Looks awesome.
I think we're going the same direction. Myself, I wanted clays to be
first-class items that can live in Clojure namespaces, and give you all of
that. The downside is this: if I particular clay is wrong for some
particular evaluation, you're stuck. The clay is the clay is the
On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:18:42 AM UTC-4, Andrew wrote:
Cool... Do you use kilns at Akamai, and to what extent?
Another question: you set up coals and clays and eventually kilns are
fired. When you're setting up the coals and clays in code, you're telling
the system about dependencies.
Well, I’m not sure what you mean. It does nothing specific with the “data
types” as such, so I would say, no, that isn’t it.
On Monday, May 7, 2012 10:59:22 AM UTC-4, cperkins wrote:
I like it. Kiln looks like it is automatically composing the request
handler based mostly on a description
The Kiln is an evaluation strategy for insanely complex functions. It was
designed based on two things: my experience with managing several large,
complex, ever-changing web applications in Clojure, and my experience in
dataflow approaches to modelling.
I have released version 1.0.0 on
But why Exploding Fish, Walter?
Why? Why?
Poor fish.
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The Kiln is an evaluation strategy for insanely complex functions. It
was
designed based on two things: my experience with managing several large,
complex, ever-changing web applications
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On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Jeffrey Straszheim
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Speaking of which, NIO is certainly a subset of Java that would benefit from
a nice Clojure wrapper. Not that I'm volunteering or anything.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Alex Osborne a...@meshy.org wrote:
John Harrop wrote:
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Alex Osborne a...@meshy.org
I'm thinking this should be handled at the reader level, not the evaluator.
Since doubles are normally understood at read time, reading these values
as symbols and expecting the evaluator to get them right could lead to
unexpected behavior.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Rich Hickey
So, I just upgraded my machine to a Macbook Pro, and am reinstalling
everything.
I'm thinking about using Slime with Aquamacs. Does anyone have a link to a
tutorial getting Slime up and running w/ Aquamacs?
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I'd love to meet some other Clojure folks. Is anyone else in Florida?
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM, atreyu atreyu_...@yahoo.es wrote:
A group for share bookmarks (and comments) about clojure and
functional programming:
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thanks for clojure! it
Yes to 5! I'm on a Mac and don't feel like dealing w/ upgrading to 6.
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Francesco Bellomi
francesco.bell...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like an interesting idea for me; it would also allow for
automated dependency analysis for a given target jvm.
btw, I'd also
I've started a series of blog posts about the use and implementation of my
Cells like Dataflow library that currently lives in contrib. I'd love to
get some traffic to it. Even more, since I'm looking for a job now, I
wouldn't mind some links to it so maybe it will show up when potential
Yes! I did forget to provide a link.
http://jstraszheim.livejournal.com/
On Apr 4, 1:23 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff...@gmail.com
wrote:
I've started a series of blog posts about the use and implementation of my
Cells like Dataflow library that currently lives in contrib. I'd love
You're doing amazing work! I look forward to the result.
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Paul Stadig p...@stadig.name wrote:
I've been speaking with the Terracotta engineers, so here is an update on a
couple of the issues:
1) array.clone(). It turns out this is a bug in Terracotta. They
+1
I think two simple atomic integers would do the trick:
1. Number of transactions entered
2. Number completed, or exited through exception.
The amount 1 exceeds 2 is your retry rate.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Mark Volkmann r.mark.volkm...@gmail.comwrote:
It seems that an
The last I looked it would need to be added at the Java level.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Mark Volkmann r.mark.volkm...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Jeffrey Straszheim
straszheimjeff...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
I think two simple atomic integers would do the trick
://github.com/weavejester/compojure/tree/master.
Just need some time to get my head around compojure.
Cheers,
Hubert.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jeffrey Straszheim
straszheimjeff...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd love to see something built around very-high scalability, using NIO
and thread
Is there a good standalone library to create HTML from Clojure, preferably
something like the CL-WHO? This will be for a standalone application, not
an application server. I just need to generate some populated HTML and put
it in to a file. Thanks.
The code isn't too hard to follow, 'cept the barging stuff gets a bit
tricky. A nice 10,000 foot overview would be nice, however.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Mark Volkmann r.mark.volkm...@gmail.comwrote:
Is there a summary somewhere of the steps Clojure STM takes to avoid
deadlocks? I'm
/f35d01a859329409
I've used it to output html to a file and found it very convenient:
http://clojure.googlegroups.com/web/categories.clj
On Mar 18, 12:01 am, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff...@gmail.com
wrote:
Is there a good standalone library to create HTML from Clojure,
preferably
something
I agree. It doesn't matter what order the compiler reads the definitions: I
can scroll up and type.
