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> FYI - I published the Fedora 34 GCP image to the `fedora-cloud` project in
> GCP.
> See https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/328 for more details.
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> OK, the problem isn't with the key, it is with Putty.
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> Does Fedora cloud images support EFI boot?
> Or better, there are images built to boot on EFI platforms?
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> plan is to move Fedora Cloud under Fedora Server's umbrella.
Awesome. Are you, by any chance, going to be at Flock this summer?
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See https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/139
I'm looking into what we can do about the non-official and possibly malicious
AMIs, but a first-line defense should be making sure we expand to these
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So, thinking back to "These folks generally prefer not to use "antiquated"
media like email and IRC at all", maybe the answer is _not a mailing list at
all_? I've been thinking of spinning up Discourse instance in OpenShift (either
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I don't think we want to direct all Fedora-related Atomic development
discussion to projectatomic.io -- I don't think that's very discoverable for
people in the Fedora community and will lead to confusion about 1) Fedora
Atomic Host
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Because we do the nodocs and not all langs thing, the base docker image is
missing files that prevent deltarpms from working on `dnf update`. This slows
things down and wastes time when doing docker build.
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For what it's worth, I was talking with a Red Hat filesystems engineer and he
strongly recommended moving to XFS across all of Fedora. Pretty much the only
downside is lack of filesystem shrinking, and I don't think that's a big issue
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I still think we need a much, much more modular systemd package to address
this, rather than a fake one.
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That's less than I expected, really. :)
(And some of it really random. From coreutils, we loose `pinky` but not
`base32` (which isn't in EL7 and I'd never heard of... but that's another
story.)
I'd really love to see a bug
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Is it possible to make the minimal image the base of the regular image? That
seems ideal from a testing perspective (not to mention explosion of streams).
I've had in the back of my mind for a while the idea of fedora-minimal and
t; reporting on soon... :)
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I like the idea of building only when something changes, although as Dusty
pointed out to me, that's practically a moot point for monthly updated images,
as there's _always_ going to be something that's changed in that time.
For
using the normal (two-week) release process".
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Sounds good to me.
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Can we combine 3 & 5 into one point?
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I can't make this. But, do you have someone from Modularity and/or Base
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I'd like to look at the logs still. :)
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It *also* just came up in the latest Marketing meeting.
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 06:11:50PM +0100, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> Tested the Cloud-Base vagrant virtualbox image with the puppet selinux
> modules acceptance tests (https://github.com/voxpupuli/puppet-selinux).
> Looks good.
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If yes we need people to volunteer for that.
I don't think we should put a huge amount of work into the wiki, at
least for public consumption. (It's okay for SIG/WG workspace.) I
*hope* that we will have our revitalized docs infrastructure online
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image, there is some additional stuff -- including having both python2
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The Fedora approach would be to create a
[Copr](https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/).
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releases.)
8. Decide if we want to switch Cloud Base entirely to this
automatic process and eschew release milestones
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_I_ think it makes sense to have that on a prerelease page, but I'll let others
weigh in too.
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I think that we should start producing prelease images immediately at the
branch (later this month — 2017-02-21) as part of the two-week process. I don't
think there should be specific Alpha/Beta builds.
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I meant here:
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for "Fedora".
Is there any way to get download numbers over time? That would be very
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ing test about auditd, which got automatically fixed. We
> did not make any changes on the tests.
Yeah, but... how could that go wrong in this way?
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FAILED (failures=1)
How is it that useradd is not found in this image but everything else
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I think we can simplify the rules to
1. RootFS: 25% of disk space, with a minimum of 3GB and a maximum of 16GB
2. Docker Partition: maximum of 50% of total disk space
3. Leave anything else unallocated
No need to specify a rule for
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This should be easy to do with anaconda-based installs, but how would this work
with images?
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testing on Autocloud
> > with 2 CPU(s) or get this issue fixed somehow?
> I think we need to find out what the issue is and fix it.
