Just downloaded and started with Clojure.
Is there a reason that cursor movement does not work in the REPL? I am used
that I can use up-cursor to execute an old commands again.
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or you can do this using lein https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen,
and start REPL via
lein repl
I will look into that also.
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(when ( difference 1.1755025E-38)
(println (format Different for %d (%e) i difference))
)))
But beside that this defines the two variables val and difference, it also
generates a lot of nil values.
What would be a better way to do this in Clojure?
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also
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That works. Thanks.
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2014-04-08 20:49 GMT+02:00 Toby Crawley to...@tcrawley.org:
Does this give you the results you are looking for?
(doall
(for [i (range 1 1000)
:let [val (Math/sqrt i
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2014-04-10 12:52 GMT+02:00 Kevin Ilchmann Jørgensen kijm...@gmail.com:
I believe this is how the terminal behave. You can force an
(clojure.core/flush)
But why does println not behave this way?
I think I stick to println for the moment.
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format string is %s: %s\n, so there is a newline, but it is
not acted upon.
2014-04-10 19:30 GMT+08:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
2014-04-10 12:52 GMT+02:00 Kevin Ilchmann Jørgensen kijm...@gmail.com:
I believe this is how the terminal behave. You can force an
(clojure.core
expect that both need a flush, or both do
not need a flush. (The second is in my opinion the better of the two.)
2014-04-10 19:50 GMT+08:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
2014-04-10 13:40 GMT+02:00 Di Xu xudi...@gmail.com:
there're three buffer mode in unix, line buffered, full
) and (* val val) be calculated in parallel?
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not understand, between finishing (check-concurrent2) and
getting back to the shell there is one minute. When calling only
(check-sequential) the script returns immediately back to the shell. Why
is this?
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I have
(shutdown-agents) and the delay is gone.
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2014-04-10 16:45 GMT+02:00 Andy Fingerhut andy.finger...@gmail.com:
Forcing small bits of computation to be done in parallel using the tools
Clojure and the JVM have at hand
to implement it better are
appreciated.
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Be aware that SimpleDateFormat is not threadsafe though.
What should I use instead of SimpleDateFormat then?
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(doseq [number threads]
(check-concurrent3 number))
Is this the right way to do things, or is there a better way?
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needed-times
But it looks a 'little' cumbersome. Is there a better way to do this?
Also if I need to use several points in time, do I keep nesting 'let',
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#(* % %) (range (Math/pow n 5)
(count (foo 10))
(defn timed-foo [times n]
(let [start (now)]
(foo n)
(conj times (- (now) start
(reduce timed-foo [] numbers) = [0 0 4 14]
I am going to look into this.
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2014-04-12 15:49 GMT+02:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
2014-04-12 15:06 GMT+02:00 Fergal Byrne fergalbyrnedub...@gmail.com:
or to convert your code to something more functional (and including defns
for now and foo):
(defn now [] (. System currentTimeMillis))
I already defined
sized, but you can measure your (now) using criterium.bench to be sure
.
OK, I'll look into a rewrite.
Also note that reduce in the last line is lazy by default, so ensure to
wrap it in a doall or vec to make it greedy.
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Is there also a possibility to get the load of a system? When the load is
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2014-04-12 16:51 GMT+02:00 Patrick Kristiansen patr...@patrkris.dk:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4759570/finding-number-of-cores-in-java
Thanks. I use now:
(. (. Runtime (getRuntime)) availableProcessors)
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I am
(getRuntime)))
(.availableProcessors runtime)
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Thanks. I use now
. How do you make a jar file with everything in it?
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milliseconds)
and I would like:
2 threads took6148 milliseconds
4 threads took3069 milliseconds
6 threads took2477 milliseconds
7 threads took2249 milliseconds
8 threads took2079 milliseconds
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Oh man, please consider using leiningen. It's a whole new world :-)
http://leiningen.org/
That was on my list. I'll leave this problem for the moment being then,
because it will be solved 'automatically'. :-D
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(- numbers
(reduce timed-foo [])
(map format-time)
println)
(- numbers
(reduce timed-foo [])
(map format-time
sized, but you can measure your (now) using criterium.bench to be sure.
The now function is not called often, so it does not really matter, but I
changed it anyway. As expected the time is the same, but good code is also
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2014-04-12 16:18 GMT+02:00 Fergal Byrne fergalbyrnedub...@gmail.com:
That's fine, but note that creating new Calendar objects has an overhead,
using System.currentTimeMillis() is a static OS call which
could be the reason that it makes the code faster? I find it even a
little bit strange, because the logging is only a small part of what I am
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you're trying to do to address it.
I just started playing with Clojure a few days ago, so I am a tabula
rasa. I attached what I have until now. If it can be improved, I like to
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: Leiningen is really a good tool. Only for that you could switch
to Clojure. ;-)
And another question: how would I
call the normal jar? Because when I do not distribute
the jar, it pays not to make the standalone jar. 33K or 3.5M is quite a
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Obvious not very neat, but I tried as a first hack to do something with the
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(doseq [type args]
This does not work. Why not?