It does effect humans reading the code, however. Often when looking at
unfamiliar Clojure code, I find myself scrolling to the bottom first.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Meikel Brandmeyer
I'd love to see something built around very-high scalability, using NIO and
thread pools and such.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Sean francoisdev...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure if some of the design inputs make sense, specifically
Spring and Hibernate.
Point 1 - I've found the strength
Only to do a tiny little test w/ not-deployed code. But still: I am a
professional Clojure developer now :)
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Are they both Java 6? I know it fixed a lot of performance issue over 5.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Vincent Foley vfo...@gmail.com wrote:
I found that the problem is caused by the version of Sun's JVM on
Ubunty Hardy Heron. On my Ibex machine at home, the first two lines
(Object.wait
Just using the REPL to test some Java code interactively.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Vincent Foley vfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Personal project at work, or part of something bigger?
On Mar 16, 9:27 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff...@gmail.com
wrote:
Only to do a tiny little test w
Don't be discouraged. At work I use Eclipse with all sorts of mature tools
(this is Java). It is, more or less, pretty easy to use. At home I use
Aquamacs with a simple clojure-mode.el. I can produce lines of code many
times faster and easier with the later. No doubt a big part reflects the
Try frequently doing:
(use :reload 'fully.qualified.name.of.my.file)
When you are interactively adding code to the REPL (by typing or through
Slime or whatever) it doesn't know the line number. If you reload the file
containing the offending code, it will.
I usually have a comment block like
Hasn't someone been working on a Clojure vesion of Parsec?
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Christophe Grand christo...@cgrand.netwrote:
Anatoly Yakovenko a écrit :
basically i am dealing with a 3rd party library, (interactive brokers
tws api), that takes an interface with lots of
Awesome! I expect I'll be trying it out tonight.
Oh, and I hope this goes into contrib -- it'll keep my classpath shorter.
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Tom Faulhaber tomfaulha...@gmail.comwrote:
I have now released the first version of my pretty printer as part
of my cl-format library.
In Java, numbers prefixed with a 0 are treated as octal. It should not
surprise us, then, that 08 and 09 blow up.
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:08 PM, levand luke.vanderh...@gmail.com wrote:
Seems like there's a bug here. All the digits less than 8 work. If
leading zeros aren't allowed, at least
Probably. The Java BigInteger classes are not particularly fast, and do not
seem to be a priority to Sun. Therefore Clojure is not competitive on large
integer algorithms.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.orgwrote:
Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org writes:
Hi
It is impossible to give a simple answer. You need to be more specific
about the needs of your application. Will it need to be concurrent, for
instance?
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Anatoly Yakovenko aeyakove...@gmail.comwrote:
I just starting playing around with clojure, and i know
Currently the clojure.contrib.walk code provides a nice way to perform a
depth first map operation on trees. However, I need to fold across a tree.
It would be nice if walk provided this.
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, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Jeffrey Straszheim
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Currently the clojure.contrib.walk code provides a nice way to perform a
depth first map operation on trees. However, I need to fold across a
tree.
It would be nice if walk provided this.
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I've put together another cells-like library. Mine differs from the others
in that it uses ref's and transactions, allowing global integrity checks,
rollbacks, and other features that the agent based cells systems do not
have.
It can be found at:
Well, there is no real replacement for raw intelligence, but I hope we'll
all agree that attitude and curiosity are also critical.
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org wrote:
bOR_ boris.sch...@gmail.com writes:
I'm not from the software engineers field, but how
(range 0 1000)))
Clojure is reasonable :)
Jeffrey Straszheim wrote:
It is pretty common to get a slowdown when moving from map to pmap. It
just
means that the thread scheduling overhead is greater than the gain from
parallelizing the code. The behavior might be very different
java.util.IdentityHashMap
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Mark Engelberg mark.engelb...@gmail.comwrote:
Is there a variation of hash-map which supports comparison of keys
using identical? rather than = ? Ditto with sets.
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I've added some Datalog material to the wiki:
http://code.google.com/p/clojure-contrib/wiki/DatalogOverview
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Jeffrey Straszheim
straszheimjeff...@gmail.com wrote:
Makes sense. That would work. It certainly looks cleaner.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:51 PM
There is separate in seq_utils in contrib.
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:29 PM, David Sletten da...@bosatsu.net wrote:
I'm reading the Sequences chapter of Programming Clojure, and Stu
points out that split-with combines the semantics of take-while and
drop-while. But is there a function that
Which raises the question when will there be another release? The current
one is getting pretty wildly outdated. Also, I think a corresponding
release of contrib would be a good idea.
