All OK, for me. Thanks you.
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To add the explanation of the new keys and equalize the presentation
to what was done for ChromaKey-HSV, I updated the manual for the
ChromaKey plugin. You just need to replace the entry in Latex.
\subsection{Chroma Key}%
\label{sub:chroma_key}
\index{chroma key}
This effect erases pixels which
I tried to start CinGG (ffmpeg7) in wayland. During startup I get this error:
BC_DisplayInfo::gl_fb_config failed
Error I don't have in Xorg. However, everything works normally. I've
tried both X11 and X11-OpenGL driver, but I don't notice any
difference.
As a test I put in the chroma-key plugin
I compiled with ffmpeg 7 and patched for multi-bit. I also did a
12-bit rendering with x265. All OK.
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> ... I believe that Andrea uses it frequently also with no new reported issues.
Since you provided the patches I have always used CinGG compiled with
ffmpeg 7. I have not found any problems. I have done rendering,
background rendering and batch rendering without any problems. I have
not done
In the DaVinci Resolve manual (starting on page 425) the way they use
for sync is explained. This might be a cue on how to do it in CinGG,
but I don't actually know how to do it. It's not just a matter of not
knowing how to write code: I don't even intuit how to do it at the
idea level, at the
> What you describe below, why not approach this from an EDL perspective?
> Don't materialise it into new content just as 'clips'?
And here I'm already getting lost. Do you mean that you can do
everything inside CinGG?
I don't know how to program, and my (stupid) attempts are nothing more
than
> So it builds a linear timeline?
No, just duplicate sources but with the external audio embedded and
synchronized. A little like the transcode function that asks you to
hide the original media leaving only the newly transcoded.
1- collect the files into one folder (video files with internal
> I don't even want to do things manually, if I have a choice ;)
I have tried several times to create a script for ffmpeg that would
automate the A/V sync, but I do not have the skills. See:
https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=448
> So you mean that you would have an extern audio
Some time ago there was talk about OpenTimelineIO, but I can no longer
find the reference.
What I was thinking of, was to use Audio Offset Finder to see the gap
between files and then manually impose a timecode on each asset via
the appropriate "set timecode" button. At this point you can use your
A nice command-line tool that reads the offset between two audio
tracks, thus allowing them to be manually synchronized.
Unfortunately it is made with Python, but I was wondering if it is
possible to import it into "i" shell commands, so as to provide sync
information of the various assets. It has
With the new, beautiful, configuration window, we need to change the
image in the manual.
chroma-key-hsv.tar.gz
Description: application/gzip
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I would prefer tò remove the references tò Compositore, It serms tò me that
It leads tò more confusione.
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I'm sorry Phyllis but I explained the Compositor thing wrong. I meant
that a fourth item, that is, using the tools in the Compositing window
during editing, could affect the result of the render file. Instead it
does not: all operations in the Compositor window do not affect the
render, only the
> P.S. Someone indicated that ChromakeyHSV had some kind of bug, but I was
> wondering if Andrea ever found out exactly what that was? since it looks OK
> to me.
>
Great job; thank you!
One problem with the plugin can be seen in the following video:
https://streamable.com/yyze7y
In practice,
A problem with registration via HotMail was posted on the forum.
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I wrote a short introduction for chapter 7 of the manual, the one with
the rendering options. I am not sure it is necessary so I am
attaching, in addition to the latex version, a txt version. Judge
whether it should be included. In this case it should be put at the
beginning, as the first
I put the patch for vaapi, but I don't notice any change in decoding.
There are no warnings in the terminal but the GPU does not affect the
decoding.
I used CinGG compiled, not the appimage.
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With the new mjpegtools 2.2.1 the compile happens without errors.
Thanks Andrew, you are always helpful.
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> sounds like upgraded gcc started to misunderstand some old code? what version
> of gcc you have?
gcc 14.1.1+r1+g43b730b9134-2
The fact that it has all those numbers indicates that it is a
particular version, perhaps not yet stable.
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Since I don't quite understand what to do, is it possible to have a
patch to compile?
PS: is it possible to do something similar with vulkan?
