Re: Clojure Office Hours - Experience Report and Future Plans
For the in-person variety, I've written up some thoughts on why office hours are a good format for meetups, and ideas on the underlying processes: http://blog.factual.com/clojure-office-hours. On Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:44:08 PM UTC-7, Leif wrote: This message is aimed at people that want to *hold* office hours primarily, but of course others can chime in with opinions, suggestions, cheerleading, etc. I recently held office hours where I chatted / pair programmed with less experienced clojure programmers (some were in fact more experienced). Lessons learned: 1. It's fun! Do it! Online like me, or convince your local clojure user group to do it. 2. As I expected, I was more help to less experienced people, but learned a lot *from* the others, and hopefully I was at least useful as a sounding board. 3. An hour is less time than it sounds. 4. If possible, test your pair programming setup beforehand (see point 3 above) a) corollary: if someone is asking about a library that takes some setup, it's probably best if *they* do the setup and host the pairing session. 5. Any remote sharing software (tmux, teamviewer, etc) will mangle *some* input. Be prepared to work around that. 6. Educate people how to cancel, and to cancel ASAP, since some will inevitably need to. 7. For beginners (at clojure, but not programming), pick a specific problem and work through it, or have a solution and explain it step-by-step; that seemed to work best. Code review of some OSS project they are interested in might also work, I didn't try it (but again, see point 3) 8. Unfortunately, no one completely new to programming booked with me, so others will have to give advice here. 9. Many people outside of the western hemisphere were interested, so it would be nice to have coverage across the globe. Future plans: Small plug: I used youcanbook.me to manage the office hours, with no problems. I encourage you to use their service, say nice things about them, and possibly give them money, *because*: These fine folks allow non-profits to use their advanced features for free, or at a reduced price. So, I requested that the Clojure community's office hours get this status. They said yes, so my account (for now, for testing, we can move it later) can have unlimited team members and services. So, I'd like to ask if there is interest in setting up a community clearinghouse for giving/receiving more office hours, possibly of more types. Some ideas (chime in with your own): 1. General Office Hours Basically what I did, except with more people offering office hours, so that: a. Any one person will only have to offer a small number of hours a week (1, even). b. Hopefully more coverage across time zones. c. People can tag what kinds of programming / projects they have expertise in, so that beginners picking up clojure for a specific reason or library can have a more productive session. E.g. some descriptions could read: Leif Poorman Location: Eastern USA Languages: en Tags: beginners, absolute beginners, web, data analysis, machine learning Rich Hickey (obviously this is just an example) Location: USA Languages: en, Bynar Tags: distributed systems, functional databases, Datomic, concurrency, alien technology, everything else 2. Office Hours for Beginners Specifically geared toward beginners in FP, absolute beginners in programming, etc. This could be covered by the description tags as above. Or this could be more of a hangout, where a set number of beginners get led through the ClojureBridge curriculum, or similar. 3. Project Specific Hours a) Someone with knowledge of an open source project gives a demo of its capabilities/weaknesses to prospective users (kind of a technical sales pitch, but for OSS) b) The maintainer of a fairly complex open source project walks some people that want to contribute through the codebase, to kickstart their contributions (I've seen this done/proposed for Midje and Cascalog, at least). Alternatively, we could just start with 1-on-1, or 1-on-1 and small group, and see where it goes from there. Comments? Questions? Suggestions? Cheers, Leif P.S. If you are interested in holding a few office hours, email me, and we can start testing out the more advanced youcanbook.me features. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group
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I too can only recommend to make use of this great opportunity. Many thanks to Ulises who helped to find a way with a problem I have always struggled with, namely the shape of the data you are working with is not visible and it is thus easy to make errors which are hard to troubleshoot. I have recorded the ideas with an example in the blog post Clojure: How To Prevent “Expected Map, Got Vector” And Similar Errorshttp://theholyjava.wordpress.com/2014/04/30/clojure-how-to-prevent-expected-map-got-vector-and-similar-errors/ . I am looking forward to talking to Ulises again in the future to review the effect of applying the ideas in practice. On Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:53:26 PM UTC+2, Leif wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clojure Office Hours
This is getting to the point where it seems to make sense as a wiki page like http://dev.clojure.org/display/community/Clojure+User+Groups Maybe http://dev.clojure.org/display/community/Clojure+Office+Hours ? On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Lynn Grogan l...@thinkrelevance.com wrote: This is awesome, thank you Leif! I just set up an office hours account to help anyone who might be interested in organizing a Clojure tech conference or event, Meetup, etc. I chose some random office times, so ping me if you have a special timing request outside of the listed hours. https://lynn.youcanbook.me/ Cheers! Lynn Grogan (Cognitect, Events Manager) On Monday, April 28, 2014 5:31:04 AM UTC-5, Ulises wrote: Thanks for the pointer Jakob. I've updated the form accordingly. Cheers, On 28 April 2014 10:56, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.no wrote: I too have booked a session with Ulises and am excited about it :-) @Ulises It would be nice if the timezone of the session was mentioned on the booking page (your [BST] 9-10am is mine [CEST] 10-11, I believe). 2014-04-28 11:09 GMT+02:00 Rudi Engelbrecht rudi.eng...@gmail.com: Hi Ulises Just finished our session - wow! I have learned a lot by watching how you approach solving the problem I suggested. Looking forward to our next session and thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge. Kind regards Rudi Engelbrecht On 18/04/2014, at 7:41 PM, Ulises ulises@gmail.com wrote: Yikes! Got my first booking for Monday. That was quick! one thing I forgot to mention is that I have no preferred way to do this. I personally have emacs+cider set up, but I'm happy to work with your own set up. In the past I've used ScreenHero (not available for Linux unfortunately) for screen sharing, as well as Google hangouts. Once you've booked an appointment with me please email me privately to arrange the pairing set up so that I can be ready for you :) Cheers On 18 April 2014 10:35, Ulises ulises@gmail.com wrote: Inspired by Leif's offer, I've decided to offer Clojure office hours as well. I'm based in the UK so I reckon the times will be more amenable to those in Europe (not sure the times will be good for those in Asia unfortunately.) Sadly the offer is limited to 1h a day, but hopefully it'll still be useful. You can book me at https://ucb.youcanbook.me/ Cheers! On 18 April 2014 03:03, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: @Miguel: There are somewhat subtle arrows on the sides for navigation. Thursday, April 24 is still open. I will give a slot to you if you want one, just email me if the 24th is full when you check again. @all: But yes, this round of office hours is almost over. I will be in transit for at least a couple weeks in the beginning of May, but I will probably book some more hours when I become stationary again. It will probably be more like 4 or 5 hours a week, though, not 8. @all: Several poor souls from Europe are going to stay up until 2 a.m. for this, and people further east are probably just silent because the time difference is so large; So, I definitely think some European / African / Asian / Australian clojure devs' office hours would be popular. It's fun, and you might find some people to hire, if that's your thing! --Leif On Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:43:50 AM UTC-4, Miguel Ping wrote: Hey, the schedule's full! :\ On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:57:49 AM UTC+1, Marcus Blankenship wrote: Leif, thanks for the great session today. Not only did I get a jump start on my next 4Clojure problems, but I learned some emacs as well! Very enjoyable, and I look forward to next week’s session. THANK YOU! All, if you’re trying to get a jumpstart on Clojure, I highly recommend Leif’s office hours. -Marcus On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: @Jakub: Thanks for your kind words. I'm definitely no industry hero, but I hope Clojure devs of all levels start having more pair programming fun. @Tim: Clojurescript UI programming being way out of my comfort zone, I learned quite a lot from you yesterday. So thank you. @Everyone: To clarify / reiterate: You do not need a plan, a project, or a specific problem. If you want to work through Project Euler, 4clojure, clojure-koans, the ClojureBridge materials, some other clojure tutorial, or just play it by ear, I am happy to try it out. --Leif On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:00:17 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: I just came from an office hours session, yesterday with Leif. This is good stuff guys, and a great way to learn and meet with other developers. Highly recommended. Thanks Leif Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.no wrote: Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar
Re: Clojure Office Hours
This is awesome, thank you Leif! I just set up an office hours account to help anyone who might be interested in organizing a Clojure tech conference or event, Meetup, etc. I chose some random office times, so ping me if you have a special timing request outside of the listed hours. https://lynn.youcanbook.me/ Cheers! Lynn Grogan (Cognitect, Events Manager) On Monday, April 28, 2014 5:31:04 AM UTC-5, Ulises wrote: Thanks for the pointer Jakob. I've updated the form accordingly. Cheers, On 28 April 2014 10:56, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.no javascript:wrote: I too have booked a session with Ulises and am excited about it :-) @Ulises It would be nice if the timezone of the session was mentioned on the booking page (your [BST] 9-10am is mine [CEST] 10-11, I believe). 2014-04-28 11:09 GMT+02:00 Rudi Engelbrecht rudi.eng...@gmail.comjavascript: : Hi Ulises Just finished our session - wow! I have learned a lot by watching how you approach solving the problem I suggested. Looking forward to our next session and thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge. Kind regards Rudi Engelbrecht On 18/04/2014, at 7:41 PM, Ulises ulises@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Yikes! Got my first booking for Monday. That was quick! one thing I forgot to mention is that I have no preferred way to do this. I personally have emacs+cider set up, but I'm happy to work with your own set up. In the past I've used ScreenHero (not available for Linux unfortunately) for screen sharing, as well as Google hangouts. Once you've booked an appointment with me please email me privately to arrange the pairing set up so that I can be ready for you :) Cheers On 18 April 2014 10:35, Ulises ulises@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Inspired by Leif's offer, I've decided to offer Clojure office hours as well. I'm based in the UK so I reckon the times will be more amenable to those in Europe (not sure the times will be good for those in Asia unfortunately.) Sadly the offer is limited to 1h a day, but hopefully it'll still be useful. You can book me at https://ucb.youcanbook.me/ Cheers! On 18 April 2014 03:03, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: @Miguel: There are somewhat subtle arrows on the sides for navigation. Thursday, April 24 is still open. I will give a slot to you if you want one, just email me if the 24th is full when you check again. @all: But yes, this round of office hours is almost over. I will be in transit for at least a couple weeks in the beginning of May, but I will probably book some more hours when I become stationary again. It will probably be more like 4 or 5 hours a week, though, not 8. @all: Several poor souls from Europe are going to stay up until 2 a.m. for this, and people further east are probably just silent because the time difference is so large; So, I definitely think some European / African / Asian / Australian clojure devs' office hours would be popular. It's fun, and you might find some people to hire, if that's your thing! --Leif On Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:43:50 AM UTC-4, Miguel Ping wrote: Hey, the schedule's full! :\ On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:57:49 AM UTC+1, Marcus Blankenship wrote: Leif, thanks for the great session today. Not only did I get a jump start on my next 4Clojure problems, but I learned some emacs as well! Very enjoyable, and I look forward to next week’s session. THANK YOU! All, if you’re trying to get a jumpstart on Clojure, I highly recommend Leif’s office hours. -Marcus On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: @Jakub: Thanks for your kind words. I'm definitely no industry hero, but I hope Clojure devs of all levels start having more pair programming fun. @Tim: Clojurescript UI programming being *way* out of my comfort zone, I learned quite a lot from you yesterday. So thank *you*. @Everyone: To clarify / reiterate: You do *not* need a plan, a project, or a specific problem. If you want to work through Project Euler, 4clojure, clojure-koans, the ClojureBridge materials, some other clojure tutorial, or just play it by ear, I am happy to try it out. --Leif On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:00:17 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: I just came from an office hours session, yesterday with Leif. This is good stuff guys, and a great way to learn and meet with other developers. Highly recommended. Thanks Leif Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com/ On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.nowrote: Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar experience - in my company we can consult with an industry hero yet people use the opportunity seldom, presumably because of multiple factors
Re: Clojure Office Hours
Hi Ulises Just finished our session - wow! I have learned a lot by watching how you approach solving the problem I suggested. Looking forward to our next session and thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge. Kind regards Rudi Engelbrecht On 18/04/2014, at 7:41 PM, Ulises ulises.cerv...@gmail.com wrote: Yikes! Got my first booking for Monday. That was quick! one thing I forgot to mention is that I have no preferred way to do this. I personally have emacs+cider set up, but I'm happy to work with your own set up. In the past I've used ScreenHero (not available for Linux unfortunately) for screen sharing, as well as Google hangouts. Once you've booked an appointment with me please email me privately to arrange the pairing set up so that I can be ready for you :) Cheers On 18 April 2014 10:35, Ulises ulises.cerv...@gmail.com wrote: Inspired by Leif's offer, I've decided to offer Clojure office hours as well. I'm based in the UK so I reckon the times will be more amenable to those in Europe (not sure the times will be good for those in Asia unfortunately.) Sadly the offer is limited to 1h a day, but hopefully it'll still be useful. You can book me at https://ucb.youcanbook.me/ Cheers! On 18 April 2014 03:03, Leif leif.poor...@gmail.com wrote: @Miguel: There are somewhat subtle arrows on the sides for navigation. Thursday, April 24 is still open. I will give a slot to you if you want one, just email me if the 24th is full when you check again. @all: But yes, this round of office hours is almost over. I will be in transit for at least a couple weeks in the beginning of May, but I will probably book some more hours when I become stationary again. It will probably be more like 4 or 5 hours a week, though, not 8. @all: Several poor souls from Europe are going to stay up until 2 a.m. for this, and people further east are probably just silent because the time difference is so large; So, I definitely think some European / African / Asian / Australian clojure devs' office hours would be popular. It's fun, and you might find some people to hire, if that's your thing! --Leif On Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:43:50 AM UTC-4, Miguel Ping wrote: Hey, the schedule's full! :\ On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:57:49 AM UTC+1, Marcus Blankenship wrote: Leif, thanks for the great session today. Not only did I get a jump start on my next 4Clojure problems, but I learned some emacs as well! Very enjoyable, and I look forward to next week's session. THANK YOU! All, if you're trying to get a jumpstart on Clojure, I highly recommend Leif's office hours. -Marcus On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: @Jakub: Thanks for your kind words. I'm definitely no industry hero, but I hope Clojure devs of all levels start having more pair programming fun. @Tim: Clojurescript UI programming being way out of my comfort zone, I learned quite a lot from you yesterday. So thank you. @Everyone: To clarify / reiterate: You do not need a plan, a project, or a specific problem. If you want to work through Project Euler, 4clojure, clojure-koans, the ClojureBridge materials, some other clojure tutorial, or just play it by ear, I am happy to try it out. --Leif On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:00:17 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: I just came from an office hours session, yesterday with Leif. This is good stuff guys, and a great way to learn and meet with other developers. Highly recommended. Thanks Leif Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.no wrote: Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar experience - in my company we can consult with an industry hero yet people use the opportunity seldom, presumably because of multiple factors: they (wrongly) don't feel that they do not have something important/interesting enough to bother him, they are little scared of talking to and exposing themselves and their work to this experienced guy, and might find it difficult to explain their challenge to an outsider and get an advice within the limited time scope. On the other hand, those who dare to use the opportunity benefit from it greatly. Good luck, Jakub On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:13:18 AM UTC+2, Leif wrote: Hmm... less interest than I'd expected, given recent posts. Maybe I should rename the thread to Free Clojure Consulting / Tutoring. Tht's not spammy. FYI, all bookings are automatically confirmed, so don't fret if I don't instantly respond. @Tim: Sounds good! Of course, now I'll have to take some time this weekend and try to actually understand Om. :) (or maybe ?o_0? ) --Leif On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:56:37 AM UTC-4, frye wrote
