Re: [c-nsp] VTY Lines

2009-04-22 Thread Jens Link
Justin Shore jus...@justinshore.com writes: While my installs may not be perfect, they are far better than average. I don't need someone second-guessing my work with a tool like RAT. Agreed. But (IIRC) you can write your own rules for RAT. Combine this with rancid and you have a great way

[c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Nick Griffin
Does anyone know if you can use or even would want to use a GSS appliance without an ACE Module or Appliance? I like the idea of having data center redundancy/global site selection, however I'm not so sure the load balancing features of the ACE appliance are yet a requirement for a particular

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Justin C Darby
Nick, The primary benefit to these things, AFAIK, is the ACE integration for load balancing. I'm pretty sure there are other options (mostly software) available to do the same DNS load balancing without ACE's, but - ACE's are a great way to add redundancy to a site, and GSS+ACE can handle load

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Nick Griffin
So say I had 2 datacenter locations geographically disperse and I'm not running BGP. I have similar web and smtp servers at each locations. I'm not so much concerned that traffic gets load balanced to a cluster of servers when traffic enters a particular data center (which is an ACE application),

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Eric Gauthier
We're interested in the same sort of question. In our case, we have server groups who already handle local load balancing internally within their clusters. My group, the network team, wants to provide load balancing and automatic failover of traffic between our two campus data centers but we

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Nick Griffin
Right, my question was does it require ACE appliance or modules to work? I have the need for Global Site Selection, however I don't I need the application level load balancing at this point that is offered by the ACE. Also, are there any ties to particular vendor DNS servers, ie CNR? Gracias,

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Apr 22, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Eric Gauthier wrote: We're interested in the same sort of question. You can play all kinds of DNS games with GSS based upon load (via probes), perceived topological distance, up/down status, et. al. It has some DNS DoS self-defense mechanisms built in,

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread James Slepicka
You can use the GSS without an ACE (or CSS, or IOS-SLB...). You'll be limited to the basic keepalive checks (icmp ping, http head, etc.) to detect site availability; you won't be able to make load-based decisions, for example, but it will otherwise work fine. I just use the http head check

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:10 PM, Nick Griffin wrote: Right, my question was does it require ACE appliance or modules to work? No, can work independently, no problem. Also, are there any ties to particular vendor DNS servers, ie CNR? It can hook into CNR, and is also its own DNS server

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Nick Griffin
Great, thanks to all. So am I to assume if I have X Data Centers, I need 1xX GSS's for redundancy? In other words if I had 2 sites and one GSS and the GSS is at the site that lost internet connectivity, its not going to do me much good. TIA On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Roland Dobbins

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Tony Varriale
I can't say I've ever done this but the GSS does have the ability to probe other devices/brands via SNMP. Also, there is good scripting capability. So, my initial answer is yes. Keep in mind, GSS isn't a real DNS server. It's more of a DNS proxy... tv - Original Message - From:

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread robbie . jacka
Saying that the GSS is it's own DNS server isn't quite right - while it performs DNS resolution for configured host records (based on rules), I don't believe that it can recurse on behalf of a client, nor can it actually perform AXFRs, as far as I am aware. In other words, it does some DNS-related

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:33 PM, Nick Griffin wrote: Great, thanks to all. So am I to assume if I have X Data Centers, I need 1xX GSS's for redundancy? I'd put a cluster of 2 at each IDC, something like that. --- Roland

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:39 PM, robbie.ja...@regions.com wrote: . In other words, it does some DNS-related functions exceptionally well (rules, monitoring, etc) it does not do others at all. You're right - I should've said, . . . task-specific, limited-subset DNS server. Good catch! ;

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Tony Varriale wrote: I can't say I've ever done this but the GSS does have the ability to probe other devices/brands via SNMP. Also, there is good scripting capability. Yes on both counts. It's actually a neat little box. Not many folks seem to know about

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Ramcharan, Vijay A
You can always do F5 GTM if you need a full fledged DNS server (runs BIND I think). Vijay Ramcharan -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Roland Dobbins Sent: April 22, 2009 12:02 To: Cisco-nsp Subject:

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread robbie . jacka
Agreed. The learning curve on it is roughly equivalent to SVR4, but once you've gotten the basics down, it's a remarkably awesome device. -- robbie Roland Dobbins

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread robbie . jacka
or purchase the appropriate CNR licensing for the GSS and install it. the basic box license just isn't really a full fledged DNS server, but can have CNR and/or the cisco guard anti-DDoS functionality installed on it. -- robbie

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Larry Stites
We recently supplied (4) ACE20-MOD-K9 to a customer overseas for $17k/ea. These units were previously owned spares, unused, box opened to inspect contents. All units were complete with sealed software package and EULA paperwork. The customer had a problem with recognition of the card in 6509

Re: [c-nsp] VTY Lines

2009-04-22 Thread Andrew Yourtchenko
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Justin Shore jus...@justinshore.com wrote: on all interfaces including con0. I have TACACS+ set up with local auth as the backup (and only one user account on the devices which I've gone to great lengths to protect). Aux is explicitly disabled. He just

[c-nsp] Replacement for a Catalyst 4006?