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I changed the description present in the av1_svt.webm preset. The
previous one referred to the av1.webm codec.
av1_svt.mkv
Description: video/matroska
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I think there is a problem with server moderation of IgorV.
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Da: Igor Vladimirsky
Date: mar 30 apr 2024 alle ore 20:20
Subject: [cinelerra-cv-team] About copy-pasting from CV Manual to CGG Manual
To:
Each of my messages to the Cin-GG ML is moderated.
This is why I have opened this thread here and restoring the
@igor_ubuntu (Igor Vladimirsky)
See if the changes made to the manual sound good to you.
https://git.cinelerra-gg.org/git/?p=goodguy/cin-manual-latex.git;a=commitdiff;h=8da3ca92772da956388bb055696a8b564bd1212f
If that doesn't work for you, try writing something yourself (plain
text is fine) and
More than Ubuntu Studio I recommend AV Linux from "our" Glen. And more
than Audacity I recommend
Ardour... (but even better: GarageBand, it is MacOS native)
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uch and CinGG's version
> has a problem, I am not sure if this is correct in our case: "It uses the
> same algorithm as the Gimp selection tools. It works best with computer
> generated graphics." Anyway to test this and verify in a case where it
> does work?
>
> On Mo
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Your patch doesn't seem to work: the message still appears that
'libdav1d does not support
vaap'i. You can't see any load on the GPU. It is the same starting CinGG with
“CIN_HW_DEV=vaapi” than without.
I have tried various appimages:
- kdenlive has the option for GPU disabled (I think I need to
I am responding here because the title is more appropriate than in the
other thread.
> you can simply comment out line "remap_video_decoder libaom-av1=libdav1d" in
ffmpeg/decode.opts
Yes, hardware decoding with libaom works. There are no messages on the
terminal. The GPU
is only 8-21% busy but
Trying to open the html manual directly from the website, I no longer get to the
cover and context menu, but I get to our repository list files. See video:
https://streamable.com/o4dryf
This has been happening for a couple of weeks.
I don't know if it's my fault and the endless ad-blockers I use
> Interesting, so av1 does not decode in hw in our case ... something to
> investigate, but I have no relevant hardware ...
It seems that Dav1d is developed by VLC together with ffmpeg. They say
it is software only
and does not uses any GPU acceleration:
I use system monitor from KDE.
I tried loading into CinGG an 8k video; 60 fps; AV1
(supported by vaapi) and mkv. I ran the playback, but I do not detect
GPU utilization.
The GPU load varies from 0 to 10%, but these are normal variations
that are repeated even
with GPU at rest. The CPU has a load
> I assume attached tar archive then only about TEST1 ?
?
In test 1 I used a VP8/mov source without audio [4-3_3-2.mov] combined with an
mp3/wav audio and in addition the render result [igor_test3.webm]:
VP9/webm with audio
Vorbis (webm.webm preset). [I didn't notice that the wav audio was
mp3,
> hm, so hw decoding of vp9 does not work? Only on this version or on previous
> ffmpeg 6.1 based cingg too?
TEST 1
I directly loaded the project containing both the sources and the
render (VP9). The two CinGGs are configured similarly, decoding with vaapi.
TEST2
Second test regarding decoding
> well, this is even with my latest patch?
Sorry for the late response. Below is what
is written in the terminal from loading the media in timeline, then
the render and finally
the subsequent loading of the render to timeline:
file:/home/paz/test/4-3_3-2.mov
err: Invalid argument
Trying to repeat Igor's test, with CinGG compiled with ffmpeg7, I find
the render audio clean and without scratches. I remember that I use
Arch, which has all updated drivers and libraries. On the terminal I
read:
file:/home/paz/igor_test.webm
err: Invalid data found when processing input
I don't understand how the channel map works. Anyway I post you the image
showing on the left the sources and on the right a render:
https://postimg.cc/Bj9GrFyc
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> But then can you try ffmpeg 7 with and without patch just in case it only
> affects ffmpeg 7.0?
Still the same result.