Re: Clojure Office Hours
I too have booked a session with Ulises and am excited about it :-) @Ulises It would be nice if the timezone of the session was mentioned on the booking page (your [BST] 9-10am is mine [CEST] 10-11, I believe). 2014-04-28 11:09 GMT+02:00 Rudi Engelbrecht rudi.engelbre...@gmail.com: Hi Ulises Just finished our session - wow! I have learned a lot by watching how you approach solving the problem I suggested. Looking forward to our next session and thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge. Kind regards Rudi Engelbrecht On 18/04/2014, at 7:41 PM, Ulises ulises.cerv...@gmail.com wrote: Yikes! Got my first booking for Monday. That was quick! one thing I forgot to mention is that I have no preferred way to do this. I personally have emacs+cider set up, but I'm happy to work with your own set up. In the past I've used ScreenHero (not available for Linux unfortunately) for screen sharing, as well as Google hangouts. Once you've booked an appointment with me please email me privately to arrange the pairing set up so that I can be ready for you :) Cheers On 18 April 2014 10:35, Ulises ulises.cerv...@gmail.com wrote: Inspired by Leif's offer, I've decided to offer Clojure office hours as well. I'm based in the UK so I reckon the times will be more amenable to those in Europe (not sure the times will be good for those in Asia unfortunately.) Sadly the offer is limited to 1h a day, but hopefully it'll still be useful. You can book me at https://ucb.youcanbook.me/ Cheers! On 18 April 2014 03:03, Leif leif.poor...@gmail.com wrote: @Miguel: There are somewhat subtle arrows on the sides for navigation. Thursday, April 24 is still open. I will give a slot to you if you want one, just email me if the 24th is full when you check again. @all: But yes, this round of office hours is almost over. I will be in transit for at least a couple weeks in the beginning of May, but I will probably book some more hours when I become stationary again. It will probably be more like 4 or 5 hours a week, though, not 8. @all: Several poor souls from Europe are going to stay up until 2 a.m. for this, and people further east are probably just silent because the time difference is so large; So, I definitely think some European / African / Asian / Australian clojure devs' office hours would be popular. It's fun, and you might find some people to hire, if that's your thing! --Leif On Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:43:50 AM UTC-4, Miguel Ping wrote: Hey, the schedule's full! :\ On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:57:49 AM UTC+1, Marcus Blankenship wrote: Leif, thanks for the great session today. Not only did I get a jump start on my next 4Clojure problems, but I learned some emacs as well! Very enjoyable, and I look forward to next week’s session. THANK YOU! All, if you’re trying to get a jumpstart on Clojure, I highly recommend Leif’s office hours. -Marcus On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: @Jakub: Thanks for your kind words. I'm definitely no industry hero, but I hope Clojure devs of all levels start having more pair programming fun. @Tim: Clojurescript UI programming being *way* out of my comfort zone, I learned quite a lot from you yesterday. So thank *you*. @Everyone: To clarify / reiterate: You do *not* need a plan, a project, or a specific problem. If you want to work through Project Euler, 4clojure, clojure-koans, the ClojureBridge materials, some other clojure tutorial, or just play it by ear, I am happy to try it out. --Leif On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:00:17 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: I just came from an office hours session, yesterday with Leif. This is good stuff guys, and a great way to learn and meet with other developers. Highly recommended. Thanks Leif Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com/ On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.nowrote: Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar experience - in my company we can consult with an industry hero yet people use the opportunity seldom, presumably because of multiple factors: they (wrongly) don't feel that they do not have something important/interesting enough to bother him, they are little scared of talking to and exposing themselves and their work to this experienced guy, and might find it difficult to explain their challenge to an outsider and get an advice within the limited time scope. On the other hand, those who dare to use the opportunity benefit from it greatly. Good luck, Jakub On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:13:18 AM UTC+2, Leif wrote: Hmm... less interest than I'd expected, given recent posts. Maybe I should rename the thread to Free Clojure Consulting / Tutoring. Tht's not spammy. FYI, all bookings
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Thanks for the pointer Jakob. I've updated the form accordingly. Cheers, On 28 April 2014 10:56, Jakub Holy jakub.h...@iterate.no wrote: I too have booked a session with Ulises and am excited about it :-) @Ulises It would be nice if the timezone of the session was mentioned on the booking page (your [BST] 9-10am is mine [CEST] 10-11, I believe). 2014-04-28 11:09 GMT+02:00 Rudi Engelbrecht rudi.engelbre...@gmail.com: Hi Ulises Just finished our session - wow! I have learned a lot by watching how you approach solving the problem I suggested. Looking forward to our next session and thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge. Kind regards Rudi Engelbrecht On 18/04/2014, at 7:41 PM, Ulises ulises.cerv...@gmail.com wrote: Yikes! Got my first booking for Monday. That was quick! one thing I forgot to mention is that I have no preferred way to do this. I personally have emacs+cider set up, but I'm happy to work with your own set up. In the past I've used ScreenHero (not available for Linux unfortunately) for screen sharing, as well as Google hangouts. Once you've booked an appointment with me please email me privately to arrange the pairing set up so that I can be ready for you :) Cheers On 18 April 2014 10:35, Ulises ulises.cerv...@gmail.com wrote: Inspired by Leif's offer, I've decided to offer Clojure office hours as well. I'm based in the UK so I reckon the times will be more amenable to those in Europe (not sure the times will be good for those in Asia unfortunately.) Sadly the offer is limited to 1h a day, but hopefully it'll still be useful. You can book me at https://ucb.youcanbook.me/ Cheers! On 18 April 2014 03:03, Leif leif.poor...@gmail.com wrote: @Miguel: There are somewhat subtle arrows on the sides for navigation. Thursday, April 24 is still open. I will give a slot to you if you want one, just email me if the 24th is full when you check again. @all: But yes, this round of office hours is almost over. I will be in transit for at least a couple weeks in the beginning of May, but I will probably book some more hours when I become stationary again. It will probably be more like 4 or 5 hours a week, though, not 8. @all: Several poor souls from Europe are going to stay up until 2 a.m. for this, and people further east are probably just silent because the time difference is so large; So, I definitely think some European / African / Asian / Australian clojure devs' office hours would be popular. It's fun, and you might find some people to hire, if that's your thing! --Leif On Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:43:50 AM UTC-4, Miguel Ping wrote: Hey, the schedule's full! :\ On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:57:49 AM UTC+1, Marcus Blankenship wrote: Leif, thanks for the great session today. Not only did I get a jump start on my next 4Clojure problems, but I learned some emacs as well! Very enjoyable, and I look forward to next week’s session. THANK YOU! All, if you’re trying to get a jumpstart on Clojure, I highly recommend Leif’s office hours. -Marcus On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: @Jakub: Thanks for your kind words. I'm definitely no industry hero, but I hope Clojure devs of all levels start having more pair programming fun. @Tim: Clojurescript UI programming being *way* out of my comfort zone, I learned quite a lot from you yesterday. So thank *you*. @Everyone: To clarify / reiterate: You do *not* need a plan, a project, or a specific problem. If you want to work through Project Euler, 4clojure, clojure-koans, the ClojureBridge materials, some other clojure tutorial, or just play it by ear, I am happy to try it out. --Leif On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:00:17 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: I just came from an office hours session, yesterday with Leif. This is good stuff guys, and a great way to learn and meet with other developers. Highly recommended. Thanks Leif Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com/ On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.nowrote: Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar experience - in my company we can consult with an industry hero yet people use the opportunity seldom, presumably because of multiple factors: they (wrongly) don't feel that they do not have something important/interesting enough to bother him, they are little scared of talking to and exposing themselves and their work to this experienced guy, and might find it difficult to explain their challenge to an outsider and get an advice within the limited time scope. On the other hand, those who dare to use the opportunity benefit from it greatly. Good luck, Jakub On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:13:18 AM UTC+2, Leif wrote: Hmm... less interest than I'd expected, given
