Hello,
I've tried writing a a solution to shootout fannkuch (http://
shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/performance.php?test=fannkuchredux),
however I seem to have a bug in the checksum. Is it just the order of
permutations or am I missing something?
Code at
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:29 PM, HB hubaghd...@gmail.com wrote:
Usually we create some domain entities, map them with Hibernate/
iBatis.
I don't know how a Clojure application would be build without objects.
I wonder if watching this talk by Rich Hickey will help?
It is better to have 100 functions operate on one data structure than
10 functions on
10 data structures.
-- Alan Perlis
Why so? How is it advantageous?
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Indeed, that I did. I ran it through jvisualvm and it's definitely
growing objects. It's odd though, because I don't see any reason why
any of the namespaces I'm reloading would do that. It's not any one
namespace, but all of them together. That's why I was thinking that it
may have possibly been
Hello,
shouldnt the type x be listed a extender of xx here? Or why not?
Thanks, alux
(defprotocol xx example (xxx [x] some x'es))
(deftype x [] xx (xxx [x] :xxx))
(extenders xx)
= nil
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On 3 Sep., 12:49, alux alu...@googlemail.com wrote:
shouldnt the type x be listed a extender of xx here? Or why not?
No. It shows up if you actually use extend to the extend the protocol
to the type.
Sincerely
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Yes, thats what I see.
I just dont think this is very sensible.
Thank you Meikel!
Greetings, alux
On 3 Sep., 13:10, Meikel Brandmeyer m...@kotka.de wrote:
Hi,
On 3 Sep., 12:49, alux alu...@googlemail.com wrote:
shouldnt the type x be listed a extender of xx here? Or why not?
No. It
On 2010-09-02, at 10:02 PM, HB wrote:
So in idiomatic Clojure applications, maps are considered like
objects?
And to operate on them we pass them to functions?
I think that considering maps as a state representation is reasonable. There
are alternatives, but that's fine-tuning I think.
The context of the comment is functional programming vs. OO
programming. Pure functions compose better than do state-containing
objects, and 100! is much larger than 10!, so you have many more
options for composition/reuse with 100 functions that operate on a
single data abstraction.
On Sep 3,
I've got about 5 to 10 Clojure programs I've written for each of the 5
benchmark programs (many of which are only minor variations of each other,
looking for ways to make it faster). If you care to see any of the others,
they are on github here:
http://github.com/jafingerhut/clojure-benchmarks
Thanks Abishek, this did help!
It pretty much worked as-is for me, I only needed one small change.
It was that the get-mods-for-iva function below returns a seq whose
first element is the matches and next element(s) were my entire xml
content - easily rectified with (first (xz/xml1- x-zip...
On
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:29 PM, HB hubaghd...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey,
I finished reading Programming Clojure and Practical Clojure and
I'm hooked :)
Please count me in the Clojure club.
But I failed how to think in Clojure.
My main career is around Java web applications (Hibernate, Spring,
I'm only a little ways through Joy of Clojure (my first Clojure book)
but bear with me as I'm thinking aloud on what it means for me to
think in Clojure. I hope list members will forgive me if I get
things wrong - and please correct my working concept(s) as well.
One of the things that stuck out
Most likely. That one I found somewhat annoying in that the checksum
computation does depend upon the permutations being generated in a
particular order. It also seems to depend upon the sign flipping being done
for every permutation, even those beginning with a '1', for which the
pfannkuch
I cannot understand between ( next aseq) and ( rest aseq) ...
Thanks
AV
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Sorry, I can't accept any patch that modifies behavior globally. What
happens when two different libraries try to parse JSON with different
deserializers?
The only thing I would consider is a function that is passed into read-
json and invoked in read-json-object. But even that seems like adding
Sorry, I can't accept any patch that modifies behavior globally. What
happens when two different libraries try to parse JSON with different
deserializers?
The only thing I would consider is a function that is passed into read-
json and invoked in read-json-object. But even that seems like
Hi,
On 3 Sep., 11:16, Abraham Varghese abev...@gmail.com wrote:
I cannot understand between ( next aseq) and ( rest aseq) ...
next will realise the first item of the rest of aseq, while rest will
not. You can always express next in terms of rest:
(defn next
[s]
(seq (rest s)))
On Sep 2, 5:35 pm, braver delivera...@gmail.com wrote:
Can it be done on the command line, with -Dclojure.version=... ?
Yes!
And a correction: Clojure snapshots are labeled 1.3.0-master-SNAPSHOT
-S
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Let's back up: what are you trying to do with 'extenders'?
