I unfortunately agree on the difficulty of entrance for newcomers to
clojure and I'd like to add that I've been left feeling that this seem to
not be a priority in the community. Once I discussed the visual asthetics
of clojure.org on #clojure and although the tradeoff of easy data access
and
Stepping into a function that wasn't previously isntrumented is not
supported yet.
However, you can just instrument both functions (C-u C-M-x on each one),
and when one function calls the other you'll seamlessly step through both.
Cheers,
Artur
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Hi everyone,
I just discovered after reading the post [1], CIDER has debugging facility
for Clojure. It seems to be nice but what I could not find was the step in
functionality.
Is there such a functionality that you are aware of?
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Timur
[1]
Great to hear!
This week I wasted half a day over some silly error which should've been
caught quickly. Mistakenly believed the input suddenly turned complex,
requiring a complicated grammar.
My personal postmortem discovered a bias — I thought, Cool, let's whip out
Instaparse! Let's paint a
Ubergraph is a recently-released Clojure graph data structure, compatible
with Loom and supporting additional functionality:
https://github.com/Engelberg/ubergraph
In the 0.1.1 release, I added some more convenient ways to manipulate the
attribute maps of nodes and edges (add-attrs,
Instaparse 1.4.0 is now deployed to clojars and available to use in
leiningen projects by adding [instaparse 1.4.0] to your project file.
Instaparse is a convenient way to generate parsers from context-free
grammars.
The new release features an improved algorithm for handling complex nested
Okay thanks that should be enough.
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 12:07:29 PM UTC+2, Artur Malabarba wrote:
Stepping into a function that wasn't previously isntrumented is not
supported yet.
However, you can just instrument both functions (C-u C-M-x on each one),
and when one function calls
Recommended article for those who want a library accumulator, with 20%
effective utility and 80% fat, also called framework:
http://www.computer.org/cms/Computer.org/ComputingNow/issues/2015/04/mso2015020010.pdf
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Kristo Koert kristo.ko...@gmail.com wrote:
I
Thank you very much to all!
Now I completely understand the metadata behavior with the reader. I'll try
to adopt eastwood, thanks for the suggestion.
Is clearly that the documentation confuses a little bit.
Cheers!
Andrey
2015-05-05 23:25 GMT+02:00 James Reeves ja...@booleanknot.com:
The
richard.mo...@posteo.de writes:
The goal of this project is to develop a comprehensive and extensible
model for describing Clojure sources from an API perspective. I will
also write a program that analyses Clojure sources according to this
model and outputs data documenting their usage. This
This is for Sean specifically, but hopefully this will clear some things up
for other people
I would argue that Pedestal is perhaps objectively simpler than Ring. I
would also add it's more performant, more flexible, and more secure (by
default).
In Pedestal, everything is an interceptor - a
I think the real problem is the lack of conventions for adding metadata to
docstrings. I sorely miss `some-func/var' and SOME-PARAM from Emacs Lisp.
It's always
clear where you refer to other functions/variables and to parameters. This
makes it way easier to read (and parse) a docstring.
On 6 May
Projects like Pedestal do themselves a tremendous disservice with their
poor front pages. It's probably an amazing project but it was very
difficult to get a sense from the README.Md what it could actually do for
me. Whoever owns the Pedestal project, please add a section to the top that
is
Colin,
Indeed, there is no ready-made shopping cart for Clojure (from what I
know).
Recently I was making the personal project site, and was also seeking for
that, with no luck.
Until I have realized that the shopping cart is just two data tables and
(optional) user auth system (buddy worked
There is one,
Wakeful (https://github.com/ninjudd/wakeful) routing library fits your
criteria.
Here I copy the sample from its README
(use 'flatland.wakeful.core)
(def handler (wakeful awesome.api))
Now http calls dispatch to methods calls in namespaces under awesome.api:
GET
A bit strange approach. Where are ring, compojure, or maybe .. om?
Also, most of the time you do not need any complex framework to build a
basic webservice with Clojure.
Say, Luminus and Caribou are too complex for me, hence too restrictive.
After writing sufficient amount of fairly good
It will act exactly like transduce if you put a transducer on the input
channel.
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 12:26:55 PM UTC-4, Pierre-Yves Ritschard wrote:
Hi clojure,
There's a thing I find myself doing often in some of my projects where
I reduce over a core.async channel this way:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 11:12:58 PM UTC+2, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
Maybe you are not aware of the history, but clojure-doc.org exists
specifically because someone who spoke out loudly and repeatedly against
CAs took the time to create it, and it _only_ requires a Github account and
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 6:17:37 AM UTC-5, Phillip Lord wrote:
richar...@posteo.de javascript: writes:
The goal of this project is to develop a comprehensive and extensible
model for describing Clojure sources from an API perspective. I will
also write a program that analyses
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 9:15:53 PM UTC+2, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
I am not 'in the know' on decisions regarding clojure.org.