Re: Clojure Office Hours - Experience Report and Future Plans
Hi Leif. I think this is a great idea. I volunteer to do some office hours for beginners. It would be great if some folks who have put on ClojureBridge could help pitch in an hour or two of office hours. ClojureBridge workshop attendees would be a great audience for this. Bridget On Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:44:08 PM UTC-4, Leif wrote: This message is aimed at people that want to *hold* office hours primarily, but of course others can chime in with opinions, suggestions, cheerleading, etc. I recently held office hours where I chatted / pair programmed with less experienced clojure programmers (some were in fact more experienced). Lessons learned: 1. It's fun! Do it! Online like me, or convince your local clojure user group to do it. 2. As I expected, I was more help to less experienced people, but learned a lot *from* the others, and hopefully I was at least useful as a sounding board. 3. An hour is less time than it sounds. 4. If possible, test your pair programming setup beforehand (see point 3 above) a) corollary: if someone is asking about a library that takes some setup, it's probably best if *they* do the setup and host the pairing session. 5. Any remote sharing software (tmux, teamviewer, etc) will mangle *some* input. Be prepared to work around that. 6. Educate people how to cancel, and to cancel ASAP, since some will inevitably need to. 7. For beginners (at clojure, but not programming), pick a specific problem and work through it, or have a solution and explain it step-by-step; that seemed to work best. Code review of some OSS project they are interested in might also work, I didn't try it (but again, see point 3) 8. Unfortunately, no one completely new to programming booked with me, so others will have to give advice here. 9. Many people outside of the western hemisphere were interested, so it would be nice to have coverage across the globe. Future plans: Small plug: I used youcanbook.me to manage the office hours, with no problems. I encourage you to use their service, say nice things about them, and possibly give them money, *because*: These fine folks allow non-profits to use their advanced features for free, or at a reduced price. So, I requested that the Clojure community's office hours get this status. They said yes, so my account (for now, for testing, we can move it later) can have unlimited team members and services. So, I'd like to ask if there is interest in setting up a community clearinghouse for giving/receiving more office hours, possibly of more types. Some ideas (chime in with your own): 1. General Office Hours Basically what I did, except with more people offering office hours, so that: a. Any one person will only have to offer a small number of hours a week (1, even). b. Hopefully more coverage across time zones. c. People can tag what kinds of programming / projects they have expertise in, so that beginners picking up clojure for a specific reason or library can have a more productive session. E.g. some descriptions could read: Leif Poorman Location: Eastern USA Languages: en Tags: beginners, absolute beginners, web, data analysis, machine learning Rich Hickey (obviously this is just an example) Location: USA Languages: en, Bynar Tags: distributed systems, functional databases, Datomic, concurrency, alien technology, everything else 2. Office Hours for Beginners Specifically geared toward beginners in FP, absolute beginners in programming, etc. This could be covered by the description tags as above. Or this could be more of a hangout, where a set number of beginners get led through the ClojureBridge curriculum, or similar. 3. Project Specific Hours a) Someone with knowledge of an open source project gives a demo of its capabilities/weaknesses to prospective users (kind of a technical sales pitch, but for OSS) b) The maintainer of a fairly complex open source project walks some people that want to contribute through the codebase, to kickstart their contributions (I've seen this done/proposed for Midje and Cascalog, at least). Alternatively, we could just start with 1-on-1, or 1-on-1 and small group, and see where it goes from there. Comments? Questions? Suggestions? Cheers, Leif P.S. If you are interested in holding a few office hours, email me, and we can start testing out the more advanced youcanbook.me features. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You
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Hi Leif, First I just wanted to mention that I absolutely loved our session last week. I'm very glad to see the Clojure community taking this very important action. Unfortunately now I'm on the beginner side, but I will definitely give some of my hours to people so I can help them understand Clojure better. Thanks again for everyone contributing to this. On Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:44:08 PM UTC-4, Leif wrote: This message is aimed at people that want to *hold* office hours primarily, but of course others can chime in with opinions, suggestions, cheerleading, etc. I recently held office hours where I chatted / pair programmed with less experienced clojure programmers (some were in fact more experienced). Lessons learned: 1. It's fun! Do it! Online like me, or convince your local clojure user group to do it. 2. As I expected, I was more help to less experienced people, but learned a lot *from* the others, and hopefully I was at least useful as a sounding board. 3. An hour is less time than it sounds. 4. If possible, test your pair programming setup beforehand (see point 3 above) a) corollary: if someone is asking about a library that takes some setup, it's probably best if *they* do the setup and host the pairing session. 5. Any remote sharing software (tmux, teamviewer, etc) will mangle *some* input. Be prepared to work around that. 6. Educate people how to cancel, and to cancel ASAP, since some will inevitably need to. 7. For beginners (at clojure, but not programming), pick a specific problem and work through it, or have a solution and explain it step-by-step; that seemed to work best. Code review of some OSS project they are interested in might also work, I didn't try it (but again, see point 3) 8. Unfortunately, no one completely new to programming booked with me, so others will have to give advice here. 9. Many people outside of the western hemisphere were interested, so it would be nice to have coverage across the globe. Future plans: Small plug: I used youcanbook.me to manage the office hours, with no problems. I encourage you to use their service, say nice things about them, and possibly give them money, *because*: These fine folks allow non-profits to use their advanced features for free, or at a reduced price. So, I requested that the Clojure community's office hours get this status. They said yes, so my account (for now, for testing, we can move it later) can have unlimited team members and services. So, I'd like to ask if there is interest in setting up a community clearinghouse for giving/receiving more office hours, possibly of more types. Some ideas (chime in with your own): 1. General Office Hours Basically what I did, except with more people offering office hours, so that: a. Any one person will only have to offer a small number of hours a week (1, even). b. Hopefully more coverage across time zones. c. People can tag what kinds of programming / projects they have expertise in, so that beginners picking up clojure for a specific reason or library can have a more productive session. E.g. some descriptions could read: Leif Poorman Location: Eastern USA Languages: en Tags: beginners, absolute beginners, web, data analysis, machine learning Rich Hickey (obviously this is just an example) Location: USA Languages: en, Bynar Tags: distributed systems, functional databases, Datomic, concurrency, alien technology, everything else 2. Office Hours for Beginners Specifically geared toward beginners in FP, absolute beginners in programming, etc. This could be covered by the description tags as above. Or this could be more of a hangout, where a set number of beginners get led through the ClojureBridge curriculum, or similar. 3. Project Specific Hours a) Someone with knowledge of an open source project gives a demo of its capabilities/weaknesses to prospective users (kind of a technical sales pitch, but for OSS) b) The maintainer of a fairly complex open source project walks some people that want to contribute through the codebase, to kickstart their contributions (I've seen this done/proposed for Midje and Cascalog, at least). Alternatively, we could just start with 1-on-1, or 1-on-1 and small group, and see where it goes from there. Comments? Questions? Suggestions? Cheers, Leif P.S. If you are interested in holding a few office hours, email me, and we can start testing out the more advanced youcanbook.me features. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options,
