Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-10-03 Thread John W. Baxter
On 10/3/07 7:26 AM, Joao S Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pagamento (payment) is a VERY common subject in Portuguese, and having a numeric link anywhere after that in your mailbox or in the same email causes the false positive. That signature is WAY too prone of false positives! Sounds like

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-10-03 Thread Dennis Peterson
Joao S Veiga wrote: Hi, I was getting tons of these false positives (just reportedsubmitted a sample). you can delete the line: Email.FreeGame:4:*:75626a6563743a{-30}(67|47)616d65*687474703a2f2f(31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39) from /var/lib/clamav/daily.inc/daily.ndb and it will go

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-10-03 Thread Joao S Veiga
Hi John, think long and hard about the combination of payments and entities which are reduced to using numeric IPs in URLs. I suspect my business goes elsewhere. Agreed :-), but the problem is (and what has caused most of my problems) that if you have an email with the Subject: Pagamento in

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-10-03 Thread Dennis Peterson
Joao S Veiga wrote: Hi John, think long and hard about the combination of payments and entities which are reduced to using numeric IPs in URLs. I suspect my business goes elsewhere. Agreed :-), but the problem is (and what has caused most of my problems) that if you have an email with

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-10-03 Thread Dennis Peterson
Bill Landry wrote: Dennis Peterson wrote: Joao S Veiga wrote: Hi John, think long and hard about the combination of payments and entities which are reduced to using numeric IPs in URLs. I suspect my business goes elsewhere. Agreed :-), but the problem is (and what has caused most of

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-10-03 Thread Bill Landry
Dennis Peterson wrote: I've been following this discussion for the past few days, and I got to ask why scan an mbox file in the first place? I realize that if one does choose to scan an mbox file, then the scanner should do the right thing and consider each message within the mbox as a

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-10-03 Thread Bill Landry
Dennis Peterson wrote: Joao S Veiga wrote: Hi John, think long and hard about the combination of payments and entities which are reduced to using numeric IPs in URLs. I suspect my business goes elsewhere. Agreed :-), but the problem is (and what has caused most of my problems) that if

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-10-03 Thread Joao S Veiga
Hi Dennis and others, thanks for pointing out that this has been discussed already. Sorry about that; I only searched for Email.FreeGame and got to this thread (I wasn't subscribing). Hi Bill, If one is not scanning at transport time, then since the infected message has already been delivered,

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-10-03 Thread Joao S Veiga
Hi, If one has hundreds of thousands of users, I only have 50 users; I can put those wasted watts to work at night when the servers are idle. At some point you have to pass the responsibility onto the end user (personal virus scanner, updated regularly), otherwise you make yourself liable

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-10-03 Thread Gerard
On Wednesday October 03, 2007 at 02:16:30 (PM) Joao S Veiga wrote: If one has hundreds of thousands of users, I only have 50 users; I can put those wasted watts to work at night when the servers are idle. At some point you have to pass the responsibility onto the end user (personal

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-09-28 Thread Dennis Peterson
Jon Wagoner - Red Cheetah wrote: Is there any way I can disable the check for Email.FreeGame? Is there any reason to suspect this file will ever contain a viable virus? If not then don't bother scanning it. Sorry I don't have an answer for your question. dp

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-09-28 Thread Dennis Peterson
Jon Wagoner - Red Cheetah wrote: Yes, I'm periodically doing scans of the full drive. I could just skip the mysql directory, but that seems pretty bad security practice. Why does it seem that way to you ? It appears clamav just does a substring match on the exclude, so it would be easy to

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-09-28 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Jon Wagoner - Red Cheetah wrote: Yes, I'm periodically doing scans of the full drive. I could just skip the mysql directory, but that seems pretty bad security practice. Why does it seem that way to you ? I don't think scanning raw mysql database files is going to give

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-09-28 Thread Jon Wagoner - Red Cheetah
Yes, I'm periodically doing scans of the full drive. I could just skip the mysql directory, but that seems pretty bad security practice. Why does it seem that way to you ? It appears clamav just does a substring match on the exclude, so it would be easy to hide viruses. E.g. If I

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-09-28 Thread Daniel T. Staal
On Fri, September 28, 2007 12:41 pm, Dennis Peterson said: Jon Wagoner - Red Cheetah wrote: Is there any way I can disable the check for Email.FreeGame? Is there any reason to suspect this file will ever contain a viable virus? If not then don't bother scanning it. Sorry I don't have an

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-09-28 Thread Jon Wagoner - Red Cheetah
On Fri, September 28, 2007 12:41 pm, Dennis Peterson said: Jon Wagoner - Red Cheetah wrote: Is there any way I can disable the check for Email.FreeGame? Is there any reason to suspect this file will ever contain a viable virus? If not then don't bother scanning it. Sorry I don't

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-09-28 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Jon Wagoner - Red Cheetah wrote: It appears clamav just does a substring match on the exclude, so it would be easy to hide viruses. E.g. If I excluded .MYD, then you could just have your virus named somevirus.MYD and it would not be caught. If I would not exclude *.MYD

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-09-28 Thread Jon Wagoner - Red Cheetah
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Jon Wagoner - Red Cheetah wrote: It appears clamav just does a substring match on the exclude, so it would be easy to hide viruses. E.g. If I excluded .MYD, then you could just have your virus named somevirus.MYD and it would not be caught. If I would not

Re: [Clamav-users] false positive of Email.FreeGame on MySQL DB

2007-09-28 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Jon Wagoner - Red Cheetah wrote: hidden in /home/someuser/var/lib/mysql/my-virus-here. Users should not be able to write to that directory at all, it should be Take a closer look, that's not the real mysql directory, just a subdirectory under the users home