Re: [ANN] cpython bindings for clojure
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Re: Closure lang for newbies in 2019
Clojure is only a few years older than Elixr. I'd recommend https://www.braveclojure.com/ as a great online book/tutorial as a starting point. Enjoy! RIck On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 4:02 PM Matching Socks wrote: > Clojure is pretty simple. It works well. And nothing in it has ever been > deprecated. In short, do not worry about finding a very new resource. > What kind of project would you like to start out with? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- [image: chartbeat-gmail-...@2x.png] Rick Mangi Senior Director of Data Engineering Chartbeat 917.848.3619 | @rmangi | r...@chartbeat.com 826 Broadway, 6th Fl., New York, NY 10003 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: New developments in beginner-friendly editing/repl environments?
Yeah, I actually just create projects with lein. If you right click on a project.clj you can just fire up a repl via lein and it works really well. There's 3 choices for parenthesis, there's again a little button on the bottom right to switch between parinfer/paredit and off. You can customize all of the code reformatting and you can even alias things like defnp and other macros to evaluate correctly. That said, a tool that supports dozens of languages isn't going to do any of them particularly easily :) On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:18 AM 'Lee' via Clojure wrote: > Thanks Rick. > > Just tried Cursive again but it still seems to fail pretty badly on newbie > setup and usability, which is what has hung me up in the past. > > tldr: A half hour or so after a fresh install and going through the > Getting Started instructions I still don't have a REPL (confused about Run > Configurations and what I'm seeing doesn't match the website pics), and > although I can edit code in an existing project with drag and drop (can't > yet create a project with a core.clj), even the "Structural Off" editing > mode behaves oddly and doesn't appear to support structure-aware > re-indentation (again, unless I'm missing it). And the indentation that it > prefers after a newline appears to be non-standard (e.g. after "(defn foo"). > > I follow the Cursive mailing list and I know that a lot of people find it > to be a wonderful tool, but I don't think it meets my requirements. > > -Lee > > > On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 10:43:36 AM UTC-4, Rick Mangi wrote: >> >> I find intellij + cursive to be pretty darn easy to use, and the repl has >> an option to turn off parinfer. That said, I'm not a beginner. The only >> drawback that I can think of other than price is that the clojure >> functionality is mostly put under a single menu and it's sometimes awkward >> to navigate to subcommands. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 9:48 AM Alex Miller wrote: >> >>> I think Atom and VSCode are probably the two additional ones you might >>> want to look into? >>> >>> On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 8:45:34 AM UTC-5, Lee wrote: >>>> >>>> This is my roughly-annual check-in to see if there are new good >>>> editing/execution options for me to use in my Clojure teaching and coding. >>>> >>>> My requirements are: >>>> >>>> - Simple installation/setup, even for new programmers, on Mac/Win/Linux >>>> >>>> - Usable by new programmers without significant training or learning >>>> curve >>>> >>>> - Syntax-aware re-indentation >>>> >>>> - Visual indication of matching brackets (e.g. matching bracket >>>> highlighted, or rainbow brackets, etc.) >>>> >>>> - No required use of paredit or parinfer >>>> >>>> Bells and whistles that would help but aren't as critical as the >>>> requirements listed above: >>>> >>>> - Access to argument lists, documentation, and symbol completion while >>>> typing >>>> >>>> - Integrated REPL, although a command-line REPL paired with an editor >>>> that met the requirements above would work >>>> >>>> I would be interested in solutions that work for Clojure and >>>> Clojurescript, or just Clojure, or just Clojurescript. >>>> >>>> Recent developments of which I'm aware but fall short of my >>>> requirements: >>>> >>>> - Nightcode and Lightmod, which would be fabulous if not for the >>>> required use of parinfer >>>> >>>> - Jupyter-based approaches, which also seem great except I see none >>>> with syntax-aware re-indentation for Clojure >>>> >>>> FYI what I'm currently using is a combination of Gorilla REPL and >>>> leiningen at the command line. This is quite nice although >>>> installation/setup is not as easy or foolproof as I would like (I've had >>>> students who tried and failed to get it working on their Windows laptops >>>> for an entire semester, messing with Java versions etc.), Gorilla REPL is >>>> not very actively maintained, and the requirement to do some things at the >>>> command line isn't ideal. >>>> >>>> Options I've used in the past, which more-or-less met my requirements >>>> but are no longer viable, include Clooj, Nightcode (old versions, before >>>> parinfer), and Counterclockwise. >>>> >>>> I also try to keep an
Re: New developments in beginner-friendly editing/repl environments?
