a link or replying to an email. At the end of each tussle, "Sean" loudly declares the demise of the list. These "events" have always started with a bunch of emotional noise, a flame war between some the more "agitated" posters, tthen I a become the focus, either I am censoring folks or letting folks talk to much, etc. The last brouhaha as June noted included a big "discussion" about circumcision, etc that rose the level of debate and attacks up, getting the forum in the right  mood for  imposition of the controlled dialectic and/or destruction.Zombie Trolls, while claiming superior intellect, debating chops, have selected memory loss.  I contend  "Sean" to be John Foster "Chip" Berlet, a spook. And it would be very advantageous for Berlet to be "Sean." For then Berlet could do his day job, denigrating Sutton and others as wrong, paranoid and crazy, and do his night job collecting all the info on all the little nazis.  I mean Berlet does work with SLPC, you guys heard of them haven't you?Like I said Trolls have amnesia and you know sometimes in different situations the poor trolls have a problem keeping their stories straight, because they are a lie. Even a troll's name is a lie. When you live a real life you have a foundation for your truth.During this latest tussle here is what Sean says about Berlet:Dick Eastman Has Completely Reverted To Nazism   Message #78886 of 82528Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:46 pm On Chip Berlet I am not Chip Berlet.  I have never met or communicated with Chip Berlet.  I have long disliked most of the writings by him I have read, but I have lately been impressed by his (and Andrew Sullivan's) critiques of Christian fundamentalism.---Here is what he said in his very next message:Message #78891 of 82528Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:30 pmRe: [ctrl] On Chip BerletWhat is Berlet up to these days anyways?  I haven't seen one of his essays for over two years now.  I had completely forgotten about him until you mentioned him.  Berlet is not on my list of interesting minds to attend to.  He's mainly a sophistical defender of the status quo.---Here is "Sean" in October 2004 when I first asked if "Sean" was Berlet.A $10,000 Challenge for Kris Millegan   Wed Oct 6, 2004 6:07 pmMessage #7511 of 20669 Thanks for passing along this latest bit of dementia from Millegan -- it's hilarious! For the record: I am not John Foster "Chip" Berlet.  I have never met Berlet.  I have never communicated or had any dealings with Berlet.  I am familiar with some of Berlet's writings, and strongly disagree with him on nearly every issue he addresses.Here is what "Sean" said in 2001 before I ever had any notion that "Sean" may be Berlet.Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Chip Berlet in ContextDate: 11/24/01 2:07 PMReceived: 11/27/01 8:51 AMFrom: Sean McBride, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Doesn't Chip Berlet's Political Research Associates belong to the samepropaganda, intelligence and police network as the ADL, the SouthernPoverty Law Center

[cia-drugs] Fwd: [SPY NEWS] Why is Operation Able Danger such a secret?

