Re: [c-nsp] Software Download Enhancements

2010-11-16 Thread Elmar K. Bins
g...@greenie.muc.de (Gert Doering) wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:35:36AM +0100, ?ukasz Bromirski wrote: ...and a very limited subset of platforms comparing to Cisco. In terms of going forward, IOS is being unified under IOS-XR umbrella (SPs), NX-OS (DC) and IOS-XE (everything else).

Re: [c-nsp] DFC3CXL CPU

2010-11-16 Thread Phil Mayers
On 11/16/2010 04:13 AM, Benjamin Lovell wrote: What he said, while adding that the CPU on the DFC is the same CPU as the SP on the PFC. DFC can still see pretty significant CPU usage as even if the RP or SP is doing the export the DFC CPU must still do all the recored creation, aging, etc. Very

Re: [c-nsp] IPv6 deployment

2010-11-16 Thread Arie Vayner (avayner)
Edward, Some answers inline. Arie -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Edward Iong Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 08:14 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] IPv6 deployment Dear All, We are

Re: [c-nsp] Software Download Enhancements

2010-11-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, November 16, 2010 08:27:09 am Michael Loftis wrote: Ah, sort of. With Juniper there's basically there's one image for each major product category -- more or less. So the J series has an image, the M/T another. The MX has it's image,... Ummh, not quite: - the M/MX/T

Re: [c-nsp] IPv6 deployment

2010-11-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, November 16, 2010 02:13:47 pm Edward Iong wrote: 1. Can IPv4 and IPv6 devices exist at the same time in the same LAN? Yes, this is called dual-stack. Single-stack is when only one of these IP protocols exists on the wire. and can they communicate with each other? Well, not

Re: [c-nsp] DFC3CXL CPU

2010-11-16 Thread Aivars
Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C SB1121 Processor (Rev 32) SB-1 CPU at 400Mhz, Implementation 0x401, Rev 0.3 Aivars Thank you all. And once again, could anyone tell me what DFC CPU is used in the WS-X6708-10G-3CXL? I believe that remote command module X show version will show

Re: [c-nsp] IPv6 deployment

2010-11-16 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 06:13:47AM +, Edward Iong wrote: We are planning to implement IPv6 to our existing IPv4 network. Good! There are several things I would like to ask:- 1. Can IPv4 and IPv6 devices exist at the same time in the same LAN? Yes. and can they communicate with

Re: [c-nsp] DFC3CXL CPU

2010-11-16 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 10:33 +0300, Sergey Nikitin wrote: And once again, could anyone tell me what DFC CPU is used in the WS-X6708-10G-3CXL? I believe that remote command module X show version will show this information. Switch#show module | incl ^ 6 68 CEF720 8 port 10GE with DFC

[c-nsp] GLC-LH-SM vs SFP-GE-L

2010-11-16 Thread jack daniels
Dear All, Are there any potential Technical issues with ignoring Cisco and using GLC-LH-SM rather than SFP-GE-L. What I can figure out is - with GLC-LH-SM - no monitoring (no DOM) SFP-GE-L higher cost. Regards ___ cisco-nsp mailing list

Re: [c-nsp] GLC-LH-SM vs SFP-GE-L

2010-11-16 Thread Jared Mauch
Yes. Cisco doesn't even support their own optics depending on the device. Make sure the device you are using supports the GLC vs SFP. Basically: If you didn't buy the optics with the device, it may not work even with service unsupported-transciever, even if the optics are cisco purchased.

Re: [c-nsp] GLC-LH-SM vs SFP-GE-L

2010-11-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, November 16, 2010 05:29:46 pm jack daniels wrote: Dear All, Are there any potential Technical issues with ignoring Cisco and using GLC-LH-SM rather than SFP-GE-L. What I can figure out is - with GLC-LH-SM - no monitoring (no DOM) SFP-GE-L higher cost. We've been able to run

Re: [c-nsp] GLC-LH-SM vs SFP-GE-L

2010-11-16 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 16/11/2010 11:02, Mark Tinka wrote: We've been able to run GLC-* type modules in routers like the 7201 with no problem. I haven't tried the reverse on a switch. Last time i tried, an NPE-G2 refused to accept a GLC-SX-MM. You can imagine that this was surprising, to say the least. I will

[c-nsp] ASR 9k and 100GE

2010-11-16 Thread tim
Hi list, Short question about the ASR 9006/9010: Do I need to replace the switch fabric (or something else - like with the GSR/12000 series when upgrading to 12400/12800) when 100GE is available? Or do I just buy a new 100GE Linecard and put it into the chassis? (We found some money in the

[c-nsp] mpls on RR ?

