Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-04 Thread Evgeny Izetov
...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Ben > Amick <bam...@humanarc.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 4, 2017 11:18 AM > *To:* Evgeny Izetov; Ryan Huff > *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group > *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS > > > Evgeny, > > That’s great, and I wa

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-04 Thread Ryan Huff
oip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> on behalf of Ben Amick <bam...@humanarc.com<mailto:bam...@humanarc.com>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 11:18 AM To: Evgeny Izetov; Ryan Huff Cc: Cisco VoIP Group Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS Evgeny, That’s great, and I

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-04 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Ben Amick <bam...@humanarc.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 11:18 AM To: Evgeny Izetov; Ryan Huff Cc: Cisco VoIP Group Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS Evgeny, That’s great, and I was able to

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-04 Thread Ben Amick
<cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS I saw a CiscoLive! session recently that seemed to recommend the ports and access-lists approach. The idea is that you can now specify separate port ranges for audio and video in SIP Profile. The session g

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-03 Thread Evgeny Izetov
gt; > > > *Ben Amick* > > Telecom Analyst > > > > *From:* Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com <ryanh...@outlook.com>] > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 03, 2017 9:18 PM > *To:* Ben Amick <bam...@humanarc.com> > *Cc:* NateCCIE <natec...@gmail.com>; Cis

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-03 Thread Ryan Huff
CCIE <natec...@gmail.com<mailto:natec...@gmail.com>>; Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS Ben, By flat network; I am to assume that there is no layer 2 partition between rtp/signaling an

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-03 Thread Ben Amick
: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 9:18 PM To: Ben Amick <bam...@humanarc.com> Cc: NateCCIE <natec...@gmail.com>; Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS Ben, By flat network; I am to assume that there is no layer 2 partition between rtp/sig

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-03 Thread Ryan Huff
ec...@gmail.com<mailto:natec...@gmail.com>> Cc: Ben Amick <bam...@humanarc.com<mailto:bam...@humanarc.com>>; Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS It's a shame really ... MPLS is f

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-03 Thread Ben Amick
] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 8:40 PM To: NateCCIE <natec...@gmail.com> Cc: Ben Amick <bam...@humanarc.com>; Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS It's a shame really ... MPLS is far superior IMO, for many reasons. Call it iW

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-03 Thread Ryan Huff
It's a shame really ... MPLS is far superior IMO, for many reasons. Call it iWAN, DMVPN, AutoVPN whatever, it is still as Nate says, public Internet. Try getting a 30 or 60 minute SLA with escalation after 15 minutes from a public Comcast or Time Warner/Charter package. On Jan 3, 2017, at

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-03 Thread NateCCIE
Or take the most approach of do nothing. My personal favorite is to use codecs where QoS matters less, like iLBC, OPUS, etc. So many business are getting rid of the QoS capable WAN and just doing VPNs, even if they have fancy names that make it sound better than public internet. Sent from my

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-03 Thread Hodgeman, Samuel
...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ben Amick Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:25 PM To: Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> Subject: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS So, I know this is an age old question that's debated, but I've been wondering if anyone here has a perspective here in regards

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-03 Thread Ben Amick
_ From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> on behalf of Ben Amick <bam...@humanarc.com<mailto:bam...@humanarc.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 4:25 PM To: Cisco VoIP Group Subject: [cisco-voip] Ja

Re: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-03 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1 From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Ben Amick <bam...@humanarc.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 4:25 PM To: Cisco VoIP Group Subject: [cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS So, I know this i

[cisco-voip] Jabber/CIPC and QoS

2017-01-03 Thread Ben Amick
So, I know this is an age old question that's debated, but I've been wondering if anyone here has a perspective here in regards to QoS for softphones. Obviously, with hardphones, you usually partition a separate VLAN with AutoQoS/DSCP tags, but that isn't applicable with softphones. I've heard