+1. I wonder if this is actually a widespread problem that we've just
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Hi David. I _do_, but we've been blocked on legal for... years. Email me or hit
me up on IRC and I can give you details, but the short of it is that Fedora
can't sign anything promising support beyond the community support we offer —
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 07:11:16AM -0700, Mike Ruckman wrote:
> > With the power of roshi we might be able to make this happen!
> > Also, I think he likes beer.
> It's on my list of things that need a test plan :)
Nice! Now, what else can I wish for....
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> Dear Matthew Miller,
>
> I see you commented about AWS Seoul region about a year ago. But we still
> don't have fedora cloud AMI listed in Seoul region..
>
> If this issue was forgotten because no one ever u
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following:
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This [opened in
January](https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/now-open-aws-asia-pacific-seoul-region/)
and we missed it. (If we were in the Amazon Marketplace, this would happen
automatically. Oh well.)
See
ask, can you please point me
> to the correct place?
I would suggest either adding to this ticket
https://pagure.io/fedora-websites/issue/57
or filing a new one in that tracker.
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ief statement
> Even though that is the intended use, the usage description should be
> uniform and state what capability or function is provided.
> Actual usage pattern for code is always more interesting than intended use.
... and doesn't the "description" cover that
probably
follow a consistent convention.
Also, looks like instead of "usage", that recommends:
help Command to run the help command of the image
runCommand to run the image
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standard wording for that? Like
USAGE: Invoked by $OTHERCONTAINER
or
USAGE: Invoked by Kubernetes when $WHATEVERTRIGGERS
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> > randomly allows to ssh again.
> > I could not reproduce this using the same images over our OpenStack
> > cloud. Any tips will be helpful to find the cause.
> >
> Can we get together and debug this?
Is this a key-generation entropy problem?
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> discuss this further on its own.
So, good news — we're very, very close to having it so you can drop
taskotron checks into dist-git and have them run automatically when the
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a look at
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-eb3447f0f7 and at
the bottom in the "Feedback Guidelines", see "Test Case calc
interactive" and "Test Case calc regress".
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he Cloud Base Image to merge with Fedora
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@jberkus Whatever was wrong before seems fixed now.
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@jberkus I suspect it's related to the FAS change to use kerberos. Maybe
someone from the infra team can help.
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I'm seeing that problem too. It was working previously, so I'm not sure
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dipping into the process. And, hey, it's an easy example of a
containerized command-line tool.
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On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 05:01:56PM -0500, Dusty Mabe wrote:
> I have been identified as a stakeholder of this image and have an
> action item to deliver some paragraph that indicates such to sgallagh.
So I'll check this one off as Dusty's problem now? :)
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I think we had general agreement around what we want to do here:
have the Cloud Base Image become instead Fedora Server, but shipped
as a cloud image and made available in cloud providers. What are the
next steps to actually get there?
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> We can enable motdgen.service at system boot. This will execute atomic and
> dnf commands only during first boot and cache the results.
I'm concerned that this'll make the first boot annoying slow. Can we just run
it from a systemd
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CentOS isn't officially there directly - it's provided by SoftLayer. I'm not
sure of all of the details behind that.
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We are probably still blocked on legal issues for getting a listing, but that
doesn't mean it shouldn't _work_. We could also better document the process by
which users can get the image uploaded themselves.
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followup articles with things
like "set up Wordpress in a container on Fedora Atomic" with pre-cooked
configs for doing that with a button press.
To try it (Fedora 24), click this: https://dply.co/b/fz95S8RH
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I have two small ones.
First, I think the freshness indicator is not visible enough in the top bar.
Maybe that's just me. I guess, for one thing, it's easy to gloss over
header-section text, but also, there's no indication that
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Should we update Josh's wiki page above or put proposals here?
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> Where fedora/apache has > 1 million pulls,
Once we've transitioned to the new system, let's make sure we don't lose this —
we need a plan to get the images from the new build system to the docker hub
somehow.
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op the first
> httpd and make it registry.fedoraproject.org/httpd:latest
I'd hate to make it top-level simply because modularity forgot to
handle this because we forgot to tell them...
> Thoughts? Should we bring this to the modularity group for review?
