Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Xavier Beaudouin via cisco-nsp
Hello, > Which is why we just focus on Juniper and Arista right now. Cisco are > still living in the pre-Covid era. Those good ol' days are gone, and > unless you have the clout to command proper discounts from Cisco, you > are losing out on better efficiencies with other vendors. +1... As well

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Mark Tinka via cisco-nsp
On 2/23/23 08:22, Hank Nussbacher via cisco-nsp wrote: For an ASR9906 to add 4x port 100G here is the GPL pricing: Part Number    Description    Unit List Price A99-4HG-FLEX-TR=    ASR 9900 400GE Packet Transport Combo Line Card - 5th Gen    271,493.78 CON-SNT-A994HGFT    SNTC-8X5XNBD ASR

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Mark Tinka via cisco-nsp
On 2/23/23 08:15, Hank Nussbacher via cisco-nsp wrote: A fully licensed asr1001-hx (all 8 10G ports operational) w/ 5 years Cisco Smartnet support - GPL is around $220K.  Add your discount here.  Cheap is relative. The ASR1000 platforms are pretty sexy, but Cisco have out-priced

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Hank Nussbacher via cisco-nsp
On 23/02/2023 0:19, Eric Louie via cisco-nsp wrote: Oh geez, I just realized I left a zero off the interface - we need 100G interfaces both upstream (x1) and downstream (x2) That probably changes the product choices a little bit. Anyone with 100G Internet feeds want to let me know what you're

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Hank Nussbacher via cisco-nsp
On 22/02/2023 20:25, zzif via cisco-nsp wrote: 22.2.2023, 5:31, Eric Louie via cisco-nsp wrote: For a 10G (or maybe 2x10G) Cisco ASR1001-HX is adequate, rock solid and relatively cheap. If you have more budget, need 100G etc. there are a lot of other options too. Br, EA A fully licensed

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Mark Tinka via cisco-nsp
On 2/23/23 01:06, Thomas Scott wrote: Yes - 400 Gbps throughput total If I recall correctly. That's right - it's basically an MPC7E line card with a-third of the capacity, i.e., 1x 3rd generation Trio chip (Eagle). Mark. ___ cisco-nsp mailing

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Mark Tinka via cisco-nsp
On 2/23/23 00:19, Eric Louie wrote: Oh geez, I just realized I left a zero off the interface - we need 100G interfaces both upstream (x1) and downstream (x2) That probably changes the product choices a little bit. Anyone with 100G Internet feeds want to let me know what you're using for a

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Thomas Scott via cisco-nsp
Yes - 400 Gbps throughput total If I recall correctly. > The MX204 has four rate-selectable ports that can be configured as 100-Gigabit Ethernet ports or 40-Gigabit Ethernet ports, or each port can be configured as four 10-Gigabit Ethernet ports (by using a breakout cable). The MX204 also has

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Eric Louie via cisco-nsp
Oh geez, I just realized I left a zero off the interface - we need 100G interfaces both upstream (x1) and downstream (x2) That probably changes the product choices a little bit. Anyone with 100G Internet feeds want to let me know what you're using for a border router?  I saw one reply for Arista

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Mark Tinka via cisco-nsp
On 2/22/23 20:29, Eric Louie wrote: Mark, thanks.  We were quoted a MX304 for the Internet edge from Juniper.  How has your experience been with it?  are you 10G upstream and downstream?  Any IPS on the 10G connection? The MX304 is not worth the money, for as long as the MX204 exists.

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread zzif via cisco-nsp
22.2.2023, 21:02, Eric Louie wrote: For a single 10G connection maybe even ASR1001-X, which is a really cheap and capable option. If you need more than four 10GE ports then there is ASR1002-HX, but I would go with the ASR9900 series after that. Br, EA Is there any other platform in the ASR

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Nick Hilliard via cisco-nsp
Eric Louie via cisco-nsp wrote on 22/02/2023 18:29: Mark, thanks. We were quoted a MX304 for the Internet edge from Juniper. How has your experience been with it? are you 10G upstream and downstream? Any IPS on the 10G connection? Eric, you're mixing up DFZ routing capability with traffic

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Eric Louie via cisco-nsp
Is there any other platform in the ASR 1k family that supports 10G interfaces and (can be licensed for) 10G throughput and 4M routes? I'll go look at the ASR-1001HX (is it still being sold?) -e- Eric Louie 619-743-5375 Cell/text Stay in this moment, it's the only one you really have Take the

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Gert Doering via cisco-nsp
hi, On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 06:29:00PM +, Eric Louie via cisco-nsp wrote: > We tried an NCS-5501 and it was a disaster, in a word.  The 10G interface, > uRPF, source-based blackholing, and routing table depth with Cisco is a > limiting factor in their product line. Do not forget the

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Eric Louie via cisco-nsp
Mark, thanks.  We were quoted a MX304 for the Internet edge from Juniper.  How has your experience been with it?  are you 10G upstream and downstream?  Any IPS on the 10G connection? We tried an NCS-5501 and it was a disaster, in a word.  The 10G interface, uRPF, source-based blackholing, and

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread zzif via cisco-nsp
22.2.2023, 5:31, Eric Louie via cisco-nsp wrote: For a 10G (or maybe 2x10G) Cisco ASR1001-HX is adequate, rock solid and relatively cheap. If you have more budget, need 100G etc. there are a lot of other options too. Br, EA Hi folks Recommendations and your experiences with an Internet

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Mark Tinka via cisco-nsp
On 2/22/23 05:31, Eric Louie via cisco-nsp wrote: Hi folks Recommendations and your experiences with an Internet border router for a 10G Internet connection, with DDoS service and unicast reverse path forwarding. Brand and model requested, if you have it, and bad experiences are ok, too.

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-22 Thread Barry Raveendran Greene via cisco-nsp
What ever the recommendations, require the vendor to deliver test data with all the features working together - under load - with a ACL/FIB values that reflects reality. > On Feb 21, 2023, at 19:31, Eric Louie via cisco-nsp > wrote: > > Hi folks > Recommendations and your experiences with