Re: [Cin] some problems - batch rendering warnings and opening project error, steps to have cinelerraGG officially in Gentoo
@Deim (and All) About (sub)Project, Nesting sequences, if you have time, can you try a simply test following at screencast, please? Probably it do not solve your problem, but may be. "cin20190831_NestingSequencesInAMasterProject" https://streamable.com/en6d4 @Phyllis/GG (and All) About nesting sequences and Proxy, can you look at the screencast, please? "cin20190831_NestingSequencesInAMasterProject_andProxy" https://streamable.com/3dsbz Thanks! IgorBeg -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] some problems - batch rendering warnings and opening project error, steps to have cinelerraGG officially in Gentoo
Deim: 1 small update as I try to catch up here: I think it would be better to build only production versions from git > i.e. if somewhere was some info about what build is last production > > A "tag" has been added to git with the name of "2019-08" and comment of "version update". We will be adding the Year-Month tag on the monthly builds from now on. You can see the example below: https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/git/?p=goodguy/cinelerra.git;a=summary description Cinelerra-GG last change Sat, 31 Aug 2019 13:14:36 -0600 (13:14 -0600) shortlog 2 days ago Good Guy version update master 2019-08 commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz tar.bz2 zip) 2 days ago Good Guy upgrade vpx to 1.8.1, rm meson prereq and add dav1d... commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz tar.bz2 zip) 5 days ago Good Guy fix render progress booby, add batchrender warn for... commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz tar.bz2 zip) ... 2019-07-19 Good Guy update igors icons, x/y contraint for xlate commit | commitdiff | tree | snapshot (tar.gz tar.bz2 zip) ... *tags* 2 days ago *2019-08* *version update tag* | commit | shortlog | log heads 2 days ago master -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] some problems - batch rendering warnings and opening project error, steps to have cinelerraGG officially in Gentoo
> some projects had cursor at end. > It may be good to have warning about this - something like "Your cursor > isn't at start of project". > OK, gg will be adding a warning before the next builds and I will include it in the manual too. A warning has been added and checked into GIT so will be available in the next builds. Hopefully, this will avoid future users being flummoxed by this problem. A warning box popups that is scrollable and will look similar to the following: 3 job EDLs begin position beyond end of media 1: /tmp/test.xml 2: /tmp/test.xml 3: /tmp/test.xml press cancel to abandon batch render (IgorB: even though this warning may not be necessary, it is helpful to me for sure). Phyllis/GG -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] some problems - batch rendering warnings and opening project error, steps to have cinelerraGG officially in Gentoo
I think it doesn't help to add a warning "Your cursor isn't at start of project". Deim, I write a fast/short answer to you. Sorry. The complete answer about "Batch rendering" is in the Manual: "To create a Cinelerra project file which can be used in batch render, set up a Cinelerra project and define the region to be rendered either by highlighting it, setting in/out points around it, or positioning the insertion point before it." IgorBeg Il 13/08/2019 21.28, Phyllis Smith ha scritto: some projects had cursor at end. It may be good to have warning about this - something like "Your cursor isn't at start of project". OK, gg will be adding a warning before the next builds and I will include it in the manual too. -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] some problems - batch rendering warnings and opening project error, steps to have cinelerraGG officially in Gentoo
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 9:04 AM Shawn Michaels wrote: > Seems Batch Render doesn't work for me at all :-( > When I press start it only selects line which is enabled but does not turn > red as usual. > There is no output on console during this and no output file is created. > Hmmm, there are so many possible pitfalls, but it works for me. Things to check: 1) in the Batch Render window, do you see the line "Batches to render: $HOME/.bcast5/batchrender.rc" - check that file to see if it looks reasonable as far as ownership and modification date. 2) instead of starting cinelerra from the icon app, if you start it from the # prompt in a window, do you see any messages (I do not think there will be any output on the console if you started from an icon). Maybe you already did this, but I can not tell. When it does something, you will see: Render::render_single: Session finished. ** rendered 1 frames in 0.289 secs, 3.460 fps 3) as a test, create a file that has the same name as the name of the Output on that job so that you can at least see if it comes up with the error message "The following files exit. Overwrite them?" -- that way you can at least see if the job tries to start. 4) which distro are you using? I use Fedora and it works for me, but I can test on a different distro. 5) if none of this helps find the problem, maybe send a jpg of the Batch Render window so I can see if there is anything unusual about your setup. -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] some problems - batch rendering warnings and opening project error, steps to have cinelerraGG officially in Gentoo
