Re: [cisco-voip] 79xx and the ITL, without access to the existing phone system

2015-03-05 Thread Jonathan Charles
Sure!

Thanks!



Jonathan

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Andy andy.ca...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a copy of the doc for this if you want it.

 Andy
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 On 5 Mar 2015, at 17:38, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote:

 Jonathan:

 I’ll zip and email a copy to you directly. What I don’t have however is
 documentation on the tool. I was given a wiki URL that doesn’t work.

 - Dan

 *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net
 cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Charles
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 *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] 79xx and the ITL, without access to the
 existing phone system

 Can you share the file?


 Thanks!


 Jonathan

 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) 
 rratl...@cisco.com wrote:

 If the phones will register and have settings access enabled you can use
 the Cisco EraseITL utility to wipe them.  You can get it from TAC if you
 don’t have a copy handy.

 -Ryan

 On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Ryan Huff ryanh...@outlook.com wrote:

 About 1K of 79xx phones on a ccm 8.X going to ccm 10.5. So CTL/ITL is an
 issue. There are lots of ways to solve this with access to the previous
 phone system, I know.

 The catch for me is, I DO NOT have access to the previous phone system or
 the previous phone certificates (would be so much easier if I did, I know).

 Anyone have any dark magic I can script though the SSH / Web Server client
 on the phone that doesn't require me to bind to a valid ccm user from the
 previous system or in any other way, reference the previous system?

 Any other ideas?

 Thanks,

 Ryan
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Re: [cisco-voip] 79xx and the ITL, without access to the existing phone system

2015-03-05 Thread Matthew Loraditch
I would please like the doc and the zip Andy and Dan!
Thanks much!

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Charles [jonv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 2:26 PM
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Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 79xx and the ITL, without access to the existing 
phone system

Sure!

Thanks!



Jonathan

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Andy 
andy.ca...@gmail.commailto:andy.ca...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a copy of the doc for this if you want it.

Andy
andy.ca...@gmail.commailto:andy.ca...@gmail.com



On 5 Mar 2015, at 17:38, Daniel Pagan 
dpa...@fidelus.commailto:dpa...@fidelus.com wrote:

Jonathan:

I’ll zip and email a copy to you directly. What I don’t have however is 
documentation on the tool. I was given a wiki URL that doesn’t work.

- Dan

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Charles
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:07 PM
To: Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 79xx and the ITL, without access to the existing 
phone system

Can you share the file?


Thanks!


Jonathan

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) 
rratl...@cisco.commailto:rratl...@cisco.com wrote:
If the phones will register and have settings access enabled you can use the 
Cisco EraseITL utility to wipe them.  You can get it from TAC if you don’t have 
a copy handy.

-Ryan

On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Ryan Huff 
ryanh...@outlook.commailto:ryanh...@outlook.com wrote:

About 1K of 79xx phones on a ccm 8.X going to ccm 10.5. So CTL/ITL is an issue. 
There are lots of ways to solve this with access to the previous phone system, 
I know.

The catch for me is, I DO NOT have access to the previous phone system or the 
previous phone certificates (would be so much easier if I did, I know).

Anyone have any dark magic I can script though the SSH / Web Server client on 
the phone that doesn't require me to bind to a valid ccm user from the previous 
system or in any other way, reference the previous system?

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

Ryan
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Re: [cisco-voip] 79xx and the ITL, without access to the existing phone system

2015-03-05 Thread Daniel Pagan
Jonathan:

I’ll zip and email a copy to you directly. What I don’t have however is 
documentation on the tool. I was given a wiki URL that doesn’t work.

- Dan

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Charles
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:07 PM
To: Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 79xx and the ITL, without access to the existing 
phone system

Can you share the file?


Thanks!


Jonathan

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) 
rratl...@cisco.commailto:rratl...@cisco.com wrote:
If the phones will register and have settings access enabled you can use the 
Cisco EraseITL utility to wipe them.  You can get it from TAC if you don’t have 
a copy handy.

-Ryan

On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Ryan Huff 
ryanh...@outlook.commailto:ryanh...@outlook.com wrote:

About 1K of 79xx phones on a ccm 8.X going to ccm 10.5. So CTL/ITL is an issue. 
There are lots of ways to solve this with access to the previous phone system, 
I know.

The catch for me is, I DO NOT have access to the previous phone system or the 
previous phone certificates (would be so much easier if I did, I know).

Anyone have any dark magic I can script though the SSH / Web Server client on 
the phone that doesn't require me to bind to a valid ccm user from the previous 
system or in any other way, reference the previous system?