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And if you are in Europe, remember that Ulises is still offering, at what looks like 1300-1400 UTC (I think): https://ucb.youcanbook.me/https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fucb.youcanbook.me%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGoo6exDmYGhdu-4qu3L9tL2v8AkQ It's actually 9-10am BST, but thanks for the plug :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Just booked my first session - really excited! Thanks for this ;-) Rudi On 25/04/2014, at 6:54 PM, Ulises ulises.cerv...@gmail.com wrote: And if you are in Europe, remember that Ulises is still offering, at what looks like 1300-1400 UTC (I think): https://ucb.youcanbook.me/ It's actually 9-10am BST, but thanks for the plug :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Clojure Office Hours - Experience Report and Future Plans
This message is aimed at people that want to *hold* office hours primarily, but of course others can chime in with opinions, suggestions, cheerleading, etc. I recently held office hours where I chatted / pair programmed with less experienced clojure programmers (some were in fact more experienced). Lessons learned: 1. It's fun! Do it! Online like me, or convince your local clojure user group to do it. 2. As I expected, I was more help to less experienced people, but learned a lot *from* the others, and hopefully I was at least useful as a sounding board. 3. An hour is less time than it sounds. 4. If possible, test your pair programming setup beforehand (see point 3 above) a) corollary: if someone is asking about a library that takes some setup, it's probably best if *they* do the setup and host the pairing session. 5. Any remote sharing software (tmux, teamviewer, etc) will mangle *some* input. Be prepared to work around that. 6. Educate people how to cancel, and to cancel ASAP, since some will inevitably need to. 7. For beginners (at clojure, but not programming), pick a specific problem and work through it, or have a solution and explain it step-by-step; that seemed to work best. Code review of some OSS project they are interested in might also work, I didn't try it (but again, see point 3) 8. Unfortunately, no one completely new to programming booked with me, so others will have to give advice here. 9. Many people outside of the western hemisphere were interested, so it would be nice to have coverage across the globe. Future plans: Small plug: I used youcanbook.me to manage the office hours, with no problems. I encourage you to use their service, say nice things about them, and possibly give them money, *because*: These fine folks allow non-profits to use their advanced features for free, or at a reduced price. So, I requested that the Clojure community's office hours get this status. They said yes, so my account (for now, for testing, we can move it later) can have unlimited team members and services. So, I'd like to ask if there is interest in setting up a community clearinghouse for giving/receiving more office hours, possibly of more types. Some ideas (chime in with your own): 1. General Office Hours Basically what I did, except with more people offering office hours, so that: a. Any one person will only have to offer a small number of hours a week (1, even). b. Hopefully more coverage across time zones. c. People can tag what kinds of programming / projects they have expertise in, so that beginners picking up clojure for a specific reason or library can have a more productive session. E.g. some descriptions could read: Leif Poorman Location: Eastern USA Languages: en Tags: beginners, absolute beginners, web, data analysis, machine learning Rich Hickey (obviously this is just an example) Location: USA Languages: en, Bynar Tags: distributed systems, functional databases, Datomic, concurrency, alien technology, everything else 2. Office Hours for Beginners Specifically geared toward beginners in FP, absolute beginners in programming, etc. This could be covered by the description tags as above. Or this could be more of a hangout, where a set number of beginners get led through the ClojureBridge curriculum, or similar. 3. Project Specific Hours a) Someone with knowledge of an open source project gives a demo of its capabilities/weaknesses to prospective users (kind of a technical sales pitch, but for OSS) b) The maintainer of a fairly complex open source project walks some people that want to contribute through the codebase, to kickstart their contributions (I've seen this done/proposed for Midje and Cascalog, at least). Alternatively, we could just start with 1-on-1, or 1-on-1 and small group, and see where it goes from there. Comments? Questions? Suggestions? Cheers, Leif P.S. If you are interested in holding a few office hours, email me, and we can start testing out the more advanced youcanbook.me features. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi, all. This test run of office hours was fun, and I hope to do it again soon. Unfortunately, as I said above, for the next several weeks at least I will be in transit, but I hope to have more office hours in the future. I've started a new thread on the list, trying to drum up community support, so hopefully soon there will be more people across more time zones offering more office hours. We'll see. And if you are in Europe, remember that Ulises is still offering, at what looks like 1300-1400 UTC (I think): https://ucb.youcanbook.me/https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fucb.youcanbook.me%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGoo6exDmYGhdu-4qu3L9tL2v8AkQ Best wishes, Leif On Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:53:26 AM UTC-4, Leif wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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This is awesome guys, I really love the initiative some people of the Clojure community are taking. I just booked my first session. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:10:02 AM UTC-4, Cecil Westerhof wrote: 2014-04-18 11:35 GMT+02:00 Ulises ulises@gmail.com javascript:: Inspired by Leif's offer, I've decided to offer Clojure office hours as well. I'm based in the UK so I reckon the times will be more amenable to those in Europe (not sure the times will be good for those in Asia unfortunately.) Sadly the offer is limited to 1h a day, but hopefully it'll still be useful. You can book me at https://ucb.youcanbook.me/ I had a session with Ulises yesterday. I found it very useful. I recommend everyone who wants to start programming in Clojure to do a session with a more experienced person: it gets your blood streaming. :-D -- Cecil Westerhof -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Thanks, Leif, for offering these office hours. I just wrapped up my office hour with Leif. We chatted about Clojure community and open source project stuff, as that is what I needed help with, and he was very helpful in brainstorming ideas. If he offers office hours again, I'd recommend it highly. Thinking about offering my own office hours for Clojure beginners On Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:53:26 AM UTC-4, Leif wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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2014-04-18 11:35 GMT+02:00 Ulises ulises.cerv...@gmail.com: Inspired by Leif's offer, I've decided to offer Clojure office hours as well. I'm based in the UK so I reckon the times will be more amenable to those in Europe (not sure the times will be good for those in Asia unfortunately.) Sadly the offer is limited to 1h a day, but hopefully it'll still be useful. You can book me at https://ucb.youcanbook.me/ I had a session with Ulises yesterday. I found it very useful. I recommend everyone who wants to start programming in Clojure to do a session with a more experienced person: it gets your blood streaming. :-D -- Cecil Westerhof -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Inspired by Leif's offer, I've decided to offer Clojure office hours as well. I'm based in the UK so I reckon the times will be more amenable to those in Europe (not sure the times will be good for those in Asia unfortunately.) Sadly the offer is limited to 1h a day, but hopefully it'll still be useful. You can book me at https://ucb.youcanbook.me/ Cheers! On 18 April 2014 03:03, Leif leif.poor...