2010-11-16 Thread selamat pagi
I believed that mpls is not needed on ipv4 RR and vpnv4 RR. (as RR should not be in the forwarding path) Now, I came across some examples with mpls enabled on RR and want to verify if there are reasons for enabling MPLS in network offering Internet-accees and L3VPNs ? cheers, keti

Re: [c-nsp] mpls on RR ?

2010-11-16 Thread sthaug
I believed that mpls is not needed on ipv4 RR and vpnv4 RR. (as RR should not be in the forwarding path) Now, I came across some examples with mpls enabled on RR and want to verify if there are reasons for enabling MPLS in network offering Internet-accees and L3VPNs ? There may be reasons

[c-nsp] 6500 Priority Queuing (DSCP EXP no COS based)

2010-11-16 Thread Manu Chao
I would to translate following 7200 QoS template configuration to Catalyst 6500: class-map match-any PQ match dscp ef match mpls experimental topmost 5 policy-map QOS-PE-OUT class PQ priority percent 33 class class-default Does the priority command supported on 6500 or do we have to

Re: [c-nsp] mpls on RR ?

2010-11-16 Thread Stephen.Chen
yes,core routers always act RR, when no additional investment for network construction Stephen.Chen 2010/11/16 selamat pagi keti...@gmail.com Now, I came across some examples with mpls enabled on RR and want to verify if there are reasons for enabling MPLS in network offering

Re: [c-nsp] mpls on RR ?

2010-11-16 Thread selamat pagi
Let me rephrase my question if RR not in forwarding path, is there a reason for MPLS on RR 2010/11/16 Stephen.Chen cisco@gmail.com yes,core routers always act RR, when no additional investment for network construction Stephen.Chen 2010/11/16 selamat pagi keti...@gmail.com Now, I

Re: [c-nsp] mpls on RR ?

2010-11-16 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Let me rephrase my question if RR not in forwarding path, is there a reason for MPLS on RR no, not really. I've seen one SP doing it so they can run the same config/features on RRs compared to PEs and save on testing, and there is one tiny benefit: If you run the same MTU on all core links

Re: [c-nsp] ASR 9k and 100GE

2010-11-16 Thread Dmitry Kiselev
Hello! Yes, You should upgrade [both] RSP to receive linerate bandwidth on 2x100G line cards. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:47:45PM +0100, tim wrote: Hi list, Short question about the ASR 9006/9010: Do I need to replace the switch fabric (or something else - like with the GSR/12000

[c-nsp] MPLS FRR with auto-bw

2010-11-16 Thread Vitaliy Karlov
Hello, Lets say we have a MPLS-enabled triangle: http://i54.tinypic.com/k2lcw2.jpg Path AB is being crossed by a couple of MPLS TE Tunnels within automatic bandwidth adjustment (tunnel mpls traffic-eng auto-bw). At the any given point of time summary bandwidth of these tunnels is never

[c-nsp] John Rutkin has left BNP Paribas

2010-11-16 Thread john . rutkin
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[c-nsp] Jumbo frames on certain VLANs with UCS fabric?

2010-11-16 Thread David Hubbard
Hi all, I'm working on deploying a UCS system using iscsi to an EMC with only a pair of 4900M's in between. I'm having a bit of trouble wrapping my head around what I need to do to enable jumbo frames to make it from end to end on the storage vlan. What I've got so far: 1) Two redundant UCS

Re: [c-nsp] John Rutkin has left BNP Paribas

2010-11-16 Thread John Neiberger
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[c-nsp] 3560 SVI

2010-11-16 Thread Sharlon R. Carty
Hello, I have a odd situation. I created a SVI on a 3560 switch, assigned an IP address(public) without enabling ip routing and I was able to remotely access the switch. No default route added or anything like that. So how is it that I am able to access the switch? switch is connected to another