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

Ryan
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Re: [cisco-voip] 79xx and the ITL, without access to the existing phone system

2015-03-02 Thread Brian Meade
Looks like he doesn't have a CTI user he can use for this though.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) rratl...@cisco.com
 wrote:

  If the phones will register and have settings access enabled you can use
 the Cisco EraseITL utility to wipe them.  You can get it from TAC if you
 don’t have a copy handy.

  -Ryan

  On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Ryan Huff ryanh...@outlook.com wrote:

  About 1K of 79xx phones on a ccm 8.X going to ccm 10.5. So CTL/ITL is an
 issue. There are lots of ways to solve this with access to the previous
 phone system, I know.

 The catch for me is, I DO NOT have access to the previous phone system or
 the previous phone certificates (would be so much easier if I did, I know).

 Anyone have any dark magic I can script though the SSH / Web Server client
 on the phone that doesn't require me to bind to a valid ccm user from the
 previous system or in any other way, reference the previous system?

 Any other ideas?

 Thanks,

 Ryan
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Re: [cisco-voip] 79xx and the ITL, without access to the existing phone system

2015-03-02 Thread Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)
If the phones will register and have settings access enabled you can use the 
Cisco EraseITL utility to wipe them.  You can get it from TAC if you don’t have 
a copy handy.

-Ryan

On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Ryan Huff 
ryanh...@outlook.commailto:ryanh...@outlook.com wrote:

About 1K of 79xx phones on a ccm 8.X going to ccm 10.5. So CTL/ITL is an issue. 
There are lots of ways to solve this with access to the previous phone system, 
I know.

The catch for me is, I DO NOT have access to the previous phone system or the 
previous phone certificates (would be so much easier if I did, I know).

Anyone have any dark magic I can script though the SSH / Web Server client on 
the phone that doesn't require me to bind to a valid ccm user from the previous 
system or in any other way, reference the previous system?

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

Ryan
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Re: [cisco-voip] 79xx and the ITL, without access to the existing phone system

2015-03-02 Thread Brian Meade
Was the 8.x cluster mixed-mode?  If so, you just need to get the USB tokens
they used.  Outside of that, not much you can do without manually deleting
ITLs.  Any automation program is going to require a valid user with CTI
control of the phone.

Technically some of the phone models have a way to delete the ITL/CTL via
SSH but that would requires setting up an SSH user/enabling SSH on the
previous cluster.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Ryan Huff ryanh...@outlook.com wrote:

 About 1K of 79xx phones on a ccm 8.X going to ccm 10.5. So CTL/ITL is an
 issue. There are lots of ways to solve this with access to the previous
 phone system, I know.

 The catch for me is, I DO NOT have access to the previous phone system or
 the previous phone certificates (would be so much easier if I did, I know).

 Anyone have any dark magic I can script though the SSH / Web Server client
 on the phone that doesn't require me to bind to a valid ccm user from the
 previous system or in any other way, reference the previous system?

 Any other ideas?

 Thanks,

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Re: [cisco-voip] 79xx and the ITL, without access to the existing phone system

2015-03-02 Thread Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)
My assumption was that this was a cluster replacement using the same IP 
address(es) or hostnames such that the phones will register (as SCCP phones 
there is a high likelihood they will register as long as option 150  is used 
and they are in the db).

The CTI authentication is between the TSP on the PC running the eraseITL app 
and the UCM node running CTI.  Beyond that all of the XSI commands are sent via 
SCCP messages to the phone so no auth required.

-Ryan

On Mar 2, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Brian Meade 
bmead...@vt.edumailto:bmead...@vt.edu wrote:

Was the 8.x cluster mixed-mode?  If so, you just need to get the USB tokens 
they used.  Outside of that, not much you can do without manually deleting 
ITLs.  Any automation program is going to require a valid user with CTI control 
of the phone.

Technically some of the phone models have a way to delete the ITL/CTL via SSH 
but that would requires setting up an SSH user/enabling SSH on the previous 
cluster.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Ryan Huff 
ryanh...@outlook.commailto:ryanh...@outlook.com wrote:
About 1K of 79xx phones on a ccm 8.X going to ccm 10.5. So CTL/ITL is an issue. 
There are lots of ways to solve this with access to the previous phone system, 
I know.

The catch for me is, I DO NOT have access to the previous phone system or the 
previous phone certificates (would be so much easier if I did, I know).

Anyone have any dark magic I can script though the SSH / Web Server client on 
the phone that doesn't require me to bind to a valid ccm user from the previous 
system or in any other way, reference the previous system?

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

Ryan

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