General
Complete name: opus_test_ffmpeg7_no_patch.webm
Format : WebM
Format version :
Same result with a cut made by me. I got the various files from:
https://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/AC3/
Broadway-5.1-48khz-448kbit.ac3
Canyon-5.1-48khz-448kbit.ac3
monsters_inc_2.0_192.ac3
TomorrowNeverDies-2.1-48khz-192kbit.ac3
There are no video tracks, I only rendered the audio.
General
> Can you also post output of mediainfo for both cases?
Here it is.
NO PATCH:
General
Complete name: opus_test_no_patch.webm
Format : WebM
Format version : Version 4
File size:
Test with CinGG-20240229-x86_64-multibit.AppImage (no patch):
https://streamable.com/r4r150
test with compile version with ffmpeg7 and patch:
https://streamable.com/rd9sz0
With only 4 audio channels:
[libopus @ 0x75d44803b100] Invalid channel layout 4.0 for specified
mapping family -1.
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OK, with a very clear image I can see the dark spots.
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Yes, I also remember the noisy audio. I don't remember the details
well. However, with your patch everything is OK, even with flac
(which, I seem to remember, suffered from the same problem; only opus
worked fine). In my tests I always try to use the default profiles.
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AgingTv seems to work fine for me. The settings are maintained. The
slider at 0 gives no effect and increasing it works well. The check
button works well.
Two of my notes:
1- Grain is too pronounced. In my opinion there should be a slider for
"Grain" as well so that it can be modulated.
2- I
I don't remember the Vorbis problem very well. I ran renders of:
Ogg/Vorbis; ffmpeg/Ogg (vorbis); ffmpeg/Ogg (flac); ffmpeg/webm
(vorbis); ffmpeg/mkv (vorbis) and ffmpeg/mkv (flac). In all cases the
sound was clean and correct.
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You are right. You can't see it by applying Title to the same track as
the purple background, but by putting Title in an empty upper track
the problem is still there.
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> Can you try attached patch ?
It seems to me that the patch works. I used Camille's original video
where you can see the title fade from black to transparent and finally
to white as it should be.
I superimposed my own title on top of it ( on top) where instead the
fade always remains white.
The
I am not the best one to evaluate sound, since I am deaf in one ear,
which precludes me from sound spatiality.
For me, comparison between Andrew's patches and without patches is
simple. In the second case only a strong pulsating signal can be
heard. In the first case you can hear well, including
The crash was my fault.
With a new compilation all the f_audio plugins I tried work.
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The ffmpeg audio plugins still do not work. Even deleting .bcast5 they
still do not work.
Now, however, the Pulse Audio driver is working.
I then tried a new compilation with git clone but I can't install the
005- patch anymore and the compilation crashes. I don't know if the
crash is related to
As usual, I get a little confused about patches and how to put them on
top of others.
Can you clarify for me which patches to put and how to put them?
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I also find ChrmaKeyHSV's window too narrow. I like IgorB's proposal very much.
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Complete failure with ffmpeg audio filters.
One premise, setting the audio driver to "pulse" the audio does not
work. Setting it to "alsa" works normally. I do not have Pulseaudio in
my system, but Pipewire takes pulse signals as if it were there. In
ffmpeg6 I do not have
Sorry. The right Word Is anamorphic.
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I am continuing to use the version compiled with ffmpeg7 and have
found no bugs or other problems. Even the efficiency of playback and
some rendering are comparable with the previous version. All OK, for
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I am reading the Cin-CV manual with IgorV's updates.
(https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commits/master/doc).
Based on these I have made the first minor adjustments to Windows.tex.
Later I will post some major updates in the other chapters.
Windows.tar.gz
Description:
Sometimes I think it is my old projects or even not my own that cause
some problems. For example to test ChromaKeyHSV I created my own
project, but I also used two projects of IgorV. I could never see
precise cause and effect though, so I'm not sure.
Regarding AC3, there is a commit in Adam's
I also tried several appimages and always AlphaOffset did not work.
After deleting ".bcast5" instead the slider works in both appimage and
compiled CinGG. So I would say it's all OK, it is definitely not a
ffmpeg 7 problem. I would say it is my problem that I often do the
tests without renewing
In CinGG compiled with ffmpeg7 I find "strange" behavior that I do not
encounter with appimage (which has ffmpeg6).