Yes. Oh, for @-mentions in email. I'll
(just
the label, nothing in the path at all). Does that present any practical
problems that I'm not seeing?
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build infrastruture, mostly), but it'd be a lot
more valuable if they pulled in updates. (It'd actually be good to have
one with updates-testing, too, as an early-warning system.)
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security team tells us to, and they
didn't as far as I know reach out to say so in this case. (I think
usually that's been for issues classified as "critical".)
We *did* have aspirations of releasing respun cloud images monthly in
any case, though
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What's the status of all of this?
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/autocloud/jobs/326
Rawhide still completely failing,
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/autocloud/jobs/324
and no F24 composes at all?
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, too.
I think we should have the ability to selectively pull things like this
into Atomic from updates-testing. This seems like a poster-child case
for when that might be a good idea. (But I don't see anything there,
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ividually.
The release does give us an excuse for PR, but it's my sense that two
releases a year is a little overwhelming for that — we are still
getting F24 reviews coming in. And, since column inches are
(figuratively these days!) limited, generally the press we get is 90%
desktop, with only ment
work
with the new Atomic-focused design. For that matter, we could launch
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ce Release Blocker is the only big attention-forcing hammer we have,
we tend to hit too many things with it. We need a different way.
> Now, we could discuss alternatives, such as having
> Atomic Host being able to carry its own overrides
> temporarily.
As you know, I'm in favor of this po
World of Modularity, there's going to be more
and more stuff like this. If the base runtime is updating on a one
month cycle, and GNOME updating whenever the upstream x.y.1 is ready,
and server roles all coming out as each is updated... a "release" is
more a line
Fedora-Atomic-25? Manual
changes? Is there a documented SOP for this?
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It probably will, but I think it answers the question about whether
making it a release-blocker for everything else is even possible.
For F26, would it be possible to start building it at branch from
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se images will be composed out of existing
RPMs, is there any reason to _not_ keep both branches? We basically get
that "for free" in terms of human effort (although not build time and
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"stream". Or whatever equivalent term to that is chosen.
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e release blocking, because if it
misses the grand unified release, we have the ability to update it at
the next cycle, so it's less of a big deal. But if we collectively
prefer to make sure everything is lined up on the release day... I can
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and use in other cloud systems"
Docker Image
"`docker pull fedora`, or download directly to run on Atomic"
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groups: hardware, cloud/virt/vagrant,
atomic host, and containers/modules. Or something like that. But that's
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ster but playing it safe isn't inherently a bad approach
> > either.
> When is F26 out?
Next June.
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od condition after one week of F25 release, we can then enable
> it default in the next 2WA release.
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suggest enabling it in permissive mode, and then finding what exactly
is being blocked — and then, ideay, trying to get it fixed.
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the ability to use the Dockerfiles.
The Plan of Record is to move away from that repository and to a
dist-git style collection of repositories as part of
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Layered_Docker_Image_Build_Service
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> fedmsg as part of the release process. I'm going to refactor the code
> to only handle the N and N+1 stable release hosting and then work with
> the websites team to handle the "latest" download target.
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> CC for any critical bugs you find.
> Or alternatively, raise any blockers on the cloud@ or atomic-devel@ lists.
As I understand it, AutoCloud creates these issues:
https://pagure.io/atomic-images/issues
We should probably subscribe one or both of those lists to those
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— be blocking, I'd like to it as see an updated, automatically-tested
two-week image. Ideally, we'd have a solid one on release day, but if
we don't for some reason, it'd be less of a crisis.
We also, obviously, have a process breakdown with what to do with
failure reports from autocl
image _probably_ the same — or maybe becomes its own
thing?
9. ???
10. Profit!
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s that are currently bottlenecks
here.
And I think we can work directly with CentOS — we don't need to go
through a third party to play nicely together. :)
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ices? We have AMI(s) right now, we also push to Digital
> Ocean.
This effort is stalled and I don't have much hope. I think we might
have better luck coming at it from a different direction anyway.
I hope all of that makes sense!
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