Re: [cisco-voip] IP Phone 7841 AUX Port and Credit Card Machine

2015-01-22 Thread Anthony Holloway
Thanks again. Even if it was supported, what functionality does the phone
provide the reader? In other words, where does the scanned information go?
Not to CUCM obviously. Maybe to the attached PC over Ethernet?
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:54 PM Stephen Welsh stephen.we...@unifiedfx.com
wrote:

  Looks like it’s a un-documented capability that was limited to card
 readers:

  https://communities.cisco.com/docs/DOC-43387

  However, I’ll ask next week to see if there are any internal Cisco docs
 on this.

  Stephen

  On 22 Jan 2015, at 15:39, Ben Story ben.st...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.cyberdata.net/products/voip/oemendpoints/cardreadernetwork/documentation/010903_930136E_VoIP_Card_Reader_Quick_Ref.pdf

  http://www.cyberdata.net/products/voip/oemendpoints/cardreadernetwork/

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 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Anthony Holloway 
 avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the information Ben.

  I looked over that website and didn't find any product to suggest this
 was possible, and a google search on their site provided no results either.


 https://www.google.com/#q=%22auxiliary+port%22+OR+%22aux+port%22+site:cyberdata.net

  It's be great to find evidence of this if you have it.


 On Thu Jan 22 2015 at 8:43:15 AM Ben Story ben.st...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've seen such things at Cisco Live! before.  Not much about it on their
 website, but this place seems to have add ons for the Cisco phones
 including card readers.
 http://www.cyberdata.net/products/voip/index.html

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   On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Anthony Holloway 
 avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com wrote:

 All,

  I just ran into something very strange, were a customer is stating
 they are able to use a credit card machine via the AUX port on the back of
 a 7841.

  The 7841 data sheet and admin guide would suggest that this is not
 possible, as their only reference to this port is with the use of a 
 headset.

  Now, I know these ports can be used for troubleshooting and/or
 hacking the phones, but I have not heard of a legit use like this before.

  Can anyone comment on this?

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Re: [cisco-voip] IP Phone 7841 AUX Port and Credit Card Machine

2015-01-22 Thread Brian Meade
You should be able to run an XML service on the phone to read the data from
the credit card reader and do something with it.  I think this may have
been a Cisco StadiumVision feature with the 7975s where you could order
food/drinks and pay right on the phone.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Anthony Holloway 
avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com wrote:

 To clarify, it is not a full on credit card machine, rather a credit card
 reader.

 I've found to references to this being possible, but no product links yet.


 https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11760231/aux-port-cisco-ip-phone-794x


 https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/10250386/aux-port-cisco-7940-ip-phone


 On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 9:51:41 AM Anthony Holloway 
 avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com wrote:

 All,

 I just ran into something very strange, were a customer is stating they
 are able to use a credit card machine via the AUX port on the back of a
 7841.

 The 7841 data sheet and admin guide would suggest that this is not
 possible, as their only reference to this port is with the use of a headset.

 Now, I know these ports can be used for troubleshooting and/or hacking
 the phones, but I have not heard of a legit use like this before.

 Can anyone comment on this?


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Re: [cisco-voip] IP Phone 7841 AUX Port and Credit Card Machine

2015-01-22 Thread Matthew Loraditch
Were psychedelic implements involved? I’d have to guess the credit card machine 
is also Ethernet or wireless and the user just didn’t know…
The aux port is only ever for headset peripherals in my understanding.

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Subject: [cisco-voip] IP Phone 7841 AUX Port and Credit Card Machine

All,

I just ran into something very strange, were a customer is stating they are 
able to use a credit card machine via the AUX port on the back of a 7841.

The 7841 data sheet and admin guide would suggest that this is not possible, as 
their only reference to this port is with the use of a headset.

Now, I know these ports can be used for troubleshooting and/or hacking the 
phones, but I have not heard of a legit use like this before.

Can anyone comment on this?
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Re: [cisco-voip] IP Phone 7841 AUX Port and Credit Card Machine

2015-01-22 Thread Anthony Holloway
Ha!  I kind of said the same thing: two cables, or one cable + wireless,
and nope, not the case.  In fact, when the cable is unplugged from the AUX
port, the device says no line detected and when you plug it back in, it
works as designed.

