ANN Langohr 1.0 (final) is released

2013-07-28 Thread Michael Klishin
Langohr [1] is a small, easy to use Clojure client for RabbitMQ. 1.0.1 is a long overdue 1.0 release of the library that has been 2 years in the making and is one of the most popular ClojureWerkz projects. Release notes and some notes about future plans: http://blog.clojurewerkz.org/blog/2013/07/

Yet Moare Hoare

2013-07-28 Thread Alan Shaw
The Philosophers are Dining at https://github.com/nodename/async-plgd/blob/master/src/hoare/monitors.clj Comments, criticisms, corrections are appreciated. -A -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to c

Re: is intellij idea a good ide for clojure development?

2013-07-28 Thread Mike
On a related note (If I need to post this elsewhere, just let me know): What do people use for ClojureCLR development? If I *ever *get started, this is where I will need to be working. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to

Re: Interest in a commercial IDE for Clojure?

2013-07-28 Thread Colin Fleming
Thanks for the thoughts, Matt - I agree it's a tough market for all the reasons you describe. It's unfortunate that companies that pay for an Ultimate license would have to pay again for this when the JetBrains-developed extra languages (Python, Ruby) come for free. There's not much to be done unfo

Re: T-shirts?

2013-07-28 Thread Alex Miller
It may take me a couple weeks but I will see what I can do from the "sanctioned" camp. Alex On Sunday, July 28, 2013 5:22:21 PM UTC-5, Isaac Wagner wrote: > > There was a discussion a while ago about stickers which led to > http://clojure.org/swag. Could we get some sanctioned T-shirts as well

Re: subseq, garbage collection, and finalize

2013-07-28 Thread Cedric Greevey
It's almost never a good idea to use finalize. Basically, you should only use finalize when you're holding native resources that need to be released when your object is GC'd. If you're using finalizers just to investigate when certain objects are getting collected, you might want to use WeakRefere

Re: is intellij idea a good ide for clojure development?

2013-07-28 Thread Cedric Greevey
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Mark wrote: > > > On Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:52:37 AM UTC-5, Cedric Greevey wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Mark wrote: >> >>> Ok, then you consider Stallman's philosophy unethical since it >>> considers the philosophy of distributing close-source u

subseq, garbage collection, and finalize

2013-07-28 Thread Brandon Bloom
Hi all, I'm trying to understand the object retention behavior when subseq is applied to sorted collections. A quick glance at the source of APersistentTreeMap.java suggests that the reified subseq onl

Re: is intellij idea a good ide for clojure development?

2013-07-28 Thread Ben Wolfson
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Mark wrote: > > So Stallman spins "freeing code" with freeing slaves. Obviously the guy > has some ethical problems of his own. > > The claim that freeing something wrongly held isn't theft (in a moral rather than legal sense), though the wrongful holder would ca

Re: is intellij idea a good ide for clojure development?

2013-07-28 Thread Mark
On Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:52:37 AM UTC-5, Cedric Greevey wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Mark >wrote: > >> Ok, then you consider Stallman's philosophy unethical since it considers >> the philosophy of distributing close-source unethical. > > > No, that would only be if he consider

T-shirts?

2013-07-28 Thread Isaac Wagner
There was a discussion a while ago about stickers which led to http://clojure.org/swag. Could we get some sanctioned T-shirts as well? There are a few Clojure shirts on Zazzle, but what I would be interested in is some black, grey, and white shirts with nothing but a big Clojure logo on the fro

Re: Interest in a commercial IDE for Clojure?

2013-07-28 Thread Matt Hoffman
I've been watching your fork on Github for a while -- I've been excited to see that someone is actively working on La Clojure. I would pay for an IntelliJ plugin that was significantly better than La Clojure, but I'm also aware that I'd be paying just for my preference of IntelliJ over Eclipse for

Re: is intellij idea a good ide for clojure development?

2013-07-28 Thread Laurent PETIT
2013/7/28 Matt Hoffman : >> To be honest, I can't wait until we have something like that for Clojure. >> Give me a fast, light, InteliJ based IDE that "just works" 100% of the time, >> and I'd pay several hundred dollars for that software. > > > +1 to this. > > I've used IntelliJ for years for Java

Re: is intellij idea a good ide for clojure development?