[c-nsp] ACE File System

2010-11-16 Thread Antonio Soares
Hello group, I'm curious about the ACE file system and I found this on the Cisco Live presentation BRKAPP-3003: Load debug plug-in to access ACE file system Is this plug-in available somewhere ? What's the procedure in order to load it ? I see there's one load command available: load

Re: [c-nsp] John Rutkin has left BNP Paribas

2010-11-16 Thread Stack, Stephen (Citco)
Not a day too soon :) Stephen Stack Systems Administrator - Network CITCO -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: 16 November 2010 16:34 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp]

Re: [c-nsp] 3560 SVI

2010-11-16 Thread Brandon Ewing
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:06:43PM -0400, Sharlon R. Carty wrote: Hello, I have a odd situation. I created a SVI on a 3560 switch, assigned an IP address(public) without enabling ip routing and I was able to remotely access the switch. No default route added or anything like that. So how is

Re: [c-nsp] 3560 SVI

2010-11-16 Thread Rob Taylor
Was the IP configured manually or received via dhcp? DHCP learned default route could be injected if the latter. I believe we can still have a default route, without unicast routing enabled. I thought we defined unicast routing to be between L3 interfaces on the device, but for management

Re: [c-nsp] Jumbo frames on certain VLANs with UCS fabric?

2010-11-16 Thread Manu Chao
Hi David, (L2) MTU is not per VLAN but per physical interface. Make sure all interfaces in a VLAN are configured for jumbo frames before configuring jumbo frame support on an SVI. You have to enable jumbo on ALL your 4900 switches interfaces. You have to enable jumbo on your UCS (The MTU is

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS FRR with auto-bw

2010-11-16 Thread Benjamin Lovell
I have never tried to solve this exact issue but you could try using the priority values to prevent the backup tunnel from preempting others on that path. I am not sure if these values are honored during FRR but you could give it a shot. -Ben On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Vitaliy Karlov

Re: [c-nsp] GLC-LH-SM vs SFP-GE-L

2010-11-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, November 16, 2010 06:47:15 pm Nick Hilliard wrote: Last time i tried, an NPE-G2 refused to accept a GLC-SX-MM. You can imagine that this was surprising, to say the least. I will not repeat the sentiments or language that were expressed by the individuals involved at the time,

Re: [c-nsp] Jumbo frames on certain VLANs with UCS fabric?

2010-11-16 Thread David Hubbard
Perfect, thanks Manu. I switched them all to 9000 but I would have never found the CoS setting. I don't have CoS defined so I read that in that case it defaults to best effort in the UCS manager so I hand typed 9000 into the drop down and it took it and now I've got jumbo frame storage traffic

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS FRR with auto-bw

2010-11-16 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Lets say we have a MPLS-enabled triangle: http://i54.tinypic.com/k2lcw2.jpg Path AB is being crossed by a couple of MPLS TE Tunnels within automatic bandwidth adjustment (tunnel mpls traffic-eng auto-bw). At the any given point of time summary bandwidth of these tunnels is never

Re: [c-nsp] 3560 SVI

2010-11-16 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 13:06 -0400, Sharlon R. Carty wrote: I have a odd situation. I created a SVI on a 3560 switch, assigned an IP address(public) without enabling ip routing and I was able to remotely access the switch. No default route added or anything like that. So how is it that I am

Re: [c-nsp] 3560 SVI

2010-11-16 Thread sthaug
I have a odd situation. I created a SVI on a 3560 switch, assigned an IP address(public) without enabling ip routing and I was able to remotely access the switch. No default route added or anything like that. So how is it that I am able to access the switch? switch is connected to another

Re: [c-nsp] GLC-LH-SM vs SFP-GE-L

2010-11-16 Thread Nick Hilliard
We *have* it working on a 7201 running SRE2. Yep, sounds right. They've been supported since SRC2. Nick ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at

Re: [c-nsp] mpls on RR ?