So we deleted the phone

On Thu Jan 22 2015 at 8:53:37 AM Matthew Loraditch 
mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com wrote:

  Were psychedelic implements involved? I’d have to guess the credit card
 machine is also Ethernet or wireless and the user just didn’t know…

 The aux port is only ever for headset peripherals in my understanding.



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 All,



 I just ran into something very strange, were a customer is stating they
 are able to use a credit card machine via the AUX port on the back of a
 7841.



 The 7841 data sheet and admin guide would suggest that this is not
 possible, as their only reference to this port is with the use of a headset.



 Now, I know these ports can be used for troubleshooting and/or hacking the
 phones, but I have not heard of a legit use like this before.



 Can anyone comment on this?

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Re: [cisco-voip] IP Phone 7841 AUX Port and Credit Card Machine

2015-01-22 Thread Stephen Welsh
Hi Anthony,

Its not well documented, but I believe there is (was) a developer level 
capability to access the AUX port. From memory I think this product used to use 
the AUX port:
http://www.litescape.com/index.php/secure-profile-management

I’m with the DevNet team at Cisco Live next week, I can ask around if you like, 
have you got a cool trick you want to use it for ;)

Kind Regards.

Stephen Welsh

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On 21 Jan 2015, at 15:51, Anthony Holloway 
avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.commailto:avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com wrote:

All,

I just ran into something very strange, were a customer is stating they are 
able to use a credit card machine via the AUX port on the back of a 7841.

The 7841 data sheet and admin guide would suggest that this is not possible, as 
their only reference to this port is with the use of a headset.

Now, I know these ports can be used for troubleshooting and/or hacking the 
phones, but I have not heard of a legit use like this before.

Can anyone comment on this?
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Re: [cisco-voip] IP Phone 7841 AUX Port and Credit Card Machine

2015-01-22 Thread Anthony Holloway
Ben,

Thanks for looking in to this with us.  I appreciate your efforts.

However, both of those links show that this device must be plugged into
Ethernet to work, and therefore is not reliant on the AUX port.  In fact,
no where in those pages could I even find a reference to to the AUX port.

I'll keep looking too.

On Thu Jan 22 2015 at 9:39:21 AM Ben Story ben.st...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.cyberdata.net/products/voip/oemendpoints/cardreadernetwork/documentation/010903_930136E_VoIP_Card_Reader_Quick_Ref.pdf

 http://www.cyberdata.net/products/voip/oemendpoints/cardreadernetwork/

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 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Anthony Holloway 
 avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the information Ben.

 I looked over that website and didn't find any product to suggest this
 was possible, and a google search on their site provided no results either.


 https://www.google.com/#q=%22auxiliary+port%22+OR+%22aux+port%22+site:cyberdata.net

 It's be great to find evidence of this if you have it.


 On Thu Jan 22 2015 at 8:43:15 AM Ben Story ben.st...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've seen such things at Cisco Live! before.  Not much about it on their
 website, but this place seems to have add ons for the Cisco phones
 including card readers.
 http://www.cyberdata.net/products/voip/index.html

 --
 Ben Story
 CCSP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA
 ben.st...@gmail.com
 ben.st...@gmail.com
 @ntwrk80
 http://showbrain.blogspot.com
 http://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com


 From sour-faced saints and silly devotions, good Lord, preserve us!.
 -- St. Teresa of Avila

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Anthony Holloway 
 avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com wrote:

 All,

 I just ran into something very strange, were a customer is stating they
 are able to use a credit card machine via the AUX port on the back of a
 7841.

 The 7841 data sheet and admin guide would suggest that this is not
 possible, as their only reference to this port is with the use of a 
 headset.

 Now, I know these ports can be used for troubleshooting and/or hacking
 the phones, but I have not heard of a legit use like this before.

 Can anyone comment on this?