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Begin forwarded message:From: "Mario Profaca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: August 4, 2006 1:57:16 AM PDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SPY NEWS] Why is Operation Able Danger  such a secret?Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erielead.org/node/317WHY IS OPERATION ABLE DANGER SUCH A SECRET??Submitted by swiftdon on January 5, 2006 - 5:48pm. After all the contradictory answers, it is clear that the Bush Administration does not want Americans to know about Able Danger. Who can doubt that Al Qaeda and most foreign intelligence agencies know what was going on? The following is what little we know. Who can blame us from drawing troubling inferences?In 1999, the Pentagon Special Operations Command established Able-Danger, a secret program, to gather information on Al Qaeda. In that year, it had identified Mohammed Atta, the architect of 9-11, and three others as members of the cell that attacked the World Trade complex in 1993. .Atta would mastermind the 9-11, and the other three were also among the hijackers. Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, who worked at the DIA, became aware of Atta and his three colleagues in mid-2000. Shaffer informed the FBI of what was known about these four Al Quada operatives. He urged the arrest of Atta, but Pentagon lawyers became involved to prevent the arrest. The lawyers claimed they had problems recommending action against someone holding a green card. But Atta did not have a green card or a valid entry visa. He came to the US three times on a visitor's visa. The Pentagon is now denying that it knew anything about these people before 9-11.When the Kean Commission came into being, Shaffer personally informed its executive director, Dr. Philip Zelikow, about Able-Danger and what was known about Atta and the three other hijackers. Zelikow did not give this information to the commission and did not include it in the document. Zelikow said it was "not historically relevant."1 Zeliknow had been on loan from the White House National Security Office and is now special counsellor to his friend, Secretary of State Rice.Eventually the Army destroyed th4e Able Danger files on Atta claiming this was necessary because he was a "US person" under the meaning of legislation that said the military could only retain intelligence information on US persons for 90 days. In February and March of 2001, Able Danger was shut down by the Defense Department, only to be reactivated later. Shaffer, a Bronze medal winner, lost his security clearance as well as his DIA job. He was forbidden to appear before the Senate Judiciary Committee. However, this decision was later reversed While in Afghanistan, Shaffer told what he knew to Dr. Philip Zelikow, then US ambassador there. Zelikow expressed great interest in the information but avoided seeing Shaffer when the colonel attempted to contact him in Washington. Former FBI director Louis Freeh has used this to sell his book, claiming the Clintons kept him from hunting Al Qaeda. Of course, he is a very partisan Republican and has never explained why three good leads within his agency were quashed or why he did not stand by John O'Neill, the best terrorist hunter we have had to date. Two conclusions are inescapable. (1) There was great reluctance on the part of the Pentagon, under both Clinton and Bush, to act on the knowledge it had about Atta and his three friends.( 2) Now it is clear to all, that it is busy denying it had this knowledge, and it was mightily assisted in this cover-up by the executive director of the 9-11 commission.There was great reluctance on the part of the Pentagon, under both Clinton and Bush, to act on the knowledge it had about Atta and his three friends. Now it is clear to all, that it is busy denying it had this knowledge, and it was mightily assisted in this cover-up by the executive director of the 9-11 commission. Republicans note it was the Clinton Pentagon that failed to act on information about these terrorists. However, it was under Freeh, a very partisan Republican, that the FBI repeatedly failed to act on information that could have been used to stop terrorists. Moreover, it is clear that the FBI had knowledge of the movements of Atta and two others in Venice, Florida before 9-11. What is known is that Atta attended a flight school in Venice. The DEA confiscated and auctioned a private jet owned by one of the owners of the school. The agency found 43 pounds of heroin. No action was ever taken against the Venezuelan pilot or the owner Wally Hilliard. The same jet had made 39 weekly milk runs to Venezuela before the DEA acted. The school's co-owner was Rudi Dekkers, a native of Holland who owed his government $3,000,000. There was a second flight school at that airport owned by another native of Holland, Arne Kruithof. The two Hollanders bought flight schools within months of one another. Dekkers claimed he did not know her, but they both used ascal Schreier, a German, to recruit Arab students.Dekkers said Atta was a terrible person, an