People just trying out Clojure are unlikely to want to mess with the
nightly builds, but all the libraries are
If these theories are correct (and I believe they are) then this is
an opportunity to beat the crap out these guys in head-to-head competition.
The Rails guys seem to have successfully broken into industry by being
better (relatively compared to Java/VB/C#). We can do the same thing if we
don't
It is pretty common to get a slowdown when moving from map to pmap. It just
means that the thread scheduling overhead is greater than the gain from
parallelizing the code. The behavior might be very different w/ larger data
sets, or w/ more CPU's. It is often best to leave parallelism as an
I took a brief glance at Joda. It appears they already use immutable
objects to a large degree. It looks like *exactly* the sort of library we
can just use out of the box, unwrapped.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org wrote:
Cosmin Stejerean cstejer...@gmail.com
Not exactly, but there is the IO! macro (see core.clj) that you can use to
mark your side effect generating code.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Joshua Fox joshuat...@gmail.com wrote:
Can Clojure generate warnings when a function has side effects,
particularly in transactions and other
This was to fix a bug where new code (generated by (eval ...)) would never
get garbage collected and crashed some programs that used eval heavily. The
JVM has a limitation that it will never GC a loaded class, but can GC a
collection of classes referenced by a single classloader.
On Wed, Mar 4,
as necessary -- or is the
number of created classloaders so significant as to hit some serious
limitation?
- Chas
On Mar 4, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Jeffrey Straszheim wrote:
Many people consider the use of eval in normal code to be bad
style. However, there are times when it is justified
Access to the previous value is an interesting idea. I'm thinking of
putting together a lib where all updates are collection into
transactions (which would run *inside* of Clojure transactions, but
would have their own semantics also). Something like this:
(update-model
(update x 3)
I've actually been looking at Rete. However, for my present purposes
I want something that just does computation dependency graphs. Rete
is way heavier than I'm currently thinking.
On Mar 3, 8:12 am, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mar 2, 10:41 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff
I've actually been looking at Rete. However, for my present purposes
I want something that just does computation dependency graphs. Rete
is way heavier than I'm currently thinking.
On Mar 3, 8:12 am, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mar 2, 10:41 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff
I'm pretty sure I don't want an agent based model. I want clear
transactional semantics. However, there is no reason both should not
exist.
On Mar 3, 9:11 am, Anand Patil anand.prabhakar.pa...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mar 3, 1:04 pm, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is
anand.prabhakar.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mar 3, 3:38 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm pretty sure I don't want an agent based model. I want clear
transactional semantics. However, there is no reason both should not
exist.
I think you can get solid
There are a lot of toy cells implementations for Clojure, but as far as I
can tell none of them are really full-production ready libraries like K.
Tilton's. I'm planning on starting a GUI based project and something cell's
like would be very helpful. I may end up building it myself, and am
I've seen the term skyhook used to describe a very similar system. In any
event, it looks cool.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:24 AM, linh nguyenlinh.m...@gmail.com wrote:
thanks, this will be very useful for me
On 27 Feb, 09:05, Itay Maman itay.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
Some of the reaction for
partial is a currying function. It can be provided any number of
parameter(s), but it is always behaves sequentially from start to finish.
That is what currying *is*.
You can easily partially apply to other arguments by doing this: #(fred %1
some-arg %2 other-arg).
partial could not easily
I always end up doing (filter identity '(:fred :mary nil :sue))
(remove nil? ...) is actually more clear. I'll try to remember that.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Timothy Pratley
timothyprat...@gmail.comwrote:
user= (remove nil? '(:a nil nil :b :a))
(:a :b :a)
On Feb 25, 2:38 pm, Sean
Does the stuff in error kit work across thread boundaries. I'm thinking,
for instance, if you run a computation using pmap, the individual
computations are run inside of Java futures, which will propagate exceptions
back to the caller when the caller gets the value. So, pmap should work
fairly
I really like the close it as the last item in the sequence trick. Sadly,
I don't see how it can be made exception safe.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Stuart Sierra
the.stuart.sie...@gmail.comwrote:
On Feb 25, 8:29 am, Meikel Brandmeyer m...@kotka.de wrote:
That's interesting. I almost
Is there any reason they cannot be implemented as structs with some sort of
type tag?
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Konrad Hinsen
konrad.hin...@laposte.netwrote:
I have just added a new library to clojure.contrib. It provides a
proof-of-concept implementation of algebraic data types. An
If in namespace one I define
(defmulti fred dispatch-fred)
and have imported that ns into another, can I just do
(defmethod fred ::val [x] ),
or do I need to scope the method name?
