Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2014-01-20 Thread Tom Faulhaber
On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:38:23 AM UTC-8, Brenton wrote: If you are looking for something that is finished and stable then do not look at Pedestal. We will indicate stability with version numbers. When you see a release of version 1.0 then you may want to have another look. A 1.0

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-12-21 Thread Murtaza Husain
(a clojure/script data type) to the DOM. It seems that all 3 Projects could use react.js because: *react.js is the immediate mode abstraction over the retained mode dom*(Chris Granger) Does Pedestal have a future in the long run? I hope that pedestal will be simple, and open to a solution to use

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-12-20 Thread Thomas Deutsch
because: *react.js is the immediate mode abstraction over the retained mode dom*(Chris Granger) Does Pedestal have a future in the long run? I hope that pedestal will be simple, and open to a solution to use react.js or any immediate mode abstraction lib that will come along. -- -- You received

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-19 Thread Geraldo Lopes de Souza
As for UI. Isnt reactjs (facebook renderer library) a good fit for pedestal ? it appears to use the same ideas of webfui. Webfui's author even complimented reacjts guys for their work: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/reactjs/conrad/reactjs/e3bYersyd64/fH83IFqXb2oJ There are a

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-11 Thread Manuel Paccagnella
Very exaustive comment, that reminded me of a beautiful series of articles by Jacob Kaplan-Moss on Writing great documentationhttp://jacobian.org/writing/great-documentation/. There is a presentationhttp://pyvideo.org/video/403/pycon-2011--writing-great-documentation, too. Il giorno lunedì

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-11 Thread Brenton
I would like to clarify a few things. All of the comments below are about Pedestal app. Pedestal is a continuation of ClojureScript One. The reason that we didn't continue to commit changes to that project was because of all of the documentation. Pedestal has changed a lot from the beginning

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-11 Thread Manuel Paccagnella
Thank you for your explanation Brenton, makes a whole lot of sense. Now it's clear what the maturity level of Pedestal is: I'll way a little bit more before starting to bleed :) Il giorno lunedì 11 novembre 2013 15:38:23 UTC+1, Brenton ha scritto: I would like to clarify a few things. All

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-11 Thread Zubair Quraishi
As the author of another Clojure web framework, clojure on Coils ( https://github.com/zubairq/coils) I would say that Pedestal has got a very bright future ahead of it. Not only is it technically pretty amazing but the community behind it and the fact that it comes from the same team as the

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-11 Thread Mars0i
Thanks, Cedric, for insightful comments about documentation. I'll add that for me, if the only documentation is a video, I have to *really* want to learn about a programming tool to go any further. Videos don't allow you to take in information any faster than information at exactly the speed

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-10 Thread PublicFarley
I hope that this time around the Pedestal talk will be recorded. The lack of any nice recorded video talks discussing Pedestal has been an additional barrier to entry. - Farley -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-10 Thread Ryan Waters
Thank you Saravana. I'm finding a number of the posts David Nolen [1] has written on his blog to be invaluable. Once I figure out what mix of libraries I'll be using I can let you know! [1] http://swannodette.github.io/ On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Ryan Neufeld r...@cognitect.com wrote:

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-10 Thread Cedric Greevey
IMO it can often be a lack of readable, searchable, nice-to-navigate text/hypertext that can be a barrier to entry. In fact all of these are unfortunately common in various parts of the geekosphere: 1. Projects whose *only* documentation (or the only version of certain key information) is in

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-10 Thread Mark Engelberg
Recently, when I decided to investigate Pedestal for a project, I was surprised to discover that it isn't supported on Windows. I can't say whether lack of cross-platform support will have any impact on Pedestal's long-term viability, but it ruled Pedestal out for me. -- -- You received this

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-09 Thread Ryan Neufeld
Stuart Halloway is doing a presentation and we’ll be dumping a lot more new stuff into the repository. I made a mistake in saying we had an announcement, it’s more just that we’ll be talking more publicly about what we’re working on following next week. -Ryan  On November 8, 2013 at 5:39:34

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-08 Thread Ryan Neufeld
Shhh! Don't spill the beans. On Friday, November 8, 2013 1:02:36 AM UTC-5, Daniel wrote: I suspect Pedestal adoption will really take off once it has a well designed and advertised widget/ui toolkit. Just my two cents. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-08 Thread Andreas Liljeqvist
Will there by any presentation on Pedestal, or just announcements? On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Ryan Neufeld r...@thinkrelevance.comwrote: Speaking as a core Pedestal team member and engineer at Cognitect I can say we are *very* serious about continuing to grow and support Pedestal. It

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-08 Thread Ryan Waters
Pedestal-app and pedestal-service seem like they have a lot of solid design behind them and there's quite a few bright people that have put time into development and documentation. I don't doubt Cognitect's dedication to the project or their ability to derive productivity from it. I program in

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-08 Thread kovas boguta
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Marko Kocić ma...@euptera.com wrote: related with Pedestal. How serious Cognitect/Relevance is about it? There is a ton of activity in the repo. Looking forward to v3. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure

Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-07 Thread Marko Kocić
Hi all, I'd like to hear opinions about Pedestal from the people that have been playing more with it. Right now I started looking at it, and like some of the things, but not sure should I invest more time learning it. While I do like some concepts, I'm not sure is it going to became

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-07 Thread Andreas Liljeqvist
I sure hope it does. Not a master of it yet, but the concept seems very interesting. I know that there is a guy writing a book about it. Many of the other somewhat related technologies like Django are a completely different cognitive model. More tutorials would be great, also they should stress

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-07 Thread Marcus Blankenship
It seems like Congitect is heavily invested in it’s future, and committed to moving it forward. I suspect it will change significantly as adoption increases, but that will probably be a good thing. Clojure is still so new that it’s hard to know if there will be “one web framework to rule them

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-07 Thread Ryan Neufeld
Speaking as a core Pedestal team member and engineer at Cognitect I can say we are *very* serious about continuing to grow and support Pedestal. It may be quiet, but we're using the entirety of Pedestal with a number of client and are fervently preparing a number of new features and

Re: Does Pedestal have a future in the long run

2013-11-07 Thread Daniel
I suspect Pedestal adoption will really take off once it has a well designed and advertised widget/ui toolkit. Just my two cents. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note