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-main [ args]
(if args
(doseq [type args]
(println (format Got here with: %s type)
It behaved perfectly. When looking again at the code, I saw that my
brackets where out of place. Sorry for the noise.
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is not very important?
Formulated otherwise: no reason to switch from my original plan?
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I have a ‘little’ to learn. ;-) I have worked with a lot of languages,
including Lisp. I was thinking about the following books (in that order
: it gets your blood streaming. :-D
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I have a ‘little’ to learn. ;-) I have worked with a lot of languages,
including Lisp. I was thinking about the following books (in that order):
- Practical Clojure
- Clojure in Action
- The Joy of Clojure
- Clojure
2014-04-23 15:05 GMT+02:00 Stefan Kamphausen ska2...@gmail.com:
Would German be an option for you?
With what is available, not for me, but maybe for others it would.
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I heard the stand that functional programming made it difficult to write
secure programs. I do not know enough of functional programming yet to
determine the value of a statement like this. What is the take here about
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On 4 May 2014 19:33, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote:
I am mostly a back-end writer. I dabbled a little with Scala before going
to Clojure. (And more on the back-end as on the front-end.) But there was a
discussion (I do not remember if it was on a Java or Scala
2014-05-04 10:20 GMT+02:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
2014-05-04 10:09 GMT+02:00 Colin Fleming colin.mailingl...@gmail.com:
There's really no only way to do anything in Clojure, since you can
always drop down to Java interop. So anything that's available to Java is
available
on them.
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2014-05-04 10:09 GMT+02:00 Colin Fleming colin.mailingl...@gmail.com:
There's really no only way to do anything in Clojure, since you can
always
I think then. (I do not remember why Swing was
discouraged.) I have to look into the start-up time. I did not know about
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On 4 May 2014 08:24, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote:
I heard the stand that functional programming made it difficult to write
secure programs. I do not know enough of functional programming yet to
determine the value of a statement like this. What
them.
So ... it deppends :D
That is always the case of-course, but it was suggested that functional
programming made it inherently difficult.
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On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 09:24:08AM +0200, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
I heard the stand that functional programming made it difficult to
write secure programs. I do not know enough of functional
programming yet to determine
No, it was suggested that for secure programming you needed to do it
modular and that this was not possible with a functional language.
But off-course this is important also.
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even if you are not primarily a programmer,
without knowing more than one language.
Or Herbert Mayer:
No programming language is perfect.
There is not even a single best language;
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On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 09:24:08AM +0200, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
I heard
PM UTC-3, g vim wrote:
I have Clojure 1.6.0 installed so why does `lein new app myapp` default
to Clojure 1.5.1 inside project.clj? Even worse, `lein ancient upgrade
:all` doesn't return an upgrade for Clojure 1.5.1
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2014-05-05 8:21 GMT+02:00 Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org:
any language ;) However, choosing language wisely will allow you to
concentrate
. A FIPS
Would forced garbage collection not take care of that?
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it, it could be
different.
Any security related discussion
reaches a point were sanity is left
far behind don't you agree ? :)))
Better to paranoid as to easy going. But you need to be careful that you
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2014-07-08 16:55 GMT+02:00 John Gabriele jmg3...@gmail.com:
On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:40:54 AM UTC-4, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
In Clojure you can define a local constant with let, but I need a
variable (I think).
I want to do the following. I have a function that checks several things
2014-07-08 18:14 GMT+02:00 John Gabriele jmg3...@gmail.com:
On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 11:38:42 AM UTC-4, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
2014-07-08 16:55 GMT+02:00 John Gabriele jmg...@gmail.com:
On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:40:54 AM UTC-4, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
In Clojure you can define a local
2014-07-08 23:11 GMT+02:00 Bob Hutchison hutch-li...@recursive.ca:
On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com
wrote:
In Clojure you can define a local constant with let, but I need a
variable (I think).
I want to do the following. I have a function that checks
do this for variables that can be changed. So I
renamed some variables. Did I understand this correctly, or is the usage of
asterisks for something else?
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2014-07-09 2:24 GMT+02:00 Bruce Wang br...@brucewang.net:
You might want to check out this
https://github.com/quux00/land-of-lisp-in-clojure
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Hi Cecil,
You might want to check out this
https://github.com/quux00/land-of-lisp-in-clojure
Cheers,
Bruce
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I received the book land of lisp
2014-07-09 5:30 GMT+02:00 John Mastro john.b.mas...@gmail.com:
Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote:
- The book displays all the lines of a look on separate lines. In my
case it is just one long line. Am I doing something wrong?
No, you're not doing anything wrong. There's nothing
2014-07-09 4:19 GMT+02:00 Bob Hutchison hutch-li...@recursive.ca:
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2014-07-08 23:11 GMT+02:00 Bob Hutchison hutch-li...@recursive.ca:
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2014-07-09 9:39 GMT+02:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
Or you could use a definition of look more like this, which uses println
to print each item on its own line (not sure if you wanted to retain the
parens or not, but both are easily doable).
(defn look []
(doseq [d
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Or you could use a definition of look more like this, which uses println
to print each item on its own line (not sure if you wanted to retain the
parens
)
and with:
('bucket object-locations)
Personally I find the first better, but ‘Clojure Programming' uses the
second possibility. What is the better way and why?