Fwd: [cia-drugs] Military Legal Establishment Resists Total Presidency

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Begin forwarded message:From: "muckblit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: August 4, 2006 2:10:46 AM PDTTo: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.comSubject: [cia-drugs] Military Legal Establishment Resists Total PresidencyReply-To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/02/AR2006080201652.htmlBench Conference, by Andrew CohenIt was the most encouraging news yet to come out of the political and legal debate over the use of military commissions to try terror detainees. There they were in crisp splendor. Uniformed military officers, lawyers, sitting before the Senate Judiciary Committee Wednesday and having the courage and honor to tell the world (and their boss, the Commander-in-Chief) that they do not agree with the political operatives in the White House who keep trying to push forward an unconstitutional, unfair, and short-sighted set of rules governing how these special suspects should get their day in court.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/27/AR2006072701635_pf.htmlOn Prosecuting DetaineesDraft Bill Waives Due Process for Enemy CombatantsBy R. Jeffrey SmithWashington Post Staff WriterFriday, July 28, 2006; A23The Bush administration likes to keep its work under wraps until it's finished, but that proved impossible with a draft bill detailing procedures the administration is considering for bringing to trial those it captures in the war on terrorism, including some stark diversions from regular trial procedures.A copy of the draft, obtained this week by The Washington Post and others, explains how the government would create commissions of U.S. military personnel who could impose a penalty of life imprisonment or death based on evidence never disclosed to the accused. Military judges could also exclude defendants from their trials whenever "necessary to protect the national security."The copy, which is paraphrased below, is marked "For Discussion Purposes Only" and did not reflect the comments of uniformed military lawyers. Those lawyers have privately criticized the Bush administration's policies on detainees, arguing that Washington should set higher standards to ensure that others treat captured U.S. soldiers fairly.Their views are being solicited only now. But even after the administration reaches accord, the trial procedures still must pass a gantlet of senators from both parties who have criticized the administration for mistreating detainees. And the Supreme Court, which last month declared an earlier plan for the trials illegal, may eventually weigh in again if defendants challenge the new "military commissions" and appeal the verdicts.RationaleThe draft states that using the federal courts or existing military court-martial procedures to try suspects in the war on terrorism -- described formally as "alien enemy combatants" -- is "impracticable" because they are committed to destroying the country and abusing its legal processes. Routine trial procedures would not work, it states, because suspects cannot be given access to classified information or tried speedily. Service members involved in collecting evidence cannot be diverted from the battlefield to attend trials, and hearsay evidence from "fellow terrorists" is often needed to establish guilt.Formation of Military CommissionsThe commissions are to be established under existing presidential authorities but appointed by the Secretary of Defense or his designees. The jurors will be any commissioned, active-duty military officers considered qualified because of "age, education, training, experience, length of service, and judicial temperament." The head of each commission will be a military officer with legal credentials.Covered Crimes and PersonsThe draft initially said that only "alien enemy combatants" who are not U.S. citizens can be tried by military commissions. That phrase is crossed off in the text of this copy, and instead it appears to cover anyone "engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners" who violate the laws of war or provisions of this bill.The commissions have jurisdiction over 19 offenses considered violations of the laws of war, ranging from attacking civilians and protected property to using persons and property as shields and torture, maiming, mistreating dead bodies, rape and conspiracy. The commissions also can be used to try those who -- in the context of armed conflict -- hijack vessels or aircraft, destroy property, aid an enemy, or commit acts of terrorism, murder or spying.Trial Procedures"A person charged with an offense under this Act may be tried and punished at any time without limitations," the bill states. Speedy trials are not required. Defendants are entitled to two principal lawyers -- one drawn from U.S. military ranks and a civilian cleared to read materials classified as "Secret."Hearsay information is admissible at the discretion of the military lawyer presiding over the commission, unless circumstances render it unreli

[cia-drugs] Fw: Ted Twietmeyer's critique-Follow up on EM WEAPONS & IRAQ: THE BEGINNING OF HELL ON EARTH

[Arlene Johnson]

On July 28 at 2:37 pm, I posted EM WEAPONS & IRAQ: THE BEGINNING OF HELL ON 
EARTH. Here is what Ted Twietmeyer said subsequent to that.