@gmail.com wrote: @Miguel: There are somewhat subtle arrows on the sides for navigation. Thursday, April 24 is still open. I will give a slot to you if you want one, just email me if the 24th is full when you check again. @all: But yes, this round of office hours is almost over. I will be in transit for at least a couple weeks in the beginning of May, but I will probably book some more hours when I become stationary again. It will probably be more like 4 or 5 hours a week, though, not 8. @all: Several poor souls from Europe are going to stay up until 2 a.m. for this, and people further east are probably just silent because the time difference is so large; So, I definitely think some European / African / Asian / Australian clojure devs' office hours would be popular. It's fun, and you might find some people to hire, if that's your thing! --Leif On Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:43:50 AM UTC-4, Miguel Ping wrote: Hey, the schedule's full! :\ On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:57:49 AM UTC+1, Marcus Blankenship wrote: Leif, thanks for the great session today. Not only did I get a jump start on my next 4Clojure problems, but I learned some emacs as well! Very enjoyable, and I look forward to next week’s session. THANK YOU! All, if you’re trying to get a jumpstart on Clojure, I highly recommend Leif’s office hours. -Marcus On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: @Jakub: Thanks for your kind words. I'm definitely no industry hero, but I hope Clojure devs of all levels start having more pair programming fun. @Tim: Clojurescript UI programming being *way* out of my comfort zone, I learned quite a lot from you yesterday. So thank *you*. @Everyone: To clarify / reiterate: You do *not* need a plan, a project, or a specific problem. If you want to work through Project Euler, 4clojure, clojure-koans, the ClojureBridge materials, some other clojure tutorial, or just play it by ear, I am happy to try it out. --Leif On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:00:17 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: I just came from an office hours session, yesterday with Leif. This is good stuff guys, and a great way to learn and meet with other developers. Highly recommended. Thanks Leif Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com/ On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.nowrote: Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar experience - in my company we can consult with an industry hero yet people use the opportunity seldom, presumably because of multiple factors: they (wrongly) don't feel that they do not have something important/interesting enough to bother him, they are little scared of talking to and exposing themselves and their work to this experienced guy, and might find it difficult to explain their challenge to an outsider and get an advice within the limited time scope. On the other hand, those who dare to use the opportunity benefit from it greatly. Good luck, Jakub On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:13:18 AM UTC+2, Leif wrote: Hmm... less interest than I'd expected, given recent posts. Maybe I should rename the thread to Free Clojure Consulting / Tutoring. Tht's not spammy. FYI, all bookings are automatically confirmed, so don't fret if I don't instantly respond. @Tim: Sounds good! Of course, now I'll have to take some time this weekend and try to actually understand Om. :) (or maybe ?o_0? ) --Leif On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:56:37 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: Sounds great. I just sent a request. Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com/ On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Colin Fleming colin.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Leif, This sounds like a very interesting project, please report back and let us know how it went! I'd be very interested to know. Cheers, Colin On 11 April 2014 00:53, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting
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Yikes! Got my first booking for Monday. That was quick! one thing I forgot to mention is that I have no preferred way to do this. I personally have emacs+cider set up, but I'm happy to work with your own set up. In the past I've used ScreenHero (not available for Linux unfortunately) for screen sharing, as well as Google hangouts. Once you've booked an appointment with me please email me privately to arrange the pairing set up so that I can be ready for you :) Cheers On 18 April 2014 10:35, Ulises ulises.cerv...@gmail.com wrote: Inspired by Leif's offer, I've decided to offer Clojure office hours as well. I'm based in the UK so I reckon the times will be more amenable to those in Europe (not sure the times will be good for those in Asia unfortunately.) Sadly the offer is limited to 1h a day, but hopefully it'll still be useful. You can book me at https://ucb.youcanbook.me/ Cheers! On 18 April 2014 03:03, Leif leif.poor...@gmail.com wrote: @Miguel: There are somewhat subtle arrows on the sides for navigation. Thursday, April 24 is still open. I will give a slot to you if you want one, just email me if the 24th is full when you check again. @all: But yes, this round of office hours is almost over. I will be in transit for at least a couple weeks in the beginning of May, but I will probably book some more hours when I become stationary again. It will probably be more like 4 or 5 hours a week, though, not 8. @all: Several poor souls from Europe are going to stay up until 2 a.m. for this, and people further east are probably just silent because the time difference is so large; So, I definitely think some European / African / Asian / Australian clojure devs' office hours would be popular. It's fun, and you might find some people to hire, if that's your thing! --Leif On Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:43:50 AM UTC-4, Miguel Ping wrote: Hey, the schedule's full! :\ On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:57:49 AM UTC+1, Marcus Blankenship wrote: Leif, thanks for the great session today. Not only did I get a jump start on my next 4Clojure problems, but I learned some emacs as well! Very enjoyable, and I look forward to next week’s session. THANK YOU! All, if you’re trying to get a jumpstart on Clojure, I highly recommend Leif’s office hours. -Marcus On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: @Jakub: Thanks for your kind words. I'm definitely no industry hero, but I hope Clojure devs of all levels start having more pair programming fun. @Tim: Clojurescript UI programming being *way* out of my comfort zone, I learned quite a lot from you yesterday. So thank *you*. @Everyone: To clarify / reiterate: You do *not* need a plan, a project, or a specific problem. If you want to work through Project Euler, 4clojure, clojure-koans, the ClojureBridge materials, some other clojure tutorial, or just play it by ear, I am happy to try it out. --Leif On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:00:17 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: I just came from an office hours session, yesterday with Leif. This is good stuff guys, and a great way to learn and meet with other developers. Highly recommended. Thanks Leif Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com/ On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.nowrote: Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar experience - in my company we can consult with an industry hero yet people use the opportunity seldom, presumably because of multiple factors: they (wrongly) don't feel that they do not have something important/interesting enough to bother him, they are little scared of talking to and exposing themselves and their work to this experienced guy, and might find it difficult to explain their challenge to an outsider and get an advice within the limited time scope. On the other hand, those who dare to use the opportunity benefit from it greatly. Good luck, Jakub On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:13:18 AM UTC+2, Leif wrote: Hmm... less interest than I'd expected, given recent posts. Maybe I should rename the thread to Free Clojure Consulting / Tutoring. Tht's not spammy. FYI, all bookings are automatically confirmed, so don't fret if I don't instantly respond. @Tim: Sounds good! Of course, now I'll have to take some time this weekend and try to actually understand Om. :) (or maybe ?o_0? ) --Leif On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:56:37 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: Sounds great. I just sent a request. Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com/ On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Colin Fleming colin.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Leif, This sounds like a very interesting project, please report back and let us know how it went! I'd be very interested to know. Cheers, Colin On 11