[...]
What I find more interesting than the portion of Sean Corfield's post that
you chose to quote, was this one (emphasis added by me):
To clarify, because
Thanks for the thoughts!
If anybody also has any other STM experience (e.g. Haskell?) to
compare/contrast, that would be nifty to hear.
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On 6 May 2015 at 21:58, Alex Miller a...@puredanger.com wrote:
I would have to say that the biggest surprise is how little they're needed
in Clojure. The combination of immutable data, functions to update complex
data structures, and fast pure function updates with atoms actually
satisfies a
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 3:15:53 PM UTC-4, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
The rough edges show up on a lot of things in the Clojure ecosystem. I
know I suck at documentation which is why I moved clojure.java.jdbc’s
documentation out to
On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 7:37:47 PM UTC-5, richar...@posteo.de wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2015 07:17:54 UTC+9 schrieb kovasb:
I'm mostly interested in something like
http://docs.racket-lang.org/scribble/
Thanks for the idea! There is http://clojure-scribble.publicfields.net/,
which
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 3:30:57 PM UTC-5, Fluid Dynamics wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 4:09:54 PM UTC-4, Alex Miller wrote:
Yes, I think that's largely correct. The goal of Richard's project is to
create an information model (data) describing a project from the
perspective of
https://github.com/clojure/clr.tools.nrepl
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 3:39:18 PM UTC-5, rogergl wrote:
Does ClojureCLR provide an nrepl implementation that would allow
vim.fireplace to connect to his session ?
Regards
Roger
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I would have to say that the biggest surprise is how little they're needed
in Clojure. The combination of immutable data, functions to update complex
data structures, and fast pure function updates with atoms actually
satisfies a large percentage of real use cases.
For cases where you do need
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 2:15:53 PM UTC-5, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
First some facts, without any evaluation:
There are only a handful of people in the world with authorization to edit
pages on clojure.org. I would guess maybe only 5.
14
Far more have authorization to edit the wiki
On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 6:27:47 PM UTC-5, richar...@posteo.de wrote:
Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2015 01:56:13 UTC+9 schrieb Sean Grove:
I've been hoping someone would rebuild Codeq
https://github.com/Datomic/codeq, now that tools.analyzer (and
friends) is out and ClojureScript has made so
Paul,
I'm quite impressed with what you and Timothy have done. I'm taking a third
look at Pixie and cljs-terra. Is there any chance that cljs-terra could run
on generic lua instead of terra/luajit?
The main problem I'm having is that anything that isn't interpreted (or
that generates C/C++ I
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 11:34:15 AM UTC-5, Sean Corfield wrote:
On May 5, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Kristo Koert kristo...@gmail.com
javascript: wrote:
My argument was that a more visually appealing homepage would leave a
better first impression and attract more new beginner developers to
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 4:09:54 PM UTC-4, Alex Miller wrote:
Yes, I think that's largely correct. The goal of Richard's project is to
create an information model (data) describing a project from the
perspective of use. Codeq goes much deeper by integrating code history -
that allows
Does ClojureCLR provide an nrepl implementation that would allow
vim.fireplace to connect to his session ?
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On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Fluid Dynamics a2093...@trbvm.com wrote:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 3:15:53 PM UTC-4, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
The rough edges show up on a lot of things in the Clojure ecosystem. I
know I suck at documentation which is why I moved clojure.java.jdbc’s
First some facts, without any evaluation:
There are only a handful of people in the world with authorization to edit
pages on clojure.org. I would guess maybe only 5.
Far more have authorization to edit the wiki pages on dev.clojure.org --
hundreds, I think. A subset of those who have signed a
Hi clojure,
There's a thing I find myself doing often in some of my projects where
I reduce over a core.async channel this way:
(core.async/reduce update-fn init-state input-channel)
By doing this on a stream of inbound events.
When looking at doing this with transducers, it's a bit unclear how
Thanks Avi! I’ll bookmark that and see whether I can either borrow from it or
contribute to it in the context of FW/1 :)
Sean
On May 6, 2015, at 3:46 AM, Avi Avicenna maverick.avice...@gmail.com wrote:
There is one,
Wakeful (https://github.com/ninjudd/wakeful) routing library fits your
On May 6, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Paul deGrandis paul.degran...@gmail.com wrote:
I would argue that Pedestal is perhaps objectively simpler than Ring. I
would also add it's more performant, more flexible, and more secure (by
default).
As Surgo said in the other thread:
Projects like Pedestal do
I've put together a rough API to use Authorize.net for credit card
transactions through Authorize.net -- not as clean as Stripe, but lower
fees.
https://github.com/sventechie/authorize-net-clj
I'm hoping some other people want this and are interested in participating.