Stu
Yes, thats what I see.
I just dont think this is very sensible.
Thank you Meikel!
Greetings, alux
On 3 Sep., 13:10, Meikel Brandmeyer m...@kotka.de wrote:
Hi,
On 3 Sep., 12:49, alux alu...@googlemail.com wrote:
¿Hay alguien que están utilizando Clojure, profesionalmente o de otro
tipo, en España? Si es así, tal vez podríamos poner algo en marcha,
como un encuentro o el comienzo de un grupo de usuarios de Clojure .
Estilo Español...
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I guess @hhariri is research about Clojure in Spain.
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On Sep 2, 11:45 pm, John Fingerhut andy.finger...@gmail.com wrote:
Most likely. That one I found somewhat annoying in that the checksum
computation does depend upon the permutations being generated in a
particular order.
Fannkuch has required the permutations to be generated in a particular
Sean and Peter made comments that ring very true for me. I've always
had a problem with Java/Smalltalk/C# type OO. I also thought the
Common Lisp/Dylan way of generic functions and data structures made
more sense. Like Peter mentioned, I tend to think in terms of verbs
and transformations of
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Peter Buckley buckmeist...@gmail.com wrote:
One of the things that stuck out for me that I heard somewhere (can't
remember exactly) was that OOP is about framing questions in terms of
nouns and FP is about framing questions in terms of verbs.
Perhaps you heard
It is better to have 100 functions in one category than 10 functions
in 10 categories?
I don't think so. See:
http://clojure.github.com/clojure/clojure.core-api.html
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On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 21:05, Miki miki.teb...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd go over SICP, though it not in Clojure but in Scheme - it will
show you how to think functional.
+1 on this.
http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/
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I'm not in Spain but I certainly speak Español
Saludos,
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On Sep 3, 2010, at 10:34 PM, soyrochus wrote:
¿Hay alguien que están utilizando Clojure, profesionalmente o de otro
tipo, en España? Si es así, tal vez podríamos poner algo en marcha,
como un encuentro o el comienzo de un
Hi,
I was wondering why there aren't versions of the copy method in
clojure.java.io that handle URLs as input. I have needed, written and
reused them several times now.
So I thought it would be a good idea to include them in
clojure.java.io.
Adding the following methods and updating the
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:50 AM, fin gpl...@gmail.com wrote:
It is better to have 100 functions in one category than 10 functions
in 10 categories?
I don't think so. See:
http://clojure.github.com/clojure/clojure.core-api.html
Clojure functions categorized:
You can already extend the Write-JSON protocol to any type. But it
doesn't work in reverse. JSON has no standardized way to express types
beyond Object/Array/String/Number, so any deserialization will always
be application-specific.
-S
On Sep 3, 8:58 am, Baishampayan Ghose b.gh...@gmail.com
A very handy web page to have around; thanks for mentioning it. It
looks nice too, but the accessibility is a bit poor - when I look at
it with an increased text size, the CSS quickly falls apart and
renders it confusing and/or unreadable. So if the maintainer for that
site is on this newsgroup
Really nice example Peter,
Thanks, I appreciate it.
On Sep 3, 6:36 am, Peter Buckley buckmeist...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm only a little ways through Joy of Clojure (my first Clojure book)
but bear with me as I'm thinking aloud on what it means for me to
think in Clojure. I hope list members will
I had the exact same problem transitioning from OOP to Lisp, and I can
only offer my own experiences. I finally understood lisp, by
programming a new pet project FROM SCRATCH, in the most
STRAIGHTFORWARD way possible. I originally started by porting over a
program I had written in Java, and found
The problem I was trying to avoid is having to do a second pass over
the data after it comes out of the parser, it's more expensive and
it's also ugly for nested data structures. Would using defonce- and
defmacro- from clojure-contrib address the problem with namespace
collisions?
On Sep 3, 12:01
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Michael Ossareh ossa...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd go over SICP, though it not in Clojure but in Scheme - it will
show you how to think functional.
+1 on this.
http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/
i think some folks argue that
http://www.htdp.org/
is even better :-)
or at
On Sep 2, 11:01 pm, Miki miki.teb...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I've tried writing a a solution to shootout fannkuch (http://
shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/performance.php?test=fannkuchredux),
however I seem to have a bug in the checksum. Is it just the order of
permutations or am I missing
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Rayne disciplera...@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed, that I did. I ran it through jvisualvm and it's definitely
growing objects. It's odd though, because I don't see any reason why
any of the namespaces I'm reloading would do that. It's not any one
namespace, but all of
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No. I'm talking about collisions when multiple deserialization
functions are added from different sources. It cannot be a global
setting.