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Hey, the schedule's full! :\ On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:57:49 AM UTC+1, Marcus Blankenship wrote: Leif, thanks for the great session today. Not only did I get a jump start on my next 4Clojure problems, but I learned some emacs as well! Very enjoyable, and I look forward to next week’s session. THANK YOU! All, if you’re trying to get a jumpstart on Clojure, I highly recommend Leif’s office hours. -Marcus On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: @Jakub: Thanks for your kind words. I'm definitely no industry hero, but I hope Clojure devs of all levels start having more pair programming fun. @Tim: Clojurescript UI programming being *way* out of my comfort zone, I learned quite a lot from you yesterday. So thank *you*. @Everyone: To clarify / reiterate: You do *not* need a plan, a project, or a specific problem. If you want to work through Project Euler, 4clojure, clojure-koans, the ClojureBridge materials, some other clojure tutorial, or just play it by ear, I am happy to try it out. --Leif On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:00:17 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: I just came from an office hours session, yesterday with Leif. This is good stuff guys, and a great way to learn and meet with other developers. Highly recommended. Thanks Leif Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com/ On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.no wrote: Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar experience - in my company we can consult with an industry hero yet people use the opportunity seldom, presumably because of multiple factors: they (wrongly) don't feel that they do not have something important/interesting enough to bother him, they are little scared of talking to and exposing themselves and their work to this experienced guy, and might find it difficult to explain their challenge to an outsider and get an advice within the limited time scope. On the other hand, those who dare to use the opportunity benefit from it greatly. Good luck, Jakub On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:13:18 AM UTC+2, Leif wrote: Hmm... less interest than I'd expected, given recent posts. Maybe I should rename the thread to Free Clojure Consulting / Tutoring. Tht's not spammy. FYI, all bookings are automatically confirmed, so don't fret if I don't instantly respond. @Tim: Sounds good! Of course, now I'll have to take some time this weekend and try to actually understand Om. :) (or maybe ?o_0? ) --Leif On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:56:37 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: Sounds great. I just sent a request. Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com/ On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Colin Fleming colin.ma...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Leif, This sounds like a very interesting project, please report back and let us know how it went! I'd be very interested to know. Cheers, Colin On 11 April 2014 00:53, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe
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@Miguel: There are somewhat subtle arrows on the sides for navigation. Thursday, April 24 is still open. I will give a slot to you if you want one, just email me if the 24th is full when you check again. @all: But yes, this round of office hours is almost over. I will be in transit for at least a couple weeks in the beginning of May, but I will probably book some more hours when I become stationary again. It will probably be more like 4 or 5 hours a week, though, not 8. @all: Several poor souls from Europe are going to stay up until 2 a.m. for this, and people further east are probably just silent because the time difference is so large; So, I definitely think some European / African / Asian / Australian clojure devs' office hours would be popular. It's fun, and you might find some people to hire, if that's your thing! --Leif On Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:43:50 AM UTC-4, Miguel Ping wrote: Hey, the schedule's full! :\ On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:57:49 AM UTC+1, Marcus Blankenship wrote: Leif, thanks for the great session today. Not only did I get a jump start on my next 4Clojure problems, but I learned some emacs as well! Very enjoyable, and I look forward to next week’s session. THANK YOU! All, if you’re trying to get a jumpstart on Clojure, I highly recommend Leif’s office hours. -Marcus On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: @Jakub: Thanks for your kind words. I'm definitely no industry hero, but I hope Clojure devs of all levels start having more pair programming fun. @Tim: Clojurescript UI programming being *way* out of my comfort zone, I learned quite a lot from you yesterday. So thank *you*. @Everyone: To clarify / reiterate: You do *not* need a plan, a project, or a specific problem. If you want to work through Project Euler, 4clojure, clojure-koans, the ClojureBridge materials, some other clojure tutorial, or just play it by ear, I am happy to try it out. --Leif On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:00:17 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: I just came from an office hours session, yesterday with Leif. This is good stuff guys, and a great way to learn and meet with other developers. Highly recommended. Thanks Leif Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com/ On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.no wrote: Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar experience - in my company we can consult with an industry hero yet people use the opportunity seldom, presumably because of multiple factors: they (wrongly) don't feel that they do not have something important/interesting enough to bother him, they are little scared of talking to and exposing themselves and their work to this experienced guy, and might find it difficult to explain their challenge to an outsider and get an advice within the limited time scope. On the other hand, those who dare to use the opportunity benefit from it greatly. Good luck, Jakub On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:13:18 AM UTC+2, Leif wrote: Hmm... less interest than I'd expected, given recent posts. Maybe I should rename the thread to Free Clojure Consulting / Tutoring. Tht's not spammy. FYI, all bookings are automatically confirmed, so don't fret if I don't instantly respond. @Tim: Sounds good! Of course, now I'll have to take some time this weekend and try to actually understand Om. :) (or maybe ?o_0? ) --Leif On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:56:37 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: Sounds great. I just sent a request. Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com/ On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Colin Fleming colin.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Leif, This sounds like a very interesting project, please report back and let us know how it went! I'd be very interested to know. Cheers, Colin On 11 April 2014 00:53, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what
Re: Clojure Office Hours
Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar experience - in my company we can consult with an industry hero yet people use the opportunity seldom, presumably because of multiple factors: they (wrongly) don't feel that they do not have something important/interesting enough to bother him, they are little scared of talking to and exposing themselves and their work to this experienced guy, and might find it difficult to explain their challenge to an outsider and get an advice within the limited time scope. On the other hand, those who dare to use the opportunity benefit from it greatly. Good luck, Jakub On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:13:18 AM UTC+2, Leif wrote: Hmm... less interest than I'd expected, given recent posts. Maybe I should rename the thread to Free Clojure Consulting / Tutoring. Tht's not spammy. FYI, all bookings are automatically confirmed, so don't fret if I don't instantly respond. @Tim: Sounds good! Of course, now I'll have to take some time this weekend and try to actually understand Om. :) (or maybe ?o_0? ) --Leif On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:56:37 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: Sounds great. I just sent a request. Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Colin Fleming colin.ma...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Leif, This sounds like a very interesting project, please report back and let us know how it went! I'd be very interested to know. Cheers, Colin On 11 April 2014 00:53, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I just came from an office hours session, yesterday with Leif. This is good stuff guys, and a great way to learn and meet with other developers. Highly recommended. Thanks Leif Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jakub Holy jakub.h...@iterate.no wrote: Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar experience - in my company we can consult with an industry hero yet people use the opportunity seldom, presumably because of multiple factors: they (wrongly) don't feel that they do not have something important/interesting enough to bother him, they are little scared of talking to and exposing themselves and their work to this experienced guy, and might find it difficult to explain their challenge to an outsider and get an advice within the limited time scope. On the other hand, those who dare to use the opportunity benefit from it greatly. Good luck, Jakub On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:13:18 AM UTC+2, Leif wrote: Hmm... less interest than I'd expected, given recent posts. Maybe I should rename the thread to Free Clojure Consulting / Tutoring. Tht's not spammy. FYI, all bookings are automatically confirmed, so don't fret if I don't instantly respond. @Tim: Sounds good! Of course, now I'll have to take some time this weekend and try to actually understand Om. :) (or maybe ?o_0? ) --Leif On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:56:37 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: Sounds great. I just sent a request. Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Colin Fleming colin.ma...