Re: [atomic-devel] Need owner of Atomic 2 Week releases

2015-11-23 Thread Adam Miller
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 3:26 AM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote: > >> On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Amanda Carter wrote: >>> Hey folks, creating a separate thread for this longer

Re: [atomic-devel] Need owner of Atomic 2 Week releases

2015-11-21 Thread Brian (bex) Exelbierd
> On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Amanda Carter wrote: >> Hey folks, creating a separate thread for this longer term discussion. We're >> getting ready to release our first 2 week atomic update on

Re: Need owner of Atomic 2 Week releases

2015-11-13 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Amanda Carter wrote: > Hey folks, creating a separate thread for this longer term discussion. We're > getting ready to release our first 2 week atomic update on Tuesday and Dusty > Mabe has raised 2 potential release blockers that were not

Need owner of Atomic 2 Week releases

2015-11-13 Thread Amanda Carter
Hey folks, creating a separate thread for this longer term discussion. We're getting ready to release our first 2 week atomic update on Tuesday and Dusty Mabe has raised 2 potential release blockers that were not part of automated testing. It's good that he caught them, but it's also a bit of a

Re: Need owner of Atomic 2 Week releases

2015-11-13 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 11/13/2015 10:41 AM, Amanda Carter wrote: Hey folks, creating a separate thread for this longer term discussion. We're getting ready to release our first 2 week atomic update on Tuesday and Dusty Mabe has raised 2 potential release blockers that were not part of automated testing. It's

Re: Need owner of Atomic 2 Week releases

2015-11-13 Thread Michael McGrath
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Michael McGrath wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Josh Boyer > wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 11/13/2015 10:41 AM, Amanda Carter wrote:

Re: [atomic-devel] Atomic 2 week releases

2015-04-08 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015, at 02:51 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: Copr doesn't count. Talked to Tom Callaway about this briefly just now and basically - it must be built in Koji to be part of a Spin, unless we get an exception. A side tag as mattdm mentioned somewhere solves that, no need to rename.

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-04-07 Thread Colin Walters
[ Resurrecting, adding atomic-devel CC ] On Mon, Mar 9, 2015, at 11:34 AM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: Hey all, I wanted to start a thread about doing more frequent Atomic releases in Fedora. In particular I'd like to start building a new atomic release every two weeks that includes the

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-24 Thread Kushal Das
On 13/03/15, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 05:13 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: Yeah. We can do much better than we are now at just running through the current official process. Also, rather crucially there are no trademark concerns with images generated from

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 04:35:45PM -0500, Ian McLeod wrote: So the Atomic spins would be $current + the updates-testing packages we care about (and have tested / have some influence over). That spin would then be copied to the mirrors and we'd be able to link to it. Actually, the idea is

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 03/13/2015 02:04 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: I get that there are several offerings that Fedora has, I don't feel compelled to list them all on projectatomic.io to people who likely won't have the information to make an informed decision anyway. We pick one for them, give a few word

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 03/13/2015 02:20 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: Perhaps we're already aligned then. What would Fedora pick as its 'best' Atomic release and how often does it get released? Not exclusively my call, of course, but I would choose the rapid-release version over a version that follows the

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Michael P. McGrath
- Original Message - From: Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com To: Michael P. McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com, Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 1:16:41 PM Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases On 03/13/2015 02:04 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: I

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Ian McLeod
On 03/13/2015 02:58 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 02:26:42PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: We are on the hook for an Atomic Host release for F22, but I think I'd rather message why we're putting our weight behind a rapid-release host based on Fedora than dealing with two

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 05:13:29PM -0400, Michael P. McGrath wrote: - Original Message - From: Ian McLeod imcl...@fedoraproject.org To: cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:08:46 PM Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases On 03/13/2015 02:58 PM, Matthew

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 02:26:42PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: We are on the hook for an Atomic Host release for F22, but I think I'd rather message why we're putting our weight behind a rapid-release host based on Fedora than dealing with two competing Fedora-based offerings. Has the spinner

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-13 Thread Michael P. McGrath
- Original Message - From: Ian McLeod imcl...@fedoraproject.org To: cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:08:46 PM Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases On 03/13/2015 02:58 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 02:26:42PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 01:09:16PM -0400, Michael P. McGrath wrote: Stable in current, devel in rawhide. We just don't yet have the toolchains to split different versions of our packages onto the same Fedora. We'll have to see if there's a way to do it when Adam joins up. If it turns out to

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 03/09/2015 12:03 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: - Original Message - From: Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:45:42 AM Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases On 03/09/2015 11:34 AM, Michael P. McGrath

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-11 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 03/10/2015 06:37 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: I know Stephen is working on how Spins and other non-Edition images are dealt with, and the Council is very interested in this as well. That isn't in place yet, and to be honest I would be surprised if it was for F22 at all. Perhaps Atomic has

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: This is not entirely true, it is just part of the picture. You can install on bare metal using anaconda with extlinux, exactly the same as we do to make the cloud image. But it is not advertised or really well documented. But that

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-11 Thread Dennis Gilmore
Sorry I replied to this earlier but seems it got lost somewhere, or maybe I just thought I did, either way On Monday, March 09, 2015 01:17:44 PM Colin Walters wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Adam Miller wrote: For those not familiar with the current release process of Atomic, can

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-10 Thread Michael P. McGrath
- Original Message - From: Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 8:02:34 PM Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 06:37:28PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: Please consider

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-10 Thread Michael P. McGrath
- Original Message - From: Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:31:27 AM Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases On 03/09/2015 12:03 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: - Original Message - From

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-10 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 03/10/2015 01:09 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: - Original Message - From: Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:31:27 AM Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases On 03/09/2015 12:03 PM, Michael P. McGrath

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 06:37:28PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: Please consider this in-depth. A Spin might sound good for a number of reasons and those might be the most important factor. However at the moment with Atomic being a deliverable of the Cloud Edition, its placement in the various

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-10 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 03/10/2015 02:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: So, I'm wondering if for F22 (or F23, if we feel like that ship is out in the harbor losing sight of land already), we want to do one of two things: A. Move Atomic out of the Cloud Edition, and treat it as a spin, with a home at

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-10 Thread Adam Miller
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/10/2015 02:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: So