Peace,

Arlene Johnson
Publisher/Author
http://www.truedemocracy.net
>
>-Forwarded Message-
>>From: leslie o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Jul 29, 2006 3:02 PM
>>To: Arlene Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Ted Twietmeyer's critique
>>
>>Arlene,
>>  Here is Ted's response to the article (below critique). 
>>  Love & hugs, Leslie
>>   
>>  Ted Twietmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>>There are numerous innacuracies in this email. This is rare for me to 
>> write a rebuttal like this, but this is so far off the wall SOMEONE needs to 
>> bring it out. Alex Jones says it well when he tells people "we are in an 
>> infowar." Indeed we are, and both Iraqis and the American people are the 
>> enemy. Those who are not in technology could very easily be persuaded this 
>> is all real and not sleep at night. No one should think that I'm working for 
>> the "other side" because I am not. If I was, I'd write an email supporting 
>> everything said here. My numerous articles posted on rense.com (which I am 
>> not paid any money whatsoever to write) prove where I stand. I am a research 
>> engineer with past, pre-911defense contracts background but am still in 
>> touch with what technology is being developed.
>>   
>>  In what shape was the body of the bus? Was it also sliced up? Heads and 
>> arms severed indicate both X and Y beam movement. To reach the people on the 
>> bus any beam technology would have to pass both through the roof or floor, 
>> and the walls. It's highly unlikely that the people were all sliced up and 
>> then put on the bus. Why was the driver left alive - to tell the tale? Is it 
>> not possible that this is yet another propaganda ploy? Where are the eye 
>> witnesses and photos? Surely in this age where almost everyone has a camera, 
>> even Iraqis, someone would have taken a photo of it and posted it on the 
>> web. And even a photo can't always be believed, either. Computer Photo or 
>> video editing software which was only possible at places like Lucasfilm, are 
>> now commonplace on millions of computers. There are endless pictures of 
>> atrocities from Iraq all the time. Where are these pictures? 
>>   
>>  People in general are naturally horrified whenever they hear about severed 
>> heads. It has a strong psychological component, and brings back into one's 
>> mind the Guillotine. The doctor of the same name was killed on the machine 
>> he invented. It was his reward. But the point of doing this to a bus - is 
>> what again? This stinks like another Langley exercise from one of their 
>> twisted psy-ops groups. I can smell this one cooking 360 miles away from 
>> them.
>>   
>>  Active denial weapons only heat the moisture on the surface of the 
>> everyone's skin. They do not burn it or need to. It is true they are used to 
>> disperse crowds. However, it requires a megawatt of power at a distance to 
>> "flash burn" skin. This requires an almost constant RF energy source. 
>> Physics still applies however, and RF energy falls off with distance. This 
>> is why they are called active denial, non-lethal weapons.
>>   
>>  There are already past stories (and photos from more than a year ago) about 
>> domed weapons on rooftops. Most likely these are simple satellite antennas 
>> for intelligence satellite links. They are about the same size as the 
>> TruckMaster system antennas on tractor trailer cabs used for tracking and 
>> communication. To generate 1GW of energy requires a means to generate it. It 
>> this era of giga-RAM and hundred gigabyte disk drives, people now toss these 
>> numbers around like they mean nothing. But a GIGAWATT is STILL a GIGAWATT. 
>> That 1 BILLION watts of power. Burst RF power levels like that do serious 
>> damage to anything nearby. And microwaves ARE line of sight and travel in a 
>> straight line. They CANNOT pass over the horizon unless something is present 
>> to reflect off of, much like a flashlight striking a mirror. And how is it 
>> again, that the Iraqis don't attack these rooftop antennas? A well-aimed RPG 
>> could easily take one out.
>>   
>>  High powered weapons with lasers use chemicals, not electricity. Laser 
>> technology that uses electricity is about 5% efficient. The remainder of the 
>> pump power for it is wasted as heat.
>>   
>>  And about that plane at Boeing field? It is NOT a weapon. It is called an 
>> AWACS plane, and the dome on top is nothing more than a radar dome. The 
>> technology is now more than 20 years old. How do I know? Because Boeing was 
>> one of my repeat customers back in the 1980s. If you every fly in a  Boeing 
>> plane, all their the black boxes are tested with an ATE switching system I 
>> designed. So are all their engines after all electrical and plumbing lines 
>> are added to them to use them on their planes, at their Everett, WA facility.

Re: [cia-drugs] Palast Pops Peak Oil Fraud

[Arlene Johnson]

See my 19th edition, the one that is all about oil. It's free on my Web site at 
the icon that says MAGAZINE.

It will dispell any ideas that the US and former Soviet Union will war over oil.

