Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-28 Thread Hi-tech Robert
Hi, I had ran into similar problems as yours before. I solved them by removing Leiningen from my computer completely and using the Nightcode IDE (https://nightcode.info) instead as it has an integrated Leiningen. The best thing about Nightcode is that it has integrated templates which can make

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-28 Thread Mike
You guys are so funny...for a real challenge try to get any clojure-clr environment up and useable on Win anything. Nightcode is close, but there are still some interesting things you have to do. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To p

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-27 Thread Mikera
My personal experience with using Clojure on Windows has been pretty good - but that's largely because I've sidestepped Leiningen and instead used Eclipse with the fantastic Counterclockwise plugin. I like having a proper integrated IDE, the CCW REPL is great (much better than the standard Cloj

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-27 Thread Fluid Dynamics
On Monday, October 27, 2014 7:07:52 PM UTC-4, blake wrote: > > I think it's a recent thing, FWIW:​ I've installed Clojure with lein.bat > on several Windows (and Linux) machines with no difficulty. It's been truly > wonderful, especially after wrestling with Ruby (and other Open Source) > instal

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-27 Thread blake
I think it's a recent thing, FWIW:​ I've installed Clojure with lein.bat on several Windows (and Linux) machines with no difficulty. It's been truly wonderful, especially after wrestling with Ruby (and other Open Source) installations for years. I'm sure there's room for improvement; I'm just addi

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-27 Thread Andy Fingerhut
I hope I am not pre-announcing things before they've been tested to work, or misinterpreting work that is going on now, but it appears that Leiningen folks are fixing Windows-specific issues as this conversation is taking place (perhaps due to this conversation taking place). https://github.com/te

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-27 Thread Sean Corfield
On Oct 25, 2014, at 8:20 AM, Geoff Caplan wrote: > I've worked on Open Source projects myself and realise the realities. But > this is a big project, and ignoring the needs of new Windows users is surely > hurting it significantly? If this was prioritised, I suspect someone could be > found to

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-26 Thread Plínio Balduino
I'm using Win 7 with Clj 1.6 and 1.7-alphas and the last version of Leiningen, without any problem. My team is using a similar configuration (+ lightrable, sublime or Emacs) to develop some company systems. Could you share the error message, if any? Regards Plinio Balduino > On 25/10/2014,

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-26 Thread TP
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Geoff Caplan wrote: > I'm pretty fluent in bash but have never had a need for the Windoze shell > except for the odd ping and .bat file, and I'd got into the habit of > running .bats by double-clicking. But there does seem to be a lack of focus > and coordination

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-26 Thread Geoff Caplan
Hi folks Impressed that you've responded to my grumpy old man act so constructively - many thanks! Stu - I was aware that I could run the REPL without Leiningen - the Minimal Install section is pretty clear. But there didn't seem much point in having Clojure without any access to the build to

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Stuart Halloway
Hi Geoff, What path from clojure.org led you to believe that leiningen was necessary to run Clojure? I would be happy to fix the docs. The instructions at http://clojure.org/getting_started should have you up and running with Clojure on Windows in no time. Stu On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:17 AM,

Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread VaedaStrike
Try just going through light table. I'd long had problems trying to go through Windows. But when I installed light table I had no problems at all. I owe my present job to light table :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Colin Fleming
One of my goals with Cursive was to make this very thing easier, since lein on Windows does seem to be fraught with peril for newcomers and those not accustomed to the command line. Cursive, like CCW, bundles lein to avoid this sort of pain. Unfortunately I've been lazy and there is one critical pi

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Kevin Ilchmann Jørgensen
Right, current lein-win-installer works if the the user has wget installed, the logic to fallback on curl is flawed. The newer lein.bat ( https://raw.githubusercontent.com/technomancy/leiningen/master/bin/lein.bat) works with regard to the wget/curl fallback. but fails on self-install here. C:

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread David Powell
oh, sorry, yeah, I meant curl :) On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Kevin Ilchmann Jørgensen < kijm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey David, > > Does it really provide wget? I got an curl here. > > /Kevin > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:52 PM, David Powell > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I wrote the leininge

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Kevin Ilchmann Jørgensen
Hey David, Does it really provide wget? I got an curl here. /Kevin On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:52 PM, David Powell wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote the leiningen installer for Windows. It was working. > It simply downloads lein.bat from Leinignen stable, and provides a working > wget, and configures

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread David Powell
Hi, I wrote the leiningen installer for Windows. It was working. It simply downloads lein.bat from Leinignen stable, and provides a working wget, and configures things. I'm not sure what is going on, but for some reason "call" was added in certain places in the bat file in 2.5.0, and this seems

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Herwig Hochleitner
I'd like to chime in with my view on the experiences, that clojure and haskell provide, respectively, if only to highlight some of the upshots. Clojure has been staying very true to its perception as a "hosted language". This caters to my needs very well, because I've found in every real project,