Seems Batch Render doesn't work for me at all :-( When I press start it only selects line which is enabled but does not turn red as usual. There is no output on console during this and no output file is created. On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 2:24 AM Phyllis Smith wrote: > Deim: > > Hi, few days back I was with my low-end laptop Acer TravelMate B116-M on >> film camp where we helped children to took videos and then we cut them >> to final short films. I had weakest device on camp, but must say it >> worked quite well. I tested hw acceleration as it was announced here and >> it was quite stable > > Interesting, thanks for sharing this! > > >> - laptop has Intel CPU and GPU so I used vaapi and >> h264_vaapi profile to speed up rendering. I tried to encode from 5 Mbps >> to 20 Mbps and noticed the few first frames of this hw encoded videos >> was quite low quality then it was better but lot of movement was lower >> quality also. >> > "According to an online wiki, hardware encoders usually create output of > lower quality than some > software encoders like x264, but are much faster and use less CPU." --- > it seems that the hardware acceleration is useful for initial > rendering/checking but for quality purposes, the slower software rendering > may be better for a final video. I see no technical reason why the first > frames would be of lower quality so I will ask GoodGuy if he has an > explanation and I will run a test on a vaapi-enabled laptop here. > > Then I loaded all saved parts to project as resources - it loaded saved >> parts as clips and all assets to resources. Then I pasted clips on >> timeline of final video and made final cut. Then I saved final project. >> Closed Cinelerra then I was unable to reopen saved project - it only >> showed one of clips on timeline :-( >> > This is of major concern, although there have been no similar reports of > "unable to reopen saved project", as you never want to lose work. If you > still have the errant project file, GoodGuy would really like to see it to > maybe determine a problem (you can send it to me at > phylsmith2...@gmail.com to keep it private or which ever way works for > you). > >> >> I then wanted to run jobs but it warned about mismatch of session/job so >> I must render separate :-( >> I rendered by jobs before without problems the same way. So I don't know >> what the problem was. >> > This error message creates some confusion -- in lots of cases, it is best > to uncheck "warn if jobs/session mismatch". So I suggest leave this box > unchecked in your case. The "warn if mismatch" checks the timeline and the > batch job to see if the user changed something on the timeline and forgot > to re-save and thus the changes would be loss - so it is a valuable test. > But with multiple jobs, it is probably always a mismatch. A lot of things > have changed in Cinelerra, so it is possible that it worked for you before > but a redraw or something working a little differently than before may now > result in a mismatch. > >> >> I'm using git versions - I work on Gentoo and I'd be happy to have >> official ebuild for this. I made first steps for that: >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/691102 > > I did look at this. That would be great! > > I think it would be better to build only production versions from git >> i.e. if somewhere was some info about what build is last production it >> could be somehow in ebuild to decide to build stable or latest git >> version. >> > We do builds on the last day of each month (currently, but the last day of > the month for us in Colorado may actually be the first day of the month in > Europe) and we consider this to be a stable release. If you look at the > following URL and see the comment as "*version update*" that is > considered a release: > https://git.cinelerra-gg.org/git/?p=goodguy/cinelerra.git;a=summary > However, it may be too much to do a Gentoo build every month - perhaps > every 6 months is more reasonable. > > -- > Cin mailing list > Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org > https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin > -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
[Cin] some problems - batch rendering warnings and opening project error, steps to have cinelerraGG officially in Gentoo
Hi, few days back I was with my low-end laptop Acer TravelMate B116-M on film camp where we helped children to took videos and then we cut them to final short films. I had weakest device on camp, but must say it worked quite well. I tested hw acceleration as it was announced here and it was quite stable - laptop has Intel CPU and GPU so I used vaapi and h264_vaapi profile to speed up rendering. I tried to encode from 5 Mbps to 20 Mbps and noticed the few first frames of this hw encoded videos was quite low quality then it was better but lot of movement was lower quality also. I had problems also with this method of work: - load assets for part of video - cut everything for this part on timeline - save project - repeat for each part Then I loaded all saved parts to project as resources - it loaded saved parts as clips and all assets to resources. Then I pasted clips on timeline of final video and made final cut. Then I saved final project. Closed Cinelerra then I was unable to reopen saved project - it only showed one of clips on timeline :-( So I decided to export only parts and concatenate exported videos. The method was this: - load part - create new batch job (use current EDL button) - set output path and codecs I then wanted to run jobs but it warned about mismatch of session/job so I must render separate :-( I rendered by jobs before without problems the same way. So I don't know what the problem was. I'm using git versions - I work on Gentoo and I'd be happy to have official ebuild for this. I made first steps for that: https://bugs.gentoo.org/691102 I think it would be better to build only production versions from git i.e. if somewhere was some info about what build is last production it could be somehow in ebuild to decide to build stable or latest git version. deim -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
