Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-10-28 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 03:40:02AM +, Waris Sagheer (waris) wrote: > ASR903 RSP2 supports mLDP MVPN in Release 3.15. The feature is also supported > on ASR920, ASR902 RSP3. With ASR 903 RSP2 you can get 12x10 Gig. How are ASR902/903/907 and ASR920 related? Similar chipset, CPU, IOS

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-10-27 Thread Waris Sagheer (waris)
:richih.mailingl...@gmail.com>>, "r...@futomaki.net<mailto:r...@futomaki.net>" <r...@futomaki.net<mailto:r...@futomaki.net>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports Hi Aaron, Nice summary,

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-10-26 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
Hi Aaron, Nice summary, > -- > About the Cisco ASR903... > > I'm interested in this. What do y'all think about this? Feature-wise the only drawback I see with this one is that I still can't see support for mLDP or NG-MVPN for that

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-10-26 Thread Aaron
? Any other comparable products out there y'all know of? Aaron -Original Message- From: Mark Tinka [mailto:mark.ti...@seacom.mu] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 10:02 AM To: Aaron; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports On 13/Jul/

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-21 Thread Waris Sagheer (waris)
To: Aaron aar...@gvtc.commailto:aar...@gvtc.com, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netmailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports Hi everyone, I'm needing more 10 gig ports in my CO's

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports - Update!

2015-07-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 15/Jul/15 09:51, Mark Tinka wrote: When I tested NG-MVPN on the ASR920 a few weeks ago, I can't recall if it was in any SDM template mode. I've pinged the Cisco engineer that we did this with to confirm. Will report back. So I checked with Cisco - there was no SDM template set when we

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-15 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
Mark Tinka Sent: 15 July 2015 08:46 On 14/Jul/15 18:02, Fredrik Vöcks wrote: Had to take this for a spinn. It takes all the commands for Rosen MVPN but then only silence. Last time I asked Cisco the answer was 'maybe spring 2016 release'. Interesting. When I first saw the

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Jul/15 18:02, Fredrik Vöcks wrote: Had to take this for a spinn. It takes all the commands for Rosen MVPN but then only silence. Last time I asked Cisco the answer was 'maybe spring 2016 release'. Interesting. When I first saw the ME3600X in 2009, Rosen MVPN was on the roadmap then

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 15/Jul/15 00:23, Fredrik Vöcks wrote: Problem is simular to ME3600 when you have wrong SDM installed. If you look at current software available to ASR920 it doesn't have any SDM templates to chose from and the template that is shipped does not have any MDT capabilites. show platform

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 15/Jul/15 10:41, Adam Vitkovsky wrote: Mark Tinka Sent: 15 July 2015 08:46 On 14/Jul/15 18:02, Fredrik Vöcks wrote: Had to take this for a spinn. It takes all the commands for Rosen MVPN but then only silence. Last time I asked Cisco the answer was 'maybe spring 2016 release'.

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 13/Jul/15 17:44, James Jun wrote: You could also look into ASR 903 with RSP2A-128; max it out with IMA-2Z cards to get 12x 10GE without oversubbing. Certainly not at the price of 920's, but definitely beats 9001. There is still a lot of opportunity in this space. But with the AR920,

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Jul/15 12:21, Fredrik Vöcks wrote: Just remember this platform is still young and there are some rather annoying bugs and features missing. Yes, expected. A bit like ME3600X all over again, but much more maturity in this particular space. For example when deployed as a layer2 FTTH

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread James Bensley
On 14 July 2015 at 11:21, Fredrik Vöcks fredrik.vo...@bredband2.se wrote: Yes the ASR920 is certainly the way forward in this segment. Just remember this platform is still young and there are some rather annoying bugs and features missing. Yes I think in 6 months time, this platform will be

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Fredrik Vöcks
Yes the ASR920 is certainly the way forward in this segment. Just remember this platform is still young and there are some rather annoying bugs and features missing. For example when deployed as a layer2 FTTH device; 1. You cant do igmp snooping without the metroipaccess licens. Say what? 2.

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
James Bensley Sent: 14 July 2015 11:35 Much as I love this box and the ME3600s as I've said in another thread, Cisco's testing is utter shite. Like the ME3600 pseudowires coming up but not forwarding any traffic, how did they not testing that?!!! James. I'm pretty certain that they are

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Fredrik Vöcks
On 14 July 2015 at 12:29, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: On 14/Jul/15 12:21, Fredrik Vöcks wrote: Just remember this platform is still young and there are some rather annoying bugs and features missing. Yes, expected. A bit like ME3600X all over again, but much more maturity in

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Jul/15 12:38, Fredrik Vöcks wrote: Only thing Im missing at the moment is MVPN Rosen GRE. Hmmh - Rosen MVPN should be there. Not sure if there is anything specific to it being over GRE, but what I do know is that there is no planned support for any kind of tunneling on the platform.