Peace,

Arlene Johnson
Publisher/Author
http://www.truedemocracy.net

-Original Message-
>From: muckblit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Aug 4, 2006 9:28 AM
>To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [cia-drugs] Palast Pops Peak Oil Fraud
>
>When Greg Palast began talking in his book, Armed Madhouse, about full
>page and two page Peak Oil scare ads, I thought of Mike Ruppert.
>
>Palast shows a Chevron Peak Oil scare ad, at least an ad in which
>Chevron openly takes credit for funding the ad in order to advertise
>where victims should send their protection money with the hope of
>Chevron being able to protect philanthropists from high energy prices
>in the future.
>
>It seems Hubbert did not say that oil would run out in 2006. He only
>said that cheap to extract oil was not being found fast enough to
>replace easy to extract oil being pumped.
>
>Hubbert pegged difficult to extract heavy oil such as tar sand as
>being sufficient in quantity to replace easy oil. He named
>Iraq("Mesopotamia") and Venezuela, not Canada or Russia I don't think,
>as heavy oil sources sufficient to offset easy oil extraction.
>
>Palast thinks that the reason Hubbert did not simply advise that heavy
>oil resources would offset easy oil extraction was that Hubbert was
>providing an out for Soviet Russia and the US to avoid fighting over
>mideast oil about now. Hubbert proposed that since US and USSR had
>plenty of uranium, they could convert their energy usage from oil to
>nuclear.
>
>But according to Palast, Hubbert did say that heavy oil and gas
>reserves were sufficient for another hundred years or so. Did Mike
>Ruppert mention that in the fine print? People don't pay for fine
>print, so now that Palast's book has taken the fear out of Peak Oil,
>maybe Ruppert's subscriptions are drying up.
>
>Not that Palast is not predicting an economic deluge of biblical
>predictions, because he is. But Palast does not mention gold as a
>sanctuary of value.
>
>Instead of claiming the mantle of FDR as LaRouche does, Palast says
>that the New Deal was a watered down Wall Street and Democratic
>establishment co-optation of Huey Long's program, which meant that it
>was safe to shoot Huey Long and call the clone New Deal, New Frontier,
>and Great Society. But that doesn't mean we should not bemoan the loss
>of New Deal electrical utility regulation(repeal of Public Utility
>Act) and identify the assault on internet neutrality(neutrality
>meaning Verizon and Comcast must not restrict bandwidth for content
>such as IPTV not subscribed from them).
>
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>
>
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>Please let us stay on topic and be civil. 
>
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[cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Anatomy of a troll operation - The Skeleton Key

[norgesen]

I've seen your posts here before Michael.
A quick search brings up these posts by you:


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/35361
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/34894
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/32130
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/32089
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31728
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31689
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31638
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31628
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31344
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31312
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31296
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31280
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31256
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/31235


So, to say you have never been allowed to post here is not true.
Also, if your post doesn't get through for any reason, there is no 
yahoo function that sends it back as "moderated out".

Do you always send posts to this group with the email address that 
you are subscribed with?

Do you check the group online to see if your posts are there?
Maybe your email service is putting your posts into the spam folder.

just a coupla suggestions, since I've heard you say a bunch of times 
here and elsewhere that you never are allowed to post at cia-drugs.

Seems not to be true.

regards,

Norgesen



--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Donovan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


I have belonged to this forum for some time now.  I am never able to 
post.  It always comes back moderated out.  Don't think I was 
ever 'off subject'.
Will try again.
The illicit drugs as control to the point of Colby saying (before he 
was murdered google "Kay Griggs" is based on it being a checking 
mechanism for non use of nuke agreements brokered by my father's 
boss, Henry Luce.
That background information I have put, true story, in the form of a 
play, A Spy In Time.  Go to www.midcoast.com/~michael1 
Scroll down to A Spy In Time.
Michael Donovan
Camden, ME

- Original Message - 
From: RoadsEnd 
To: Cia-drugs Cia-drugs 
Cc: RoadsEnd 
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: [cia-drugs] Fwd: Anatomy of a troll operation - The 
Skeleton Key







Begin forwarded message:


From: RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: August 3, 2006 4:07:13 PM PDT
To: ctrl CTRL , [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anatomy of a troll operation - The Skeleton Key


Anatomy of a troll operation.


The Skeleton Key


In observing spooks for some time. I find that they generally follow 
a script and tend to run operations in similar ways, which leave 
distinctive footsteps. 


In my three or so earlier "tussles" with McBride, we have always 
found "Sean McBride, "the Webfairy and "Dick Eastman" involved. I 
have caught Easttman before in an trolling operation. The yahoo 
archives are starting to go dark, which helps to embolden these 
trolls because without the public archives shining a light on their 
previous actions, the perpetrators … lie, imagine that. 


