Dalibor Topic wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 23:30 +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
Hej,
Well, see that's my outsider take. In my view people should join
efforts independently of egos. Perhaps I am too idealistic...
I am sure if you spend some time researching on the Internet
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 11:11 +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
There isn't a thousand ways to do a VM. What we need is free VM that is
better than any non-free. How are we doing on this one?
Depends on how you interpret better. Faster? Smaller? ...?
TWISTI
Chris Burdess wrote:
Philippe Laporte wrote:
I am sorry that my purpose is not clear yet. It will be soon enough.
... when I solve world poverty, and people are bowing down to me in
the streets.
that's one way to get what I'm writing...
Do I really need to answer this? I think a
Philippe Laporte wrote:
I am sorry that my purpose is not clear yet. It will be soon enough.
... when I solve world poverty, and people are bowing down to me in
the streets.
Do I really need to answer this? I think a lot of people appreciate
my interventions.
Not on this list. Now, I
Christian Thalinger wrote:
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 11:11 +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
There isn't a thousand ways to do a VM. What we need is free VM that is
better than any non-free. How are we doing on this one?
Depends on how you interpret better. Faster? Smaller? ...?
Etienne Gagnon wrote:
http://sablevm.org/wiki/License_FAQ
Etienne
The page content is Cannot open
/var/lib/wiki/sablevm.org/page/L/License_FAQ.pg: Permission denied. As
the page is strongly involved into the current discussion, would you
mind giving permissions for the people to read
uuhhh, it's obvious that it was made so in the last few hours...it was
fine before...
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Audrius Meskauskas wrote:
Etienne Gagnon
Hi Philippe,
Please try to keep the lists on topic. And please keep runtime specific
stuff on the specific runtime lists. Don't cross-post unnecessary
(others have also done that, it is not just you). People please keep
non-classpath specific stuff off the GNU Classpath developers list. GCJ,
Hi,
Thanks for your mail which is very helpful.
Mark Wielaard wrote:
Hi Philippe,
Please try to keep the lists on topic. And please keep runtime specific
stuff on the specific runtime lists. Don't cross-post unnecessary
(others have also done that, it is not just you). People please keep
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 01:49:42PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
Michael Koch wrote:
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 01:28:10PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
- Sable has a large and active community
In the last time the project seems to be very inactive except some mails
on the
Hi,
You are some character!
Luckily you are not the standard...
These questions must be asked. They are not attacks. That is your own
cultural-specific interpretation...
I am an independent party seeking the best embedded VM, that's it,
that's all.
Regards,
Philippe Laporte
Software
Dalibor Topic wrote:
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:37:17PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
If you link native to a GPL VM, then that code must also be GPL, no?
That is an absolute requirement in the embedded world...
That is true. But running java bytecode in with a
Philippe == Philippe Laporte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Philippe Luckily you are not the standard...
True, but I think he's pretty fairly representing the community
baseline.
Philippe These questions must be asked. They are not attacks. That is your own
Philippe cultural-specific
Hej,
Well, see that's my outsider take. In my view people should join
efforts independently of egos. Perhaps I am too idealistic...
I am trying to provoke some kind of debate and hopefully resolution of
open issues...
I will soon launch a project of projects where people from
I'd like to add that Robert and I understand each other. That should be
obvious if you look at the Jam recent posts...
give me a chance here, I'm all good-will...
Original Message
Subject:Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770
Date: Wed, 08
Hi Dalibor,
You just managed to insult the SableVM team. Please stop this; it is
unworthy of a great project leader as you.
To all involved in this latest waste of bandwidth, please stop this
falmewaring. I am tired of all this.
