Re: [Clamav-users] ClamAV should not try to detect phishing and othersocial engineering attacks

2004-11-15 Thread Hanford, Seth
Would that include viruses that require action on the part of the recipient? Included in password protected zips? What is the difference between tricking a person into opening a password protected zip (which is not dangerous in its delivered form) and tricking a user into clicking a link

RE: [Clamav-users] ClamAV should not try to detect phishing and othersocial engineering attacks

2004-11-15 Thread Diego d'Ambra
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:clamav-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian Mehnle Sent: 15. november 2004 17:54 To: ClamAV users ML Subject: RE: [Clamav-users] ClamAV should not try to detect phishing and othersocial engineering attacks Trog [EMAIL

Re: [Clamav-users] ClamAV should not try to detect phishing and othersocial engineering attacks

2004-11-15 Thread Dennis Skinner
Hanford, Seth wrote: Would that include viruses that require action on the part of the recipient? Included in password protected zips? What is the difference between tricking a person into opening a password protected zip (which is not dangerous in its delivered form) and tricking a user into

Re: [Clamav-users] ClamAV should not try to detect phishing and othersocial engineering attacks

2004-11-15 Thread Bogusaw Brandys
Diego d'Ambra wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:clamav-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian Mehnle Sent: 15. november 2004 17:54 To: ClamAV users ML Subject: RE: [Clamav-users] ClamAV should not try to detect phishing and othersocial engineering attacks Trog

Re: [Clamav-users] ClamAV should not try to detect phishing and othersocial engineering attacks

2004-11-14 Thread Steve Basford
since ClamAV reached v0.80, I am using it to scan and reject e-mail messages. Today I noticed that ClamAV also detects phishing attacks. Phishing is pure social engineering and poses no threat whatsoever in a technical sense. I'm certainly *very* happy that ClamAV team have added more phishing

Re: [Clamav-users] ClamAV should not try to detect phishing and othersocial engineering attacks

2004-11-14 Thread Joe Maimon
Steve Basford wrote: since ClamAV reached v0.80, I am using it to scan and reject e-mail messages. Today I noticed that ClamAV also detects phishing attacks. Phishing is pure social engineering and poses no threat whatsoever in a technical sense. I'm certainly *very* happy that ClamAV team

Re: [Clamav-users] ClamAV should not try to detect phishing and othersocial engineering attacks

2004-11-14 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Nov 14, 2004, at 9:26 AM, Steve Basford wrote: since ClamAV reached v0.80, I am using it to scan and reject e-mail messages. Today I noticed that ClamAV also detects phishing attacks. Phishing is pure social engineering and poses no threat whatsoever in a technical sense. I'm certainly

Re: [Clamav-users] ClamAV should not try to detect phishing and othersocial engineering attacks

2004-11-14 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Nov 14, 2004, at 9:32 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: Steve Basford wrote: since ClamAV reached v0.80, I am using it to scan and reject e-mail messages. Today I noticed that ClamAV also detects phishing attacks. Phishing is pure social engineering and poses no threat whatsoever in a technical sense.

Re: [Clamav-users] ClamAV should not try to detect phishing and othersocial engineering attacks

2004-11-14 Thread BitFuzzy
Joe Maimon wrote: I'm certainly *very* happy that ClamAV team have added more phishing detections (thanks Trog et all). Yes, you're correct it's social engineering but it doesn't stop users clicking on the links and downloading the keylogging trojan, from the remote site that the phish email