Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-23 Thread Andrea paz via Cin
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Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 23.01.2024 21:13, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 23.01.2024 18:35, skrev Andrea paz via Cin: I did the following test: NOTE: I use SAR as pixel aspect ratio i.e. SAR= Sample aspect ratio. I use PAR as frame aspect ratio i.e. PAR= Picture aspect ratio. I use PAR=W/H. I took the following

Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-23 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 11:58 PM Phyllis Smith wrote: > > For inclusion in the Manual based on Andrew's work is the text below. Let me > know if it needs changes. > Note, that I did not find the following exception. I tested audio at 8K and > 80K with no problem. >> >> ALSO, IMPORTANT! Audio

Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-23 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 11:58 PM Phyllis Smith wrote: > > For inclusion in the Manual based on Andrew's work is the text below. Let me > know if it needs changes. > Note, that I did not find the following exception. I tested audio at 8K and > 80K with no problem. Are you sure you saw no

Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-23 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
ср, 24 янв. 2024 г., 02:30 Phyllis Smith : > Andrew, > >> >> Are you sure you saw no problem when resulting mpg?VOB was loaded back >> into cingg? I think wrongly-sampled >> pcm audio will just change its length .. :( >> > That is what I found so different from you, but maybe my cases were too >

Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-23 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
For inclusion in the Manual based on Andrew's work is the text below. Let me know if it needs changes. Note, that I did not find the following exception. I tested audio at 8K and 80K with no problem. > ALSO, IMPORTANT! Audio must be 48Khz or 96Khz, nothing else is > supported, even by ffmpeg's

Re: [Cin] Manual documentation for 1 Audio Shortcut is either wrong or confusing?

2024-01-23 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
вт, 23 янв. 2024 г., 21:06 Phyllis Smith via Cin : > There is a shortcut documented in the Manual, that seems to be incorrect > and is certainly confusing shown last in Bold below. > > Audio > > Attach Trans. --- Open audio transition select for insert at edit > boundary. > Attach Effect. --

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-23 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
> > Source_3: > 5sec_hdv01_04.m2t.ts; 1440x1080; SAR 4:3; DAR 16:9 > Compositor: Correct display; rectangular px. > > Just curious here: > Why and where did you get the extra file extension .ts? > Sony's extension for hdv has been .m2t, when hdv was transfered via i.LINK > (IEEE 1394) from tape to

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 23.01.2024 22:01, skrev Phyllis Smith: Source_3: 5sec_hdv01_04.m2t.ts; 1440x1080; SAR 4:3; DAR 16:9 Compositor: Correct display; rectangular px. Just curious here: Why and where did you get the extra file extension .ts? Sony's extension for hdv has been .m2t,

Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-23 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
> When this text has passed the last revision, let me know that I will > put it in latex in the manual. > OK, thank you Andrea! One correction already is to add the second line below that is in Bold letters. 3) In the Create DVD window, accept the defaults or select different values > and then

Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-23 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
Andrew, > > Are you sure you saw no problem when resulting mpg?VOB was loaded back > into cingg? I think wrongly-sampled > pcm audio will just change its length .. :( > That is what I found so different from you, but maybe my cases were too simple. I will find some different cases to test, but I

Re: [Cin] BD creation aspect 16:9 fixes?

2024-01-23 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
> > Just tested BD Render with Einhander's latest CinGG built: Jan 19 2024 > 22:51:47 > The first question is if this "BD creation aspect 16:9 fixes" is included > here or not? > Yes, they should be as the 16:9 fixes were checked into GIT on 18 January so they would be included in Andrey's 19

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 23.01.2024 18:35, skrev Andrea paz via Cin: I did the following test: NOTE: I use SAR as pixel aspect ratio i.e. SAR= Sample aspect ratio. I use PAR as frame aspect ratio i.e. PAR= Picture aspect ratio. I use PAR=W/H. I took the following 4 videos: Source_1: bd.m2ts; 1440x1080; SAR 1:1;

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-23 Thread Andrea paz via Cin
Source_1 (and 4) I made them with "BD Render" according to Phyllis' instructions in a previous post. Here is the result from ffprobe: $ ffprobe -hide_banner bd.m2ts Input #0, mpegts, from 'bd.m2ts': Duration: 00:01:06.91, start: 0.074667, bitrate: 10242 kb/s Program 1 Stream #0:0[0x1011]:

Re: [Cin] BD creation aspect 16:9 fixes?

2024-01-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 16.01.2024 08:04, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: I tried to edit in place ff_options before batchrender job was created. It seems to work but need real (on real hardware player + TV) testing ... Just tested BD Render with Einhander's latest CinGG built: Jan 19 2024 22:51:47 The first

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-23 Thread Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
Den 23.01.2024 22:22, skrev Andrea paz: Source_1 (and 4) I made them with "BD Render" according to Phyllis' instructions in a previous post. Here is the result from ffprobe: $ ffprobe -hide_banner bd.m2ts Input #0, mpegts, from 'bd.m2ts': Duration: 00:01:06.91, start: 0.074667, bitrate:

Re: [Cin] Procedure for making LPCM DVD

2024-01-23 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
The confusion is I did NOT use video input of type DV, but rather mp4 and mpeg. So I need to clarify the suggested procedure to stipulate it is for creating DVDs from user video rather than DV video. I will now test on DV video and make appropriate changes in the document. >>> Are you sure you

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-23 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
Terje, then, is the problem only the AV1.webm container/codec? IgorBeg Il 22/01/2024 21:43, Terje J. Hanssen via Cin wrote: No, I loaded a single 16:9 SD-DV file or a single 1080i HDV file and rendered them to AV1.webm The file(s) were stored and displayed with various SAR or DAR aspect

Re: [Cin] DAR, PAR and SAR, again

2024-01-23 Thread Andrea paz via Cin
I did the following test: NOTE: I use SAR as pixel aspect ratio i.e. SAR= Sample aspect ratio. I use PAR as frame aspect ratio i.e. PAR= Picture aspect ratio. I use PAR=W/H. I took the following 4 videos: Source_1: bd.m2ts; 1440x1080; SAR 1:1; DAR 4:3 Compositor: Display stretched vertically;

[Cin] Manual documentation for 1 Audio Shortcut is either wrong or confusing?

2024-01-23 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
There is a shortcut documented in the Manual, that seems to be incorrect and is certainly confusing shown last in Bold below. Audio Attach Trans. --- Open audio transition select for insert at edit boundary. Attach Effect. -- Open audio selection menu for insert at edit boundary. *Render