These same folks were involved in an abortive take-over of CIA-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in May -July 2003, using dissension, two 
forged emails, the death of Brian Quig and a bunch of yahooers. As 
part of this series we will also examine that attack and the other 
snarls.


Here is a list of suspected main players (trolls, dogs and useful 
idiots) in this current troll operation, this information comes from 
the membership activity file and other databases of [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Let us remember what "Sean" posted on CIA-drugs, on June 29, 2003 in 
his response about another "troll op."

"There is something very important you must understand: the bad guys 
have been trying to control dissident Internet political forums for 
years now.  They go about this in several ways.
 
"One way is to start and control a new dissident forum, pretending 
to be dissidents themselves.  They use their control of the forum to 
collect sensitive information on dissidents, and to control the 
direction of discussion on the forum.  Naturally they try to steer 
discussion away from the areas they most want to hide.
 
"Another method they use is to try to take over existing forums.  If 
they can't manage to take over the forum, they will often flood the 
forum with junk in an attempt to destroy the forum.
 
"These guys usually operate in teams of 3 or 4, to give each other 
backup, and to have the means to gang up on the strongest real 
dissidents."


As of now you will notice they are in the "destroy" mode.


Slandering me, etc. posting screeds, swearing, shouting, etc.


And this current action by zionistexposer is part and parcel. Notice 
the meme included in the posters handle applying the controlled 
dialectic. I am not nor have ever been a Zionist , a Zionist 
supporter or sympathizer. And believe the whole dialectic does a 
disservice.

[cia-drugs] Military Legal Establishment Resists Total Presidency

[muckblit]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/02/AR2006080201652.htmlBench Conference, by Andrew CohenIt was the most encouraging news yet to come out of the political and
legal debate over the use of military commissions to try terror
detainees. There they were in crisp splendor. Uniformed military
officers, lawyers, sitting before the Senate Judiciary Committee
Wednesday and having the courage and honor to tell the world (and their
boss, the Commander-in-Chief) that they do not agree
with the political operatives in the White House who keep trying to
push forward an unconstitutional, unfair, and short-sighted set of
rules governing how these special suspects should get their day in
court.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/27/AR2006072701635_pf.htmlOn Prosecuting DetaineesDraft Bill Waives Due Process for Enemy CombatantsBy R. Jeffrey SmithWashington Post Staff WriterFriday, July 28, 2006; A23The
Bush administration likes to keep its work under wraps until it's
finished, but that proved impossible with a draft bill detailing
procedures the administration is considering for bringing to trial
those it captures in the war on terrorism, including some stark
diversions from regular trial procedures.A copy of the draft,
obtained this week by The Washington Post and others, explains how the
government would create commissions of U.S. military personnel who
could impose a penalty of life imprisonment or death based on evidence
never disclosed to the accused. Military judges could also exclude
defendants from their trials whenever "necessary to protect the
national security."The copy, which is paraphrased below, is
marked "For Discussion Purposes Only" and did not reflect the comments
of uniformed military lawyers. Those lawyers have privately criticized
the Bush administration's policies on detainees, arguing that
Washington should set higher standards to ensure that others treat
captured U.S. soldiers fairly.Their views are being solicited
only now. But even after the administration reaches accord, the trial
procedures still must pass a gantlet of senators from both parties who
have criticized the administration for mistreating detainees. And the
Supreme Court, which last month declared an earlier plan for the trials
illegal, may eventually weigh in again if defendants challenge the new
"military commissions" and appeal the verdicts.RationaleThe
draft states that using the federal courts or existing military
court-martial procedures to try suspects in the war on terrorism --
described formally as "alien enemy combatants" -- is "impracticable"
because they are committed to destroying the country and abusing its
legal processes. Routine trial procedures would not work, it states,
because suspects cannot be given access to classified information or
tried speedily. Service members involved in collecting evidence cannot
be diverted from the battlefield to attend trials, and hearsay evidence
from "fellow terrorists" is often needed to establish guilt.Formation of Military CommissionsThe
commissions are to be established under existing presidential
authorities but appointed by the Secretary of Defense or his designees.
The jurors will be any commissioned, active-duty military officers
considered qualified because of "age, education, training, experience,
length of service, and judicial temperament." The head of each
commission will be a military officer with legal credentials.Covered Crimes and PersonsThe
draft initially said that only "alien enemy combatants" who are not
U.S. citizens can be tried by military commissions. That phrase is
crossed off in the text of this copy, and instead it appears to cover
anyone "engaged in hostilities against the United States or its
coalition partners" who violate the laws of war or provisions of this
bill.The commissions have jurisdiction over 19 offenses
considered violations of the laws of war, ranging from attacking
civilians and protected property to using persons and property as
shields and torture, maiming, mistreating dead bodies, rape and
conspiracy. The commissions also can be used to try those who -- in the
context of armed conflict -- hijack vessels or aircraft, destroy
property, aid an enemy, or commit acts of terrorism, murder or spying.Trial Procedures"A
person charged with an offense under this Act may be tried and punished
at any time without limitations," the bill states. Speedy trials are
not required. Defendants are entitled to two principal lawyers -- one
drawn from U.S. military ranks and a civilian cleared to read materials
classified as "Secret."Hearsay information is admissible at the
discretion of the military lawyer presiding over the commission, unless
circumstances render it unreliable or unnecessary. That lawyer can
close the proceedings to protect any information that might "cause
identifiable damage to the public interest" or endanger participants or
national security interests. The lawyer can also order "ex