I'm not a very advanced
Also, most of the time you do not need any complex framework to build a
basic webservice with Clojure.
True. Also, what is a basic web service? I have a friend who just got done
with the 12 week crash-course in Rails that is offered by DevBootcamp in
New York City. In 12 weeks he had to
On May 6, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Andy Fingerhut andy.finger...@gmail.com wrote:
What I find more interesting than the portion of Sean Corfield's post that
you chose to quote, was this one (emphasis added by me):
Thank you Andy, yes, that was indeed my main point. The guides repo (behind
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 6:34:15 PM UTC+2, Sean Corfield wrote:
The issue has been raised several times and is pretty much always shut
down by those in charge. It was a huge struggle just to have the Getting
Started page updated to remove complexity and point at the wiki instead
Hi,
I had a short chat with Dmitri (the owner of luminus) and we both agreed
that this is a good plan. I just don't have much time right now (family
things), but as soon as there is more I will develop a prototype,
integrating the features of closp and closp-crud into luminus and make them
Hey Sven,
It looks to me like you could really polish the +auth part and integrate
most of that part of closp into Luminus. I'd be happy to help with that.
Then you could make a +closp that depends on +auth and build the UI parts,
etc. Having a working +auth with a default db configuration,
Maybe I don't entirely understand what a web framework is, but it seems
to me
like Immutant is an example of something that might fit into a lot of the
buckets.
I agree. Perhaps people feel that it lacks the auto-generation of
scaffolding for CRUD? Though I imagine that would be easy to
On top of all of that, Pedestal is a non-starter for me due to the specific
definition of Windows being a non-supported platform.
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 10:48:58 AM UTC-6, Sean Corfield wrote:
On May 6, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Sean Corfield se...@corfield.org
javascript: wrote:
And that’s
Yes, Sven Richter has started a project called closp-crud that does just
that. However it is also pretty easy to use Korma or YeSQL directly,
especially from Luminus.
--Sven
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 1:15:20 PM UTC-4, larry google groups wrote:
Maybe I don't entirely understand what a web
On May 5, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Kristo Koert kristo.ko...@gmail.com wrote:
My argument was that a more visually appealing homepage would leave a better
first impression and attract more new beginner developers to check out
clojure. (Ex. comparing haskell.org or scala-lang.org vs clojure.org). An
On May 6, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Sean Corfield s...@corfield.org wrote:
And that’s why I thought that Pedestal looked very complex and hard to use.
Even the Hello World example is couched in terms that make it look overly
complex.
I Googled to see if there was a better page explaining Pedestal
add-watch is a good example of this:
https://clojuredocs.org/clojure.core/add-watch
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:33 PM, larry google groups
lawrencecloj...@gmail.com wrote:
I am looking here:
https://strange-loop-2012-notes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/monday/functional-design-patterns.html
I
Hi,
Our team at Teradata is looking for new Clojure devs. Ideally we are hoping
to find people in/around Boston, but we are prepared to consider remote
candidates for the right people.
The role involves a lot of interaction with Hadoop, with all the metadata
for managing datasets stored in
I am looking here:
https://strange-loop-2012-notes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/monday/functional-design-patterns.html
I read:
Observer Pattern
https://strange-loop-2012-notes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/monday/functional-design-patterns.html#observer-pattern
- Register an observer with a
Not completely functional and not thoroughly tested.
Several tests still fail -- the most important one being interrupting an
eval. (I know what the fix is, but haven't had the time.)
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 3:58:34 PM UTC-5, Alex Miller wrote:
https://github.com/clojure/clr.tools.nrepl
This is certainly true:
Docs are about empathy, which means discussions should show empathy.
I am not sure what you mean by That response does not respect people’s
limited time. I think you mean that Pull Requests are often a waste of
time, because you can not be certain if the Pull Request
I'm not saying this is everyone's experience or anything, but at times I
have at times considered some deeper STM-work with agents but I could not
seem to penetrate the documentation at the time. I do not know if it's
different now
-- Morgon
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 5:38:08 PM UTC-4,
I would like to write a detailed blog post about how developers are
actually using transducers. If you have a public project on Github that is
using transducers, would you please point me to it? I would like to see
what you did.
If you are not using transducers, but you plan to in the near
Good points, puzzler.
I'm in the last stages of getting an commerce site ready for production and
my issues with getting authentication to work properly may force my company
to switch to an inferior but easier to configure technology (i.e., abandon
Clojure).
Sven Richter's friend-ui/closp
Indeed. I think Emacs docstrings are a bottom line -- Clojure should be
able to make these distinctions at least. And this would in turn allow
tools to use them. Why can I not click on function names in a docstring
and go to the function definition?
Phil
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