Using a greenscreen image, as the top track and any
media as the background track, we need to apply the ChromaKey HSV
plugin. We can see that the "Alpha Offset" slider does not
Yes, "bd.m2ts" was created and it works. It is always my stupidity
that I did not realize that CinGG always terminates automatically, at
the end of bd-render, if there is no burner and db-disk. I apologize,
as always.
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Hi,
I simply commented out that line and now everything works fine. Is it
possible to remove it permanently? I couldn't find any \substitutefont
entries in the code, so there are no substitutions to be made with
\DeclareFontFamilySubstitution. Am I wrong?
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I updated the latex manual with a "git pull" and now it no longer
produces the pdf for me. I get the error:
packages.tex Error 10: File `substitutefont.sty' not found. \usepackage
In packages.tex I have, from line 9 to line 15:
9 \usepackage{substitutefont} % so we can use fonts other than
As usual, I got it wrong...
"This is not for syncing audio and video on the timeline. This is for
calibrating and configuring the operation of the program and audio
driver." (IgorV)
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I made a new compilation with Andrew's 5 patches and putting in /src
the tarball of ffmpeg 7 plus patches3, patch 4 and patchD. All OK.
The BD render still does not create the video, even with a media with
only 2 audio tracks. I think it is my fault that I have never done
BD/DVD and don't know how
The manual entry "Audio Offset," which was taken from Adam's manual,
"Secrets of Cinelerra," provides an excellent method for synchronizing
a video track with an audio track. It has been a long time since I
read it and I want to bring it to your attention again:
Yes, thank you. I read the manual on the new ChromaKey hsv.
As for the compilation, I am not very good at it. Some time ago I had
tried CinCV just because it was present in Arch's AUR. CinHV I tried
to install it unsuccessfully and have not tried again. CinCVE I have
never tried
PS: Your
I tried taking the ChromaKeyHSV binary of CinHV and substituting it
for that of CinGG. However, the program crashes at startup.
I guess that's not the way to do it :)
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Compilation with all the patches went well. I loaded a m2ts file with
many audio channels and tried (from root) to do a BD render. I left
all settings at default. At the end of the render I got a crash (no
dump).
In the terminal I have these lines:
FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times
>> I tried to cp thirdparty/src/ffmpeg-6.1.patch10 as ffmpeg-7.0.patch10 and
>> compilation currently progressed beyond this error.
Success! Thank you very much, Andrew.
I saw that in this edition there are few filters. In CinGG there is
only "tiltandshift" filter; it does not give error but it
> you mean
> echo "system_libs += -L/usr/pkg/lib/ffmpeg6"
> echo "CFLAGS += -I/usr/pkg/include/ffmpeg6"
> ?
> those are for NetBSD
>
Yes, I meant those. didn't know they were for BSD.
In the log it talks about a cuda error; maybe it tries to activate
even on my system that doesn't have cuda?
How to compile CinGG with ffmpeg7?
Should I remove ffmpeg5.1 and ffmpeg6.1 and all their patches and then
add the tarball of ffmpeg7 plus your new patch?
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In an exchange of mails Igor Vladimirsky pointed out to me that the
old bug reported by Camille:
https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2021-March/003149.html
and:
https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=559
Has been fixed by Adam in CinHV. The patch with the fix is at:
I agree. I only reported the new because it was curious, not because I
wanted to replace the images from the manual.
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Curious news:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/03/playboy-image-from-1972-gets-ban-from-ieee-computer-journals/
We used the Lady in the OpenCV filter section of the manual.
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In other emails, Igor Vladimirsky identified the commit after which
the alpha slider is no longer functional:
https://git.cinelerra-gg.org/git/?p=goodguy/history.git;a=commit;h=259e435484d99cf6517290f530ac2d9d0d86cd16
If anyone can figure out where the problem lies, they are welcome.
Perhaps in
This looks more interesting than termux, but I guess it takes Android
tablets with better hardware:
https://vectras.netlify.app/
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An interesting question from the forum:
https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/forum/everything-else/how-to-automate-the-cutting-of-a-project-by-timecode/#post-2700
Do you think it is possible to build a script that teaches how to make
automatic cuts in CinGG?