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a HashMap. But
better save as sorry. I will change it.
On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 3:48:53 PM UTC+2, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
When you have:
(def object-locations {
'whiskey 'living-room
'bucket'living-room
'chain 'garden
'frog 'garden
'dummy
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When you have:
(def object-locations {
'whiskey 'living-room
'bucket'living-room
'chain 'garden
'frog 'garden
'dummy 'nowhere
'test 'nowhere
})
You can retrieve the location of the bucket
.)
And it is displayed as:
You see a whiskey on the floor.
You see a bucket on the floor.
Maybe it does not work in all cases: so I need to do some testing.
Let change the rest also to keywords.
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2014-07-09 17:18 GMT+02:00
2014-07-09 17:50 GMT+02:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
2014-07-09 17:32 GMT+02:00 Timothy Baldridge tbaldri...@gmail.com:
(name :foo)
will return the name as a string
(symbol (name :foo))
Converts the name of the keyword to a symbol
It is not even necessary. I changed
are. So it has a
side effect. But most of my functions have this. So, should I append them
all with a '!'?
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. In the book the where talking about
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When a function returns a true/false value you should end it with a '?'.
Clojure Programming says that with side
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On Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:28:26 PM UTC+2, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
When a function returns a true/false value you should end it with a '?'.
Clojure Programming says that with side effects you should end the
function name
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2014-07-10 18:34 GMT+02:00 Plínio Balduino pbal...@gmail.com:
IMO, ! is used when change any global state. A side effect like print on
screen is not enough
effect (a pgm will eventually use it), writing
to
a database, ... qualify.
Then writing to a log file should qualify also. And as I understand it, it
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2014-07-10 19:10 GMT+02:00 Softaddicts lprefo...@softaddicts.ca:
but as I understood from others it is not about side-effects, but global
state.
as James
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.)]
:dummy ['(Only for testing purposes.)]
})
Because this is only accessed sequential, I would think it would be more
efficient as a list then as a vector. (It is certainly less work to enter.)
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and
(int (inc (aget intArr index)))
Because of the class of those values is Long. Why are those not Integer?
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2014-08-05 19:04 GMT+02:00 Thomas Heller th.hel...@gmail.com:
If you don't need the result of the for loop (which you don't in your
example) use doseq.
Same syntax as for but not lazy and no return value (well, nil to be
exact)
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On 5 August 2014 at 19:43:21, Cecil Westerhof (cldwes...@gmail.com)
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Because of the class of those values is Long. Why are those not
Integer?
To avoid the performance penalty of automatic promotion. In dynamically
typed languages
with auto-promotion
[10 100 1000 2000 5000 1]]
I still have a lot to learn, but I certainly like the expressiveness of
clojure.
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com
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2014-08-05 19:04 GMT+02:00 Thomas Heller th.hel...@gmail.com:
If you don't need the result
I am far from an expert on Clojure, but I am thinking about giving a talk
about it on an Open Source event.
Any tips about what to treat and what not to treat?
I will have about 45 minutes.
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, is there someone who has done something like this? What are the
questions to expect. Then I can prepare myself.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com
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I am far from an expert on Clojure, but I am thinking about giving a talk
about it on an Open Source event
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com
wrote:
I am far from an expert on Clojure, but I am thinking about giving a
talk about it on an Open Source event.
Any tips about what to treat and what not to treat?
I will have about 45 minutes.
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librarty with its own dsl, you have to learn new language?
- How does new people adopts in your command?
- What is production use of Clojure?
That's all I remember.
Thanks: that is very useful.
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did your presentation take?
2014-08-21 13:39 GMT+03:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
2014-08-21 12:33 GMT+02:00 Serzh Nechyporchuk nechyporc...@gmail.com:
I can give you my presentation about Clojure. I have several questions:
- (classic) parenthesis
- How do you model your
if
there is interest for that.
The presentation took about 45 minutes. But with questions it took about
one hour.
Should be doable then.
Thanks again.
I am flabbergasted how useful this newsgroup is. :-D
2014-08-21 14:26 GMT+03:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
2014-08-21 12:49
practices in order to avoid
gotchas.
Sadly I fell more as once in the error of not taking into account that
certain things are lazy. :'-(
Thanks. New things to think about. :-D
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There are a lot of good (or so I am told) CLISP books. For example:
“Paradigms Of Artificial Intelligence Programming Case Studies In Common
Lisp”.
Would they be useful for learning Clojure, or is the difference to big?
I should at least have http://clojure.org/lisps handy. ;-)
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is the best Clojure
library for this. But it does not handle LinkedIn.
What is the best way to use Clojure to post on Facebook, LinkedIn and
Twitter?
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2014-10-29 14:46 GMT+01:00 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
A long time I wrote a Bash script to post on Facebook by sending emails
and a PHP script to post on Twitter with OAuth2.
I find them lacking and I also want to post on LinkedIn. I thought it was
a good project to learn more
)
Why?
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the best way to do this?
Later on I probably should use clojure.math.numeric-tower.
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