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Leif, This sounds like a very interesting project, please report back and let us know how it went! I'd be very interested to know. Cheers, Colin On 11 April 2014 00:53, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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@Jakub: Thanks for your kind words. I'm definitely no industry hero, but I hope Clojure devs of all levels start having more pair programming fun. @Tim: Clojurescript UI programming being *way* out of my comfort zone, I learned quite a lot from you yesterday. So thank *you*. @Everyone: To clarify / reiterate: You do *not* need a plan, a project, or a specific problem. If you want to work through Project Euler, 4clojure, clojure-koans, the ClojureBridge materials, some other clojure tutorial, or just play it by ear, I am happy to try it out. --Leif On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:00:17 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: I just came from an office hours session, yesterday with Leif. This is good stuff guys, and a great way to learn and meet with other developers. Highly recommended. Thanks Leif Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.nojavascript: wrote: Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar experience - in my company we can consult with an industry hero yet people use the opportunity seldom, presumably because of multiple factors: they (wrongly) don't feel that they do not have something important/interesting enough to bother him, they are little scared of talking to and exposing themselves and their work to this experienced guy, and might find it difficult to explain their challenge to an outsider and get an advice within the limited time scope. On the other hand, those who dare to use the opportunity benefit from it greatly. Good luck, Jakub On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:13:18 AM UTC+2, Leif wrote: Hmm... less interest than I'd expected, given recent posts. Maybe I should rename the thread to Free Clojure Consulting / Tutoring. Tht's not spammy. FYI, all bookings are automatically confirmed, so don't fret if I don't instantly respond. @Tim: Sounds good! Of course, now I'll have to take some time this weekend and try to actually understand Om. :) (or maybe ?o_0? ) --Leif On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:56:37 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: Sounds great. I just sent a request. Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Colin Fleming colin.ma...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Leif, This sounds like a very interesting project, please report back and let us know how it went! I'd be very interested to know. Cheers, Colin On 11 April 2014 00:53, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Leif, thanks for the great session today. Not only did I get a jump start on my next 4Clojure problems, but I learned some emacs as well! Very enjoyable, and I look forward to next week's session. THANK YOU! All, if you're trying to get a jumpstart on Clojure, I highly recommend Leif's office hours. -Marcus On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Leif leif.poor...@gmail.com wrote: @Jakub: Thanks for your kind words. I'm definitely no industry hero, but I hope Clojure devs of all levels start having more pair programming fun. @Tim: Clojurescript UI programming being way out of my comfort zone, I learned quite a lot from you yesterday. So thank you. @Everyone: To clarify / reiterate: You do not need a plan, a project, or a specific problem. If you want to work through Project Euler, 4clojure, clojure-koans, the ClojureBridge materials, some other clojure tutorial, or just play it by ear, I am happy to try it out. --Leif On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:00:17 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: I just came from an office hours session, yesterday with Leif. This is good stuff guys, and a great way to learn and meet with other developers. Highly recommended. Thanks Leif Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Jakub Holy jakub...@iterate.no wrote: Hi Leif, This is a great activity, thank you for contributing to the community this way! Do not be surprise and discouraged by the fact that the interest seems low. I have a similar experience - in my company we can consult with an industry hero yet people use the opportunity seldom, presumably because of multiple factors: they (wrongly) don't feel that they do not have something important/interesting enough to bother him, they are little scared of talking to and exposing themselves and their work to this experienced guy, and might find it difficult to explain their challenge to an outsider and get an advice within the limited time scope. On the other hand, those who dare to use the opportunity benefit from it greatly. Good luck, Jakub On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:13:18 AM UTC+2, Leif wrote: Hmm... less interest than I'd expected, given recent posts. Maybe I should rename the thread to Free Clojure Consulting / Tutoring. Tht's not spammy. FYI, all bookings are automatically confirmed, so don't fret if I don't instantly respond. @Tim: Sounds good! Of course, now I'll have to take some time this weekend and try to actually understand Om. :) (or maybe ?o_0? ) --Leif On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:56:37 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: Sounds great. I just sent a request. Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Colin Fleming colin.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Leif, This sounds like a very interesting project, please report back and let us know how it went! I'd be very interested to know. Cheers, Colin On 11 April 2014 00:53, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message
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Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Thanks, Leif, I greatly enjoyed our first session and look forward to the next! On Apr 10, 2014, at 5:53 AM, Leif leif.poor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Best, Marcus Marcus Blankenship \\\ Problem Solver, Linear Thinker \\\ 541.805.2736 \ @justzeros \ skype:marcuscreo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi Leif, This sounds like a very interesting project, please report back and let us know how it went! I'd be very interested to know. Cheers, Colin On 11 April 2014 00:53, Leif leif.poor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Sounds great. I just sent a request. Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Colin Fleming colin.mailingl...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Leif, This sounds like a very interesting project, please report back and let us know how it went! I'd be very interested to know. Cheers, Colin On 11 April 2014 00:53, Leif leif.poor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hmm... less interest than I'd expected, given recent posts. Maybe I should rename the thread to Free Clojure Consulting / Tutoring. Tht's not spammy. FYI, all bookings are automatically confirmed, so don't fret if I don't instantly respond. @Tim: Sounds good! Of course, now I'll have to take some time this weekend and try to actually understand Om. :) (or maybe ?o_0? ) --Leif On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:56:37 AM UTC-4, frye wrote: Sounds great. I just sent a request. Tim Washington Interruptsoftware.com http://interruptsoftware.com On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Colin Fleming colin.ma...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hi Leif, This sounds like a very interesting project, please report back and let us know how it went! I'd be very interested to know. Cheers, Colin On 11 April 2014 00:53, Leif leif.p...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hi, everybody. Inspired by the SF Bay Area clojure group, ClojureBridge, and the great talks on community education from Clojure/West on youtube, I've decided to try holding my own personal Clojure office hours (online). I am personally of the opinion that face-to-face interaction is superior, so you may want to get your local user group to follow the Bay Area's lead. But if you don't agree, or you don't live near such a user group, then read on. Borrowed from the Bay Area's posting: This is a [2-person] meetup for anyone who is working on a Clojure project and wants to talk over their code or approach with an experienced Clojure developer. Projects of all levels and complexity are welcome, anyone just getting started in Clojure is encouraged to come in and talk through their first Euler or 4Clojure problems. Disclaimer: This community being what it is, there may be projects of too high a complexity for me, but I'll give it a shot. I'm going to try a test run of this for two weeks, and then I'll have to see what state I'm in (mentally and geographically). If interested, you can book at this link: https://leifpoorman.youcanbook.me/ Note: all the times are evening, US Eastern. That pretty much limits it to the western hemisphere and any east asian friends that want to do some morning hacking. Eastern hemisphere friends, make noise on this thread, and maybe some brave European/Asian clojure developer will try something similar. Cheers, Leif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