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I have added the tip to the manual; see if it is okay. I also attach a
txt file for those who want to correct or improve the tip.
To be put at the end of section 3.2:
A tip on how to eliminate Letterbox/Pillarbox black bands in the Set
Format window can be found here:
AVX2 and Machine Learning in the new release of Opus audio codec:
https://opus-codec.org/
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Actually in the case of my png image, the "Resize track" step is not
necessary, but it is always better to have the project format the same
as the track format in Timeline, especially if you are using multiple
clips.
Note: "Set Format" and "Resize track" cause a crop, which is necessary
in your
I think the work can also be done in CinGG.
When you have distortions it is because the format of the project does
not match the format of the track on the timeline or the format of the
asset; in our case the track is considered. I created in inkscape an
image with a 4:3 format and the dimensions
I tried to update the text of Blur plugin in the manual. See if it is
okay (to be added at the end):
Problems may arise, with old projects or with
Cinelerra-CV/Cinelerra-HV projects, regarding the parameter
\textit{alpha determines radius}. However, to avoid problems, it was
hidden in the GUI's
NB: Completely agree with Andrew's conclusion about apes! (quote from
"planet of the apes" trilogy?)
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To me the story was even more odd.
When I uploaded IgorV's project, it was completely out of whack. I
tried various settings with the same result. When I did the reset the
situation improved but the horizontal slider still did not work. Using
values other than 0 brought the background to black as
You are right: CinGG is very feature rich and can also use the ffmpeg
plugins. Plus I also tested the other native blur plugins (linera
blur, radial blur, etc) and they all work normally with Chroma Key
(HSV). It is the only Blur plugin that interacts with Chroma Key
giving problems.
PS: I don't
What is the problem with Chroma Key (HSV)? I can't find the original discussion.
It seems to me that CinGG has problems when dealing with the alpha
channel, so in overlays, Keys, etc.
See also here (without taking offense at the jibes he throws toward
CinGG users):
Igor Vladimirsky also made a good video tutorial on how Chroma key
(HSV) plugin works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QATi9J6Q8uw
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> Thanks for the link. I tried to change the text in the manual, see if
> that's okay.
>
> I also changed the paragraph in Color 3 Way plugin about HDR.
> I didn't change the HDR entries of the overlays and Histogram;
> Phyllis, tell me if I should remove them from there as well.
@Phyllis Smith
A curiosity: looking at the commit on git
(https://git.cinelerra-gg.org/git/?p=goodguy/cin-manual-latex.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb7369e6b5f670d1b1ebaffa08f3c2e4bb053a61)
we find "\r" at each end of the line. Is this due to the fact that I
use texstudio? This has never happened before...
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>> Just now, in comparing the results with the alternative views in the manual,
>> the PorterDuff matches what I see.
You are right. I had forgotten how PorteDuff works. Sorry.
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>From this forum thread:
https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/forum/help-video/problem-with-colour3way/
After the patch to make Color3way work in float, even with values
above the range (0 - 1.0f), this problem occurs:
"If I move the Shadows Value slider to the left, by the time it
reaches 0.006 the
Impossible with AMD graphics! :-)
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It seems that with the latest kernel 6.7.3 the problems with my AMD
graphics card are solved. Now DVR works with both ROCm and Rusticl
(just use "RUSTICL_ENABLE=radeonsi"). The performance between the two
OpenCLs seems similar to me.
In contrast, for those using Blender, rusticl is not implemented
There is a request in the forum for an explanation of a warning
window. Is anyone able to understand the problem?
https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/forum/forum-miscellaneous/opengl-texture-limit-0/#post-2628
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Thanks for the script, but I don't quite understand how to use it!
If you are not in a hurry I am waiting to prepare a small video to put
privately in the Youtube channel (reachable only from the link in the
guide). I hope that with the video everything will be clearer than my
confusing
Arch has python 3.11.6
Build OK, LV2 plugins work without any problems.
With an appimage without patches, all LV2 plugins tried do not work
and give errors.
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I tried installing rusticl (but without uninstalling rocm), but to no
effect. DVR won't start, Blender crashes if using Hip, and LibreOffice
freezes if you try to use OpenCL!
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