2010-11-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:07:12 pm Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote: no, not really. I've seen one SP doing it so they can run the same config/features on RRs compared to PEs and save on testing, and there is one tiny benefit: If you run the same MTU on all core links (including the

Re: [c-nsp] GLC-LH-SM vs SFP-GE-L

2010-11-16 Thread Ian Cox
It a little more complicated on the GLC vs SFP parts. The SFP parts are spec'd to support a higher case temperature then the GLCs. Some platforms airflow at worst case temperature can not sufficiently cool GLC, were as SFP parts are spec'd to work at the higher temperatures. Ian On 11/16/10 1:57

Re: [c-nsp] 3560 SVI

2010-11-16 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 14:59 -0400, Sharlon R. Carty wrote: Looks like it's that. did a show arp and saw the arp entries. So best practice is to disable proxy-arp on the interfaces? Yes, on all neighboring devices. The switch itself isn't a problem, only devices that route. Any special reason

Re: [c-nsp] GLC-LH-SM vs SFP-GE-L

2010-11-16 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 20:04 +0100, Marian Ďurkovič wrote: On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:36:06 -0800, Ian Cox wrote It a little more complicated on the GLC vs SFP parts. The SFP parts are spec'd to support a higher case temperature then the GLCs. Some platforms airflow at worst case temperature can

Re: [c-nsp] 3560 SVI

2010-11-16 Thread Sharlon R. Carty
Was an incomplete config. Intention was to add ip routing, gateway, all that good stuff later on. was surprised that it was actually accessible remotely. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Peter Rathlev pe...@rathlev.dk wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 14:59 -0400, Sharlon R. Carty wrote: Looks

Re: [c-nsp] 3560 SVI

2010-11-16 Thread Tóth András
In case there's no ip routing enabled and no ip default-gateway configured either, the switch will try ARPing the destination IP as it was directly connected. As highlighted by others, neighboring devices will reply if proxy-arp is enabled and if they have a valid route towards that destination.

Re: [c-nsp] MPLS FRR with auto-bw

2010-11-16 Thread Vitaliy Karlov
can you clarify what you mean by provide backup for path AC via ABC? Looking at the picture alone I'm guessing: are you asking to only use the path ABC for the tunnel AC if the other tunnels crossing AB leave enough bandwidth for the AC tunnel? If tunnel AC bw requirements can't be met on

Re: [c-nsp] VSS and 3560, convergence measurement

2010-11-16 Thread Geert Nijs
When i was measuring VSS convergence, i actually noted that it is better to use LACP or Pagp control protocol in active mode instead of putting a portchannel in fixed status on. My explanation for this was: when a portchannel uses LACP or Pagp active mode, it only starts forwarding from the

Re: [c-nsp] GLC-LH-SM vs SFP-GE-L

2010-11-16 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:21:21 +0100, you wrote: I have some (though not much) sympathy for Cisco's not wanting to support 3rd party transceivers. Hey, they have to feed their kids and all that. But I fail to see why they won't support their own transceivers. That's just plain stupid. Support

[c-nsp] Nexus BGP Default local-preference

2010-11-16 Thread Stoward, Matt
I've been looking at the online doco's (including the wiki on IOS-Nexus config), I can't find where/if I can do default local preference within the BGP configuration. All the command references that I can find references using a set command within a route-map per neighbour, but I can't find a

Re: [c-nsp] GLC-LH-SM vs SFP-GE-L

2010-11-16 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 23:10 +0100, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists wrote: On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:21:21 +0100, you wrote: But I fail to see why they won't support their own transceivers. That's just plain stupid. Support takes testing Testing takes time Time costs money Yeah.

[c-nsp] suppress bgp updates?

2010-11-16 Thread Mark Kent
I thought I knew how to nail down BGP announcements so that an edge router shows a uniform face to the rest of the world, but a recent experience and experiment tells me I was wrong. Here is the experiment: [upstream] | | [edge][internal] upstream and edge are eBGP peers, edge

Re: [c-nsp] suppress bgp updates?

2010-11-16 Thread Brad Hedlund (brhedlun)
Hiding internal routing turmoil, as you state it, works best when you are aggregating/summarizing -- which you are not doing here. Your RIB entry for 192.168.2.0 changes between static and OSPF routes. BGP sees this as a route change and does its job of notifying neighbors. This would work