2009-04-22 Thread Murphy, Jay, DOH
Anyone from this forum replaced (I'm sure) or fork-lifted an upgrade to something greater than the suggested upgrade path for a Catalyst 4006?? Responses welcomed. Jay Murphy IP Network Specialist NM State Government IT Services Division PSB - IP Network Operations Santa Fé, New México

[c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?

2009-04-22 Thread Felix Nkansah
Hi Team, I am prospecting a short contract from a client (an ISP) who wants to redesign their internal and edge networks. Among other things, their requirement is for their HSRP or GLBP routers to automatically synchronize their running configurations. So that when configurations changes are

Re: [c-nsp] Replacement for a Catalyst 4006?

2009-04-22 Thread Tony Varriale
What are the requirements? Quite honestly, I'm trying to forget anything 400x :) tv - Original Message - From: Murphy, Jay, DOH jay.mur...@state.nm.us To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: [c-nsp] Replacement for a Catalyst 4006? Anyone from

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Tony Varriale
Not sure if this is a question or a statement...but... I would look to run high SXF (12?) or SXH1. Note, some folks are having issues with SXH so it really depends on their load out and features. As for VSS, you shouldn't really be running SXH VSS. SXI or higher only please. :) tv -

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Tony Varriale
Yeah, good boxes. A lot of the functionality was already in the CSSes but stripped in the ACE. :) I've only done them with ACE and just a couple. That market is dominated by someone else. :) tv - Original Message - From: Roland Dobbins rdobb...@cisco.com To: Cisco-nsp

Re: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?

2009-04-22 Thread Tony Varriale
Doesn't really exist AFAIK. You would have to script something maybe through EEM and/or management. Note the CSSes have this but it's just a canned script. :) tv - Original Message - From: Felix Nkansah felixnkan...@gmail.com To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Wednesday, April 22,

Re: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?

2009-04-22 Thread Graham Wooden
Sync between each other? Yeah, you will have to look at something external, something that would have write perms (like through SNMP or AAA). Maybe a tacacs+ system can do this? I know there are products/scripts that can tftp off / snmp read the config and store them off. There maybe a push

Re: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?

2009-04-22 Thread Adam Armstrong
Graham Wooden wrote: Sync between each other? Yeah, you will have to look at something external, something that would have write perms (like through SNMP or AAA). Maybe a tacacs+ system can do this? I know there are products/scripts that can tftp off / snmp read the config and store them off.

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Brad Hedlund
On 4/22/09 10:39 AM, robbie.ja...@regions.com robbie.ja...@regions.com wrote: Saying that the GSS is it's own DNS server isn't quite right Not true. GSS can also operate entirely as a full blown DNS server. Using software versions 2.0 through 3.0(x), GSS product capabilities have been

Re: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?

2009-04-22 Thread Ian Henderson
Felix Nkansah wrote on 2009-04-23: Among other things, their requirement is for their HSRP or GLBP routers to automatically synchronize their running configurations. You could avoid the problem entirely, but still meet the objective by using VSS? Rgds, - I. -- Ian Henderson, CCIE #14721

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Hank Nussbacher
At 12:00 AM 23-04-09 +0800, Roland Dobbins wrote: On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:33 PM, Nick Griffin wrote: Great, thanks to all. So am I to assume if I have X Data Centers, I need 1xX GSS's for redundancy? I'd put a cluster of 2 at each IDC, something like that. Why 2 at each IDC? Since each

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Hank Nussbacher
At 09:45 AM 22-04-09 -0500, Nick Griffin wrote: So say I had 2 datacenter locations geographically disperse and I'm not running BGP. I have similar web and smtp servers at each locations. I'm not so much concerned that traffic gets load balanced to a cluster of servers when traffic enters a

Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

2009-04-22 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Apr 23, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: Why 2 at each IDC? Since each box acts as a backup for the other, if IDC #1 goes down - then the GSS at IDC #2 takes over. Because if IDC #1 goes offline entirely, your DNS for whatever services you're running are now hanging by a

Re: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?

2009-04-22 Thread Reuben Farrelly
On 23/04/2009 1:07 PM, Ian Henderson wrote: Felix Nkansah wrote on 2009-04-23: Among other things, their requirement is for their HSRP or GLBP routers to automatically synchronize their running configurations. You could avoid the problem entirely, but still meet the objective by using VSS?