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Jul/15 13:06, Adam Vitkovsky wrote: I'm pretty certain that they are doing only (very limited quick check via test script) On ME3600 I remember one of the codes deleted interface descriptions -it's obvious to anybody looking at the lab config (unless there are no descriptions on

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 14/07/2015 11:35, James Bensley wrote: Much as I love this box and the ME3600s as I've said in another thread, Cisco's testing is utter shite. Like the ME3600 pseudowires coming up but not forwarding any traffic, how did they not testing that?!!! not as bad as carrier loss on a port-based

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Reuben Farrelly via cisco-nsp
---BeginMessage--- On 14/07/2015 9:34 PM, Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:06:37AM +, Adam Vitkovsky wrote: Or from a different angle why would they bother designing test procedure that tests every possible permutation making sure the box is error free if no one is using

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:06:37AM +, Adam Vitkovsky wrote: Or from a different angle why would they bother designing test procedure that tests every possible permutation making sure the box is error free if no one is using certain config combinations. The live audience makes sure

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread James Bensley
On 14 July 2015 at 12:06, Adam Vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@gamma.co.uk wrote: But it makes perfect sense to me Why would they waste resources/money when they know we do throughout testing ourselves anyways (no matter how good they testing might have been). Yeah I totally get that dude, but

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Fredrik Vöcks
Had to take this for a spinn. It takes all the commands for Rosen MVPN but then only silence. Last time I asked Cisco the answer was 'maybe spring 2016 release'. I really like NG-MVPN but for legacy reasons we cant migrate to this at the moment. Regards, Fredrik Vöcks CNO On 14 July 2015 at

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Fredrik Vöcks Sent: 14 July 2015 17:03 To: Mark Tinka Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports Had to take this for a spinn. It takes all the commands for Rosen MVPN

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Fredrik Vöcks
] On Behalf Of Fredrik Vöcks Sent: 14 July 2015 17:03 To: Mark Tinka Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports Had to take this for a spinn. It takes all the commands for Rosen MVPN but then only silence. Last time I asked

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-14 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
James Bensley Sent: 14 July 2015 14:37 My loyalty is Cisco is mediocre at best if they can't perform basic soak tests, can't resolve my TAC cases in a timely manner, or behave when we open a case for an interoperability issue instead of just blindly blaming the other vendor, why stay with

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 13/Jul/15 16:50, Aaron wrote: I'm thinking about Cisco ASR920's for (4) 10 gig ports and several (1) gig ports. Would this be good ? The ASR920 24-port comes with 4x 10Gbps ports. For me, these aren't nearly enough if you want to sell 10Gbps services to customers. I'd generally use

[c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-13 Thread Aaron
Hi everyone, I'm needing more 10 gig ports in my CO's for purposes of upgrading my FTTH OLT shelves with 10 gig. I currently use Cisco ME3600's and do a lot of core ospf, and MP-iBGP over that for MPLS L2VPN's (eline, elan, etree) and L3VPN's (VPNv4 and testing VPNv6) I'm thinking about

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 13/Jul/15 17:00, Lukas Tribus wrote: - the 2RU ASR-920-24SZ-IM can be equipped with a 2 port 10Gig module (so you have a total of 6x 10Gig ports on the ASR920 - just keep in mind that the ASR920 doesn't like/support oversubscription [1]) The ASR920 ASIC has a fixed amount of

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-13 Thread Lukas Tribus
Hi everyone, I'm needing more 10 gig ports in my CO's for purposes of upgrading my FTTH OLT shelves with 10 gig. I currently use Cisco ME3600's and do a lot of core ospf, and MP-iBGP over that for MPLS L2VPN's (eline, elan, etree) and L3VPN's (VPNv4 and testing VPNv6) I'm thinking

Re: [c-nsp] ME3600 migration to something with more 10 gig ports

2015-07-13 Thread James Jun
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 05:01:44PM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote: I'm afraid that if you're looking for anything with dense 10Gbps ports for customer services with features, form factor and price points of the ASR920/ME3600X from Cisco, you'll be hard-pressed. You could also look into ASR 903 with