I find intellij + cursive to be pretty darn easy to use, and the repl has an option to turn off parinfer. That said, I'm not a beginner. The only drawback that I can think of other than price is that the clojure functionality is mostly put under a single menu and it's sometimes awkward to navigate to subcommands. On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 9:48 AM Alex Miller wrote: > I think Atom and VSCode are probably the two additional ones you might > want to look into? > > On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 8:45:34 AM UTC-5, Lee wrote: >> >> This is my roughly-annual check-in to see if there are new good >> editing/execution options for me to use in my Clojure teaching and coding. >> >> My requirements are: >> >> - Simple installation/setup, even for new programmers, on Mac/Win/Linux >> >> - Usable by new programmers without significant training or learning curve >> >> - Syntax-aware re-indentation >> >> - Visual indication of matching brackets (e.g. matching bracket >> highlighted, or rainbow brackets, etc.) >> >> - No required use of paredit or parinfer >> >> Bells and whistles that would help but aren't as critical as the >> requirements listed above: >> >> - Access to argument lists, documentation, and symbol completion while >> typing >> >> - Integrated REPL, although a command-line REPL paired with an editor >> that met the requirements above would work >> >> I would be interested in solutions that work for Clojure and >> Clojurescript, or just Clojure, or just Clojurescript. >> >> Recent developments of which I'm aware but fall short of my requirements: >> >> - Nightcode and Lightmod, which would be fabulous if not for the required >> use of parinfer >> >> - Jupyter-based approaches, which also seem great except I see none with >> syntax-aware re-indentation for Clojure >> >> FYI what I'm currently using is a combination of Gorilla REPL and >> leiningen at the command line. This is quite nice although >> installation/setup is not as easy or foolproof as I would like (I've had >> students who tried and failed to get it working on their Windows laptops >> for an entire semester, messing with Java versions etc.), Gorilla REPL is >> not very actively maintained, and the requirement to do some things at the >> command line isn't ideal. >> >> Options I've used in the past, which more-or-less met my requirements but >> are no longer viable, include Clooj, Nightcode (old versions, before >> parinfer), and Counterclockwise. >> >> I also try to keep an eye on "high-end" IDEs like Emacs and Cursive, but >> so far haven't found any that really meet my requirements for simple >> installation/setup and usability for beginners. >> >> Any pointers would be very much appreciated! >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Lee >> >> -- >> Lee Spector, Professor of Computer Science >> Director, Institute for Computational Intelligence >> Hampshire College, Amherst, Massachusetts, 01002, USA >> lspec...@hampshire.edu, http://hampshire.edu/lspector/, 413-559-5352 >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Best Book for Clojure
They also have an online version for free. It's a great book. https://www.braveclojure.com/ On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:25 AM Ashima Athri wrote: > Just to provide my experience in case someone else wanders across this > post and finds it helpful, I'm currently reading "Clojure for the Brave and > True" and find it a fun and fast read, especially as the examples have > equivalents in JS and Ruby which I'm comfortable with. I think it's a good > introduction to the language and sets me up to read more in-depth books > like Clojure Programming which is next on my reading list. Although as > someone else mentioned, zombies and vampires might not be your cup of tea > (or coffee) :D > > - Ashima > > On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:44:55 UTC-4, pbi...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I want to buy a book. >> Which is the best book for clojure? >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Bazel as Clojure build tool
Next time you have to write unit tests for java, give groovy a try. It has a lot of features that make this easy, 1 line map construction, overriding of private methods, super easy to make mocks. There's definitely some weird syntax, and it's slow, but I'm fine using it for glue or scripting. On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:48 PM Gregg Reynolds wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:44 PM Rick Mangi wrote: > >> Believe it or not, I actually like groovy a lot. I used to use it to >> write unit tests for java code. It's very easy to learn. >> > > Will wonders never cease? I had to learn a bit of groovy a while back > while dealing with Gradle, and came to hate it. Maybe I just have a bad > attitude - I blame Clojure! > >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:40 PM Gregg Reynolds wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:30 PM wrote: >>> >>>> ... >>> >>>> We're starting to lean towards gradle >>>> >>> >>> You do understand that that means you have to deal with groovy? ;) >>> >>> Fwiw I've been working with Bazel a lot lately and I would never go back. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>> your first post. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Clojure" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Bazel as Clojure build tool
Believe it or not, I actually like groovy a lot. I used to use it to write unit tests for java code. It's very easy to learn. On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:40 PM Gregg Reynolds wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:30 PM wrote: > >> ... > >> We're starting to lean towards gradle >> > > You do understand that that means you have to deal with groovy? ;) > > Fwiw I've been working with Bazel a lot lately and I would never go back. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