-S
On Sep 3, 1:28 pm, Dmitri dmitri.sotni...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem I was trying to avoid is having to do a second pass over
the data after it comes
On 1 Sep 2010, at 08:25, Konrad Hinsen wrote:
Right, but then this should be blamed on macroexpand-all, which
implements a crude approximation to how macroexpansion is done by
the compiler.
There's also clojure.contrib.macro-utils/mexpand-all, which does a
much better job, but still
Thanks and congratulations to the Clojure/core team for making this
happen. Can't wait!
Justin
On Sep 3, 3:15 pm, Stuart Halloway stuart.hallo...@gmail.com wrote:
We're happy to announce that the official (first clojure-conj) conference
site is now live athttp://clojure-conj.org, and that
Dang! Wish I could be there but it clashes with a previous commitment
in Albuquerque (a cat show - seriously!).
Do you have a sense of what level the talks are going to be at? Would
a Clojure n00b get a lot of value out of it or are most of the talks
going to be advanced? (I'd expect the latter
That's a very good point, I can't think of a good way to address that
off top of my head, I agree that passing in a function isn't really
great either.
On Sep 3, 3:17 pm, Stuart Sierra the.stuart.sie...@gmail.com wrote:
No. I'm talking about collisions when multiple deserialization
functions
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On 2010/09/03, at 02:18, HB wrote:
This
David Nolen dnolen.li...@gmail.com writes:
Clojure functions categorized: http://clojuredocs.org/quickref/Clojure%20Core
Wow, that is very nice -- especially the expandable view of the
implementation source.
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Everybody here has a common interest. Clojure. And I think that all people
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Revision number is a great idea!
I don't think I want to do copy-on-write within Clojure because it
would require a separate thread for cleanup. The underlying database
should take care of it anyways.
Thanks!
Alyssa
On Sep 2, 8:47 am, Timothy Baldridge tbaldri...@gmail.com wrote:
It checks the
ITA. I was planning on doing what clojure.contrib.sql does with a
global var and with-connection block for dynamic binding. Unless
people don't like that approach...
On Sep 2, 12:56 pm, Mike Meyer mwm-keyword-googlegroups.
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Thanks for sharing this link David. Love it.
On Sep 3, 8:54 am, David Nolen dnolen.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:50 AM, fin gpl...@gmail.com wrote:
It is better to have 100 functions in one category than 10 functions
in 10 categories?
I don't think so. See:
This may help!
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.001/abelson-sussman-lectures/
These twenty video lectures by Hal Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman are
a complete presentation of the course, given in July 1986 for Hewlett-
Packard employees, and professionally produced by Hewlett-Packard
I'm interested in Conjure webframework and I'm considering trying to
read its source code and participate later.
What do you think?
Do you other projects in mind?
This discussion is amazing guys :)
On Sep 3, 8:25 pm, CuppoJava patrickli_2...@hotmail.com wrote:
I had the exact same problem
Fannkuch has required the permutations to be generated in a particular
order for years because too many programmers contributed programs that
did not generate some of the permutations or used faster algorithms to
generate the permutations.
I've read several implementation so far and I'm still
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat. A conference I want to attend right in my
backyard and its the same weekend as my high school class reunion...
On Sep 3, 4:27 pm, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
Dang! Wish I could be there but it clashes with a previous commitment
in Albuquerque (a cat
On Sep 3, 8:06 pm, Nick Brown nwbr...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. A conference I want to attend right in my
backyard and its the same weekend as my high school class reunion...
Everyone's different, but if I were you, I'd opt for just about any
conference compared to going to
I too was very excited till I found out the date. I'm giving a talk on riak in
Detroit on that Saturday.
Maybe next year.
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On Sep 3, 4:24 pm, Miki miki.teb...@gmail.com wrote:
Fannkuch has required the permutations to be generated in a particular
order for years because too many programmers contributed programs that
did not generate some of the permutations or used faster algorithms to
generate the
Hey,
Since Relevance is heavily investing in Clojure, do you think they are
working on a Clojure web framework?
Personally, I wish.
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How about introducing a second part to the api? (store) creates a
wrapper for the persistent address, and refp then takes one of those
wrappers and the name?
I like that. I would go one step further and say refp should have a
default data store that is used unless you specify anything else
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