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Luc Préfontaine
Microsoft not wanting to confuse the end user ?!?!?!? I am baffled :))) Luc P. > I'll take a wild guess and say the "flashing" properly is a console with a > message Microsoft don't want to confuse you with. > > That said, the message i get here, is that wget is missing. Leiningen ships > with

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Kevin Ilchmann Jørgensen
I'll take a wild guess and say the "flashing" properly is a console with a message Microsoft don't want to confuse you with. That said, the message i get here, is that wget is missing. Leiningen ships with curl.exe. Not knowing any bat syntax at all, i was enable to get lein.bat downloading by u

RE: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Phillip Lord
stuff, that means you can type "clojure" and get to the prompt. From: clojure@googlegroups.com [clojure@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Geoff Caplan [ghcap...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 October 2014 15:17 To: clojure@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Demor

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Alex Miller
Hey Geoff, I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you bringing a detailed walkthrough of your experience and the pain points here. It certainly highlights some obstacles and things that can be better. I will be discussing this more with other people at Cognitect and I would like to make

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Andy Fingerhut
Geoff: Just to verify your experience, I tried installing Leiningen on a Windows 7 machine I had handy. When you say "Dug around the git site and found a recent .bat file that's supposed to work with the latest Leiningen 2. Again, the shell flashed and crashed." It sounds like you double-clicked

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Geoff Caplan
Hi Andy Thanks for the moderate and reasoned response! I've worked on Open Source projects myself and realise the realities. But this is a big project, and ignoring the needs of new Windows users is surely hurting it significantly? If this was prioritised, I suspect someone could be found to

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Andy Fingerhut
Geoff: I hesitated before replying, because I was concerned that anything I could say other than "we'll get right on that" will sound at best like an excuse, or at its worst like a dismissal. The tone I am hoping to achieve here is a neutral factual explanation. Please try to read it that way.

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Geoff Caplan
Thanks for the tips, Jony - I've finally made it. Here's the contrast between setting up Haskell and setting up Clojure: *HASKELL* 1) Go to the homepage and download the Haskell Platform as an .exe 2) Install and use *CLOJURE* 1) Go to the homepage and discover I have to go to the Leiningen si

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Tobias Kortkamp
I've changed the Leiningen installer, so that it uses wget instead of curl. That should fix the problems you were having. I've only only tested this on my Windows 7 VM, so please try it out. Download it here: https://github.com/t6/leiningen-win-installer/releases -- You received this message b

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Sven Richter
Hi, Just as Jony said and I tried to make clear, there is an relativ easy way to get started (I did this a few hours ago on a new W7 installation) 1. set JAVA_HOME path 2. Download: leiningen-win-installer-1.0 from http://leiningen-win-installer.djpowell.net/ 3. Download wget from http://gnuwin3

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Jony Hudson
I recently installed leiningen on some Windows machines, with success, although there was a little bit of fiddling. I used the .bat approach. Did you manage to note the error message that the .bat generated when it crashed? That would be the first step (i.e. run it from a command prompt window

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Laurent PETIT
If you're not an Eclipse fan, note that there's also the Cursive IDE. It's based on IntelliJ IDEA. As far as I know, it does not - yet - come as a standalone product, but I'm sure it's pretty easy to install the community edition first, and then install the Cursive plugin on top of it following th

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Geoff Caplan
> > Hi folks > Thanks for the suggestions! 1. Sven - yes, I have the SDK for Java 8 and JAVA_HOME is set correctly 2. Divyansh - thanks - Clooj works on my box, but as you say it's hardly a long-term solution... 3. Phillip - I've tried the installer, as I said, but it doesn't work.

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Laurent PETIT
Counterclockwise/Standalone requires only java 7 or 8 as a pre-requisite. Then it's just a download/unzip/start process : http://doc.ccw-ide.org/documentation.html#install-as-standalone-product It bundles leiningen 2014-10-25 3:44 GMT+02:00 Geoff Caplan : > Hi > > Wanting to get Clojure runni

RE: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Phillip Lord
] Sent: 25 October 2014 02:44 To: clojure@googlegroups.com Subject: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7 Hi Wanting to get Clojure running on a Win 7 machine with no diskspace for dual boot. It's been a demoralising experience. I tried the Win installer linked from the Leiningen web

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-25 Thread Divyansh Prakash
I know this is not a real solution, but you can download Clooj and get started right away. It's a pretty decent environment, and you can use it till you have a proper install. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-24 Thread Sven Richter
Hi, I experience one problem too with leining 2.5.0 (not sure if it happened before already). The upgrade to leiningen 2.5.0 from 2.4.x was broken. The same happened yesterday when I tried to install leiningen in a new environment on windows 7. Not sure what the exact output of leiningen during

Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

2014-10-24 Thread Geoff Caplan
Hi Wanting to get Clojure running on a Win 7 machine with no diskspace for dual boot. It's been a demoralising experience. I tried the Win installer linked from the Leiningen website. It failed to download the Leiningen 1 jar - the shell simply flashed open and crashed. Dug around the git site