[cia-drugs] Palast Pops Sean McBride Fraud

[muckblit]

In his book Armed Madhouse, Greg Palast posits a contest between daddy
Bush "Kissinger realist" crew and baby Bush neocons, just as Sean
McBride does.

The difference is that Palast is not laying out the false hope that
Kissinger Amoral Realists are going to save us from Semitic Fantacist
Idealogues.

Sean puts a gloss on the Kissinger Realists, as if their avaricious
amorality is really just untainted academic objectivity and civic
minded disinterestedness. Just trust the CFR, they're only self-made
academics and the most experienced padres and cadres this side of an
artificially narrow horizon.

Unfortunately there have been four generations of double-dealing
warmongers named Bush, not two, father and son, dialectically
differentiated as white hat academic-objective realists and black hat
semitic, or useless zionit, unilateralist fantacist idealogues. If we
bring Sam Bush and his son Prescott Bush into historical view, we see
that the left hand of Rockefeller is only playing Goebbels to
advertise the right hand of Rockefeller.

Palast does not wax poetic about the Bush-Saudi unilateralist elitists
saving us from the Likudnik unilateralists. Sean is hard-selling a
false hope in that dialectic, but Palast shows us that the old oil and
war elitists are pitiless predators prosecuting classwar without
restraint.

You won't have any trouble identifying neocons in left-hand of
Rockefeller think tanks advertising for Bush Warco. Try Failed States,
edited by Francis Fukayama. Then check out Fukayama's America At The
Crossroads, in which he says he's no longer a neocon. He's now on the
other side of the dialectic, saving us. Expect conversions from Bush
and Cheney, maybe even Bremer of Kissinger-McLarty. That's the
"Crossroads", a dialectic which on one level means Kissinger Realists
as reformers saving us from the excesses and mistakes of neocon
patsies. Kris and I've been expecting that, and said so all along.
Told ya so.

There is a "Crossroads", a dialectical contest, and it's not safe. A
Shiite axis from Lebanon to Iran has been empowered through US
meddling in Iraq. Neocons and Saudis both have a plan for the Shiite axis.

The Saudi monarchy financed the president's father's man James Baker's
oil think tank to develop a Kissinger Realist, amoral elitist
OPEC-friendly plan corresponding to the neocon's PNAC. Greg Palast
gives us a program for the contest by explaining many of the
differences between the oilmen's plan and the neocon plan, PNAC.

Sam, Prescott, George Herbert Walker and George Walker Bush, four
generations of Bush Warco, have all used the neocons as foils. The
neocons have never won yet. Neocons lead us into war, and take the
blame on the way out, every single time. Otherwise Prescott would have
been hung at Nuremburg, or as his son said,"If the American people
knew what we(Bush fam) were doing, they would chase us down the street
and lynch(Nuremburg) us".