2013-07-28 Thread Matt Hoffman
> > To be honest, I can't wait until we have something like that for Clojure. > Give me a fast, light, InteliJ based IDE that "just works" 100% of the > time, and I'd pay several hundred dollars for that software. +1 to this. I've used IntelliJ for years for Java, Javascript, HTML, SQL, ... deve

Re: How to set up a Clojure nREPL using Vim & Fireplace

2013-07-28 Thread Chris Ford
If you don't regularly use vim, and you want a pre-canned Clojure setup, you can try https://github.com/ctford/vim-fireplace-easy, which is a project of Dave Ray's I updated for Fireplace. Cheers, Chris On 28 July 2013 22:29, Joe Cooljure wrote: > One of the cool things about using Clojure is

How to set up a Clojure nREPL using Vim & Fireplace

2013-07-28 Thread Joe Cooljure
One of the cool things about using Clojure is being able to evaluate code interactively in the read-eval-print-loop (REPL). The vim-fireplace project on GitHub (aka Foreplay) is the newest & best way to accomplish this from within the Vim/GVim editor

Re: help actually changing :use to :require :refer :all?

2013-07-28 Thread Phil Hagelberg
On Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:46:06 PM UTC-7, Alex Baranosky wrote: > On our work projects at Runa, we have an unwritten code standard of always > writing out the full namespace, and not using shortcuts as you suggest. The > reason being that it can be very hard to search for usages of a namesp

Re: Can't seem to import namespaces of test.generative

2013-07-28 Thread Jeremy Heiler
The answer to this question can be found here:  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17904061/cant-seem-to-import-namespaces-of-test-generative In summary, version 0.1.4 doesn't have these namespaces. The solution is to use 0.1.5 or newer. Ultimately, it seems like the test.generative README is ou

Re: Interest in a commercial IDE for Clojure?

2013-07-28 Thread Greg
Korny, I think there were multiple posts from me on that day. This is the one: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/clojure/fWOZ9AJzBtU/djhcj4nYVxgJ Cheers! Greg -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA. On Jul 28, 2013, at 1:28 AM, Korny Sietsma

Re: Pair programming session on EuroClojure Conference

2013-07-28 Thread Chris Ford
Seniority is relative. All you need to be able to teach someone is maybe a year's more experience than them. If you had the time to dedicate to this idea, some kind of structured "jam" could be useful. At LambdaJam this month, each afternoon we had a puzzle of some kind (spelling correction etc) t

Re: Pair programming session on EuroClojure Conference

2013-07-28 Thread Manuel Paccagnella
Hello Sebastian, I think it's a fantastic idea. The only problem that I see is: there will be enough senior Clojure developers? Best Regards, Manuel Il giorno domenica 28 luglio 2013 14:31:18 UTC+2, Sebastian Hennebrueder ha scritto: > > Hello, > > I came up with an idea for the EuroClojure co

Pair programming session on EuroClojure Conference

2013-07-28 Thread Sebastian Hennebrueder
Hello, I came up with an idea for the EuroClojure conference in Berlin in October this year. A session where senior Clojure people do pair programming with other people to share experience on tool usage, coding, testing etc. What do you think about the idea, and are there a couple of senior pe

Re: is intellij idea a good ide for clojure development?

2013-07-28 Thread Cedric Greevey
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Mark wrote: > Ok, then you consider Stallman's philosophy unethical since it considers > the philosophy of distributing close-source unethical. No, that would only be if he considered it unethical for someone to disagree with him, rather than unethical for some

Re: Interest in a commercial IDE for Clojure?

2013-07-28 Thread Mark
I think you get more bang for the buck if you start off with Intellij's open source community edition. On Saturday, July 27, 2013 6:12:06 PM UTC-5, Frank Hale wrote: > > Hanging off the last couple comments on extracting IntelliJ's components > which I think is quite interesting; Has anyone co

Re: is intellij idea a good ide for clojure development?

2013-07-28 Thread Mark
Ok, then you consider Stallman's philosophy unethical since it considers the philosophy of distributing close-source unethical.You should probably understand Stallman's position on other things and how he's behaved in regards to other projects (glibc, GCC, Gnome) to really understand his p