As my team and me have been directly attacked, I have to answer
On Mar 9, 2006, at 12:05 AM, Etienne Gagnon wrote:
b) a few years ago, Richard Stallman's answered my questions about
using
the GNU GPL for SableVM, and he even proposed a GNU GPL exception for
SableVM. You might actually remember that I reused this text as a
basis
for drafting the current
On Mar 9, 2006, at 12:05 AM, Etienne Gagnon wrote:
b) a few years ago, Richard Stallman's answered my questions about
using
the GNU GPL for SableVM, and he even proposed a GNU GPL exception for
SableVM. You might actually remember that I reused this text as a
basis
for drafting the
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 01:49:42PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
Michael Koch wrote:
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 01:28:10PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
- Sable has a large and active community
In the last time the project seems to be very inactive except some mails
on the
Michael Koch wrote:
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 01:49:42PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
Michael Koch wrote:
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 01:28:10PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
- Sable has a large and active community
In the last time the project seems to be very
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:13:01PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
How about Nokia money as a solver? :-)
I dont think money will solve this.
If you link native to a GPL VM, then that code must also be GPL, no?
That is an absolute requirement in the embedded world...
That is true.
Michael Koch wrote:
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 01:28:10PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
- Sable has a large and active community
In the last time the project seems to be very inactive except some mails
on the lists.
Not true. They just like to keep it low volume for some reason
If you link native to a GPL VM, then that code must also be GPL, no?
That is an absolute requirement in the embedded world...
That is true. But running java bytecode in with a GPL vm and loading JNI
libs during that doenst render all the java/native code you run with the
VM to
Michael Koch wrote:
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:37:17PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
If you link native to a GPL VM, then that code must also be GPL, no?
That is an absolute requirement in the embedded world...
That is true. But running java bytecode in with
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:37:17PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
If you link native to a GPL VM, then that code must also be GPL, no?
That is an absolute requirement in the embedded world...
That is true. But running java bytecode in with a GPL vm and loading JNI
libs
Michael,
I disagree. I have evidence that the FSF considers our interpretation
to be correct; at least, Richard Stallman considered it to be correct a
few years ago. Our interpretation of the GNU GPL in the context of a
JVM is actually based on a long discussion I had with Richard Stallman a
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:49:32PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
Well then we all want to know what Nokia's legions of lawyers have to
say...:-)
I'm sure they will introduce just another opinion.
Cheers,
Michael
--
Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath!
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 09:12:41AM -0500, Etienne Gagnon wrote:
Hi Michael,
Just for the record, SableVM is being worked on full-time actively by,
at least, 7 people which are students of mine (and I am not counting
myself there, as I work part-time on it). I would not consider this
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Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote:
On tis, 2006-03-07 at 15:26 +0100, ext Philippe Laporte wrote:
Michael Koch wrote:
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 03:26:25PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
Michael Koch wrote:
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:49:32PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
Well then we all want to know what Nokia's legions of lawyers have to
say...:-)
I'm sure they will introduce just
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:49:32PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
There are just two sides with different opinions. They have their opinion.
FSF/GNU classpath has theirs.
Well then we all want to know what Nokia's legions of lawyers have to
say...:-)
Absolutely. We're developers, not
Michael Koch wrote:
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:49:32PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
Well then we all want to know what Nokia's legions of lawyers have to
say...:-)
I'm sure they will introduce just another opinion.
ok, but what assets does FSF have to lose...?
Hi Michael,
Just for the record, SableVM is being worked on full-time actively by,
at least, 7 people which are students of mine (and I am not counting
myself there, as I work part-time on it). I would not consider this
inactive. :-)
Usually, they have little time for working on issues that are
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 09:24 -0500, Etienne Gagnon wrote:
Michael,
I disagree. I have evidence that the FSF considers our interpretation
to be correct; at least, Richard Stallman considered it to be correct a
few years ago. Our interpretation of the GNU GPL in the context of a
JVM is
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:37:17PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
If you link native to a GPL VM, then that code must also be GPL, no?
That is an absolute requirement in the embedded world...
That is true. But running java bytecode in with a GPL vm and loading JNI
libs
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