At the Vietnam war's pied piper, neocon columnist Joe Alsop's, dinner
roundtable, you would find every nazi's friend, Allen Dulles,
representing Prescott Bush. Iraq occupation czar and erstwhile
idealogical unilateralist fantacist neocon Paul Bremer worked for
Kissinger, of the non-idealogical "realists". Expect Bush and Cheney
to have had even less of a conversion to Trotsky and Strauss.





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[cia-drugs] Re: Itching For Answers To A Mystery Condition

[muckblit]

I have scars on my forearm. I cured myself of the itching and MS-like
symptoms around lesions etc.

Possibly different things occurring together.

I felt an itching area and MS-like itching and numbness. At first
there was no visible symptom.

If I experienced the same thing again, I would first use strong
non-prescription anti-fungal cream for three days. Then I would move
to "black bloodroot salve", with caster oil(any food oil or butter)
packs with heat, and/or E and DMSO for the packs to make the salve
soak down deep.

For parasites I would google "regehr parasite" and use the black
walnut tincture, artemesia leaves, clove capsules.

Then see what remains. Fungal conditions usually emanate from the
core, so it would be advisable to cultivate intestinal hygiene by
minimizing sugar intake, drink clean water, eat fiber(flax?)
supplement and acidiphilous("probiotic") supplement, l-glutamine, and
in drastic cases enemas/colonic/colema. This all relates to chronic
fatigue and depression and anxiety attacks, and so would vitamin and
mineral and trace mineral deficiencies.

And what would CDC ever do about that? Perhaps advise you to pay for
your bread-and-circuses gladiator team locker room to be treated with
permanent antibacterial substance i.e. poison which would not rid you
of the superbug(i.e. "antibiotic resistant staph") but would poison
you, perhaps causing MS-like symptoms and AIDS-like conditon. Yes,
that would be your CDC shunt to corporate profits. Or you could bless
a psychiatrist or infectious diseases specialist, CDC might say on
behalf of their masters.

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[cia-drugs] Palast Pops Peak Oil Fraud

[muckblit]

When Greg Palast began talking in his book, Armed Madhouse, about full
page and two page Peak Oil scare ads, I thought of Mike Ruppert.

Palast shows a Chevron Peak Oil scare ad, at least an ad in which
Chevron openly takes credit for funding the ad in order to advertise
where victims should send their protection money with the hope of
Chevron being able to protect philanthropists from high energy prices
in the future.

It seems Hubbert did not say that oil would run out in 2006. He only
said that cheap to extract oil was not being found fast enough to
replace easy to extract oil being pumped.

Hubbert pegged difficult to extract heavy oil such as tar sand as
being sufficient in quantity to replace easy oil. He named
Iraq("Mesopotamia") and Venezuela, not Canada or Russia I don't think,
as heavy oil sources sufficient to offset easy oil extraction.

Palast thinks that the reason Hubbert did not simply advise that heavy
oil resources would offset easy oil extraction was that Hubbert was
providing an out for Soviet Russia and the US to avoid fighting over
mideast oil about now. Hubbert proposed that since US and USSR had
plenty of uranium, they could convert their energy usage from oil to
nuclear.

But according to Palast, Hubbert did say that heavy oil and gas
reserves were sufficient for another hundred years or so. Did Mike
Ruppert mention that in the fine print? People don't pay for fine
print, so now that Palast's book has taken the fear out of Peak Oil,
maybe Ruppert's subscriptions are drying up.

Not that Palast is not predicting an economic deluge of biblical
predictions, because he is. But Palast does not mention gold as a
sanctuary of value.

Instead of claiming the mantle of FDR as LaRouche does, Palast says
that the New Deal was a watered down Wall Street and Democratic
establishment co-optation of Huey Long's program, which meant that it
was safe to shoot Huey Long and call the clone New Deal, New Frontier,
and Great Society. But that doesn't mean we should not bemoan the loss
of New Deal electrical utility regulation(repeal of Public Utility
Act) and identify the assault on internet neutrality(neutrality
meaning Verizon and Comcast must not restrict bandwidth for content
such as IPTV not subscribed from them).





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