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Re: [cisco-voip] IP Phone 7841 AUX Port and Credit Card Machine

2015-01-22 Thread Anthony Holloway
That would be cool of you to do.  Thanks for the offer.  Nothing on my
mind, this was existing in the field and I just ran into it as I was
swapping a 7841 out for a 9951 with Video and there is no AUX port on the
9951.

On Thu Jan 22 2015 at 9:30:53 AM Stephen Welsh stephen.we...@unifiedfx.com
wrote:

  Hi Anthony,

  Its not well documented, but I believe there is (was) a developer level
 capability to access the AUX port. From memory I think this product used to
 use the AUX port:
 http://www.litescape.com/index.php/secure-profile-management

  I’m with the DevNet team at Cisco Live next week, I can ask around if
 you like, have you got a cool trick you want to use it for ;)

  Kind Regards.

 Stephen Welsh



  On 21 Jan 2015, at 15:51, Anthony Holloway 
 avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com wrote:

 All,

  I just ran into something very strange, were a customer is stating they
 are able to use a credit card machine via the AUX port on the back of a
 7841.

  The 7841 data sheet and admin guide would suggest that this is not
 possible, as their only reference to this port is with the use of a headset.

  Now, I know these ports can be used for troubleshooting and/or hacking
 the phones, but I have not heard of a legit use like this before.

  Can anyone comment on this?

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Re: [cisco-voip] IP Phone 7841 AUX Port and Credit Card Machine

2015-01-22 Thread Anthony Holloway
Thanks for the information Ben.

I looked over that website and didn't find any product to suggest this was
possible, and a google search on their site provided no results either.

https://www.google.com/#q=%22auxiliary+port%22+OR+%22aux+port%22+site:cyberdata.net

It's be great to find evidence of this if you have it.

On Thu Jan 22 2015 at 8:43:15 AM Ben Story ben.st...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've seen such things at Cisco Live! before.  Not much about it on their
 website, but this place seems to have add ons for the Cisco phones
 including card readers. http://www.cyberdata.net/products/voip/index.html

 --
 Ben Story
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 ben.st...@gmail.com
 ben.st...@gmail.com
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 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Anthony Holloway 
 avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com wrote:

 All,

 I just ran into something very strange, were a customer is stating they
 are able to use a credit card machine via the AUX port on the back of a
 7841.

 The 7841 data sheet and admin guide would suggest that this is not
 possible, as their only reference to this port is with the use of a headset.

 Now, I know these ports can be used for troubleshooting and/or hacking
 the phones, but I have not heard of a legit use like this before.

 Can anyone comment on this?

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Re: [cisco-voip] IP Phone 7841 AUX Port and Credit Card Machine

2015-01-22 Thread Ben Story
http://www.cyberdata.net/products/voip/oemendpoints/cardreadernetwork/documentation/010903_930136E_VoIP_Card_Reader_Quick_Ref.pdf

http://www.cyberdata.net/products/voip/oemendpoints/cardreadernetwork/

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Anthony Holloway 
avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the information Ben.

 I looked over that website and didn't find any product to suggest this was
 possible, and a google search on their site provided no results either.


 https://www.google.com/#q=%22auxiliary+port%22+OR+%22aux+port%22+site:cyberdata.net

 It's be great to find evidence of this if you have it.


 On Thu Jan 22 2015 at 8:43:15 AM Ben Story ben.st...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've seen such things at Cisco Live! before.  Not much about it on their
 website, but this place seems to have add ons for the Cisco phones
 including card readers. http://www.cyberdata.net/products/voip/index.html

 --
 Ben Story
 CCSP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA
 ben.st...@gmail.com
 ben.st...@gmail.com
 @ntwrk80
 http://showbrain.blogspot.com
 http://rand0mw0rds.blogspot.com


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 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Anthony Holloway 
 avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com wrote:

 All,

 I just ran into something very strange, were a customer is stating they
 are able to use a credit card machine via the AUX port on the back of a
 7841.

 The 7841 data sheet and admin guide would suggest that this is not
 possible, as their only reference to this port is with the use of a headset.

 Now, I know these ports can be used for troubleshooting and/or hacking
 the phones, but I have not heard of a legit use like this before.

 Can anyone comment on this?

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