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Jeffrey Straszheim
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Does the stuff in error
Glad I could help.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:07 AM, bsmith.occs bsmith.o...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 23, 11:46 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff...@gmail.com
wrote:
Have you figured this out yet?
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Jeffrey Straszheim
straszheimjeff...@gmail.com
I look forward to it. A good pretty-printer would be very helpful in my
current work.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Tom Faulhaber tomfaulha...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm just a few days away from having announcing the first release of
my pretty printer (the pretty printer itself is working now,
.
There was a thread earlier about defining cyclic graphs in Clojure.
Can someone point me to it?
Thanks,
Cliff
On Feb 22, 7:55 am, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 22, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Jeffrey Straszheim wrote:
Just as a point of fact, I don't plan to make a complete *every
The identifier fibl is holding on to the head of the sequence.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:04 PM, bsmith.occs bsmith.o...@gmail.com wrote:
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;; using clojure.jar from source r1301
;;
;; I'm new to clojure and working
Have you figured this out yet?
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Jeffrey Straszheim
straszheimjeff...@gmail.com wrote:
The identifier fibl is holding on to the head of the sequence.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:04 PM, bsmith.occs bsmith.o...@gmail.comwrote
:
Jeffrey Straszheim wrote:
As part of my Datalog work I'm putting together some directed graph
algorithms, mostly things like finding strongly connected components,
and building dependency stratifications (think topological sort but with
the results groups in tiers of non-interdependent
The speed of the JVM's big ints, and therefore Clojure's, doesn't seem to be
competitive.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Raffael Cavallaro
raffaelcavall...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 23, 2:51 pm, Stephen C. Gilardi squee...@mac.com wrote:
The fibs implementation in
23, 6:38 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff...@gmail.com
wrote:
Well, right now I'm just handling directed graphs, and basically treating
nodes as integer indexes, with a simple formula from index to adjacency
list
of nodes.
I would actually like to see an implementation that more
Does zero arguments return #{} ?
Has intersection changed?
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Frantisek Sodomka fsodo...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello! Just a quick note:
Issue 52: Make set/union accept any number of arguments
http://code.google.com/p/clojure/issues/detail?id=52
seems to be solved
francesco.bell...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
Francesco
On Feb 22, 2:59 am, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff...@gmail.com
wrote:
As part of my Datalog work I'm putting together some directed graph
algorithms, mostly things like finding strongly connected components, and
building dependency
As part of my Datalog work I'm putting together some directed graph
algorithms, mostly things like finding strongly connected components, and
building dependency stratifications (think topological sort but with the
results groups in tiers of non-interdependent nodes). Anyhow, I'm thinking
this
I have a toy version of Datalog working now here:
http://code.google.com/p/clojure-datalog/
By toy I mean it works but is incredibly slow and wasteful. I would not
use it in a production system.
Real Datalog is coming, but I'm now doing research regarding the correct
approach.
Note, that
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:49 PM, David Nolen dnolen.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Ah the power of Clojure ;) The fact that (almost?) anything can be a key is
a pretty liberating thing.
It is truly an amazing ability.
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It would be pretty easy to wrap an agent (as pmf suggests) to notify your
model class if a Vector changes. You could then do something like
(map = old_vec new_vec)
And then look for false results in the array and send a notification to
Swing.
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Rowdy Rednose
As far as I can tell, futures are *not* agents, but wrap the
java.util.concurrent.Future class. However, they do run in the same thread
pool that the agents use, so your point still stands.
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Mark Volkmann r.mark.volkm...@gmail.comwrote:
The doc string for the
If your CLJ files are in the classpath, and you include clojure.jar, then
your good.
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:30 AM, rob r.p.l...@gmail.com wrote:
What do you mean when you say there is no need to compile your program
to distribute it? Doesn't that require end users to set up a clojure
The OO folks call this an internal iterator or visitor. However, I'd
recommend against adopting their point of view.
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:12 AM, BerlinBrown berlin.br...@gmail.comwrote:
This is a general termingology question. What is this idiom, called
where you pass a function as an
There have been some major changes in the last week or so. See
http://clojure.org/lazy for a brief overview.
Also: http://blog.n01se.net/?p=39
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Rock rocco.ro...@gmail.com wrote:
After watching Rich's video presentations and reading Stuart's fine
book, I was
it
and having to diff 2 complete collections later... But I don't have an
idea on how to do this in Clojure.
On Feb 20, 11:15 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff...@gmail.com
wrote:
It would be pretty easy to wrap an agent (as pmf suggests) to notify your
model class if a Vector changes. You
section. It
implements the system found in The Reasoned Schemer.
On Feb 18, 2:59 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff...@gmail.com
wrote:
Did you cover logic programming? Any bottom up logic query techniques?
(My motives are probably transparent.)
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Joshua
The Clojure collections are immutable, which is their entire reason for
existing. However, there is nothing stopping you from creating a plain old
Java collection in Clojure.
(let [list (ArrayList. '(Fred mary sue)]
(do
(java.util.Collections/sort list)
list))
Should work.
On Fri, Feb
It is worth looking at.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Telman Yusupov use...@yusupov.com wrote:
Could this be of any help for your development? There is now a version
of Datalog for PLT Scheme:
Software:
http://planet.plt-scheme.org/display.ss?package=datalog.pltowner=jaymccarthy
I see nothing in his code or documentation for handling negation or
stratification. Also, it appears to be a top down evaluator, and I don't
see any fixed-point or other recursion handling. I *suspect* this does not
guarantee termination over arbitrary safe rules. It is not real Datalog.
On
Creating a small object like that is cheap on the JVM. There are much
better places to put optimization effort.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Michel Salim michel.syl...@gmail.comwrote:
On Feb 18, 3:17 am, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
2009/2/18 CuppoJava
each tuple that has a Z in janet, and also remove any
tuple where XY fails. The resulting X,Y would be projected as relation
fred.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 9, 8:46 am, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff...@gmail.com
wrote:
No, but I'm
Did you cover logic programming? Any bottom up logic query techniques?
(My motives are probably transparent.)
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Joshua jhaw...@gmail.com wrote:
I am currently in a masters level Compiler class. We have a final
project for the class and I was wondering if there
Easy enough to do. The only drawback is I'd probably want to force it into
a hash during the query. For large datasets (say 100,000 records) this
might get expensive.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 18, 3:51 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim
Makes sense. That would work. It certainly looks cleaner.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 18, 4:32 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim straszheimjeff...@gmail.com
wrote:
Easy enough to do. The only drawback is I'd probably want to force
I like that. It makes it clear what is a monad, and what is not.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Konrad Hinsen konrad.hin...@laposte.netwrote:
The latest Clojure version broke many of my code by introducing the
function sequence whose name collided with my sequence monad. So I
decided that
The Common Lisp and Scheme books suggested are great, of course,
particularly _On Lisp_. However, I think learning CL or Scheme is an
awfully roundabout way to learn Clojure.
I think we should really be pushing the Pragmatic book. It is good and gets
the user to Clojure in a straight line.
On
I'm still not *entirely* clear about the mappings from symbols and
namespaces to Vars. I think I sort of understand how it works in practical
terms, but this is a confusing area and getting the terminology nailed down
would be a big help.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Chouser
http://clojure.org/lazy
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:54 PM, wubbie sunj...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I read a few messages on the new version.
Could someone summarize the changes and the motivation
behind?
Thanks,
sun
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Not shameless ... you took the time to write it. It is on-topic. It should
be shared. :)
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Chouser chou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Jeffrey Straszheim
straszheimjeff...@gmail.com wrote:
http://clojure.org/lazy
Also: http
I'd vote for the breaking changes. We don't have so much code written that
it cannot be fixed.
However, this depends on the book in production. Having _Programming
Clojure_ come out with incompatible code would be a big blow, I think.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Mibu mibu.cloj...@gmail.com
You're right, of course, but in life compromises must happen. If Rich
proceeds *with no regard* for Pragmatic's needs, they have a recourse which
is simply no Clojure book. Or a Clojure book that has broken examples.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM, wlr geeked...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding
Isn't that second url just the normal one for contrib trunk?
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Stuart Sierra the.stuart.sie...@gmail.com
wrote:
I created a lazy branch of clojure-contrib to track patches to contrib
that are needed in the lazy branch of Clojure.
For clojure-contrib hackers:
Good. I was worried I'd be forced over to the Lazy branch before I was
ready. :)
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Stephen C. Gilardi squee...@mac.comwrote:
On Feb 16, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Jeffrey Straszheim wrote:
Isn't that second url just the normal one for contrib trunk?
Yes, you should
Awesome!
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, dmiller dmiller2...@gmail.com wrote:
[I thought I'd slip this in while Rich has everyone distracted lazy
sequences.]
What do you do when you love Lisp, are intrigued by Clojure, but have
absolutely no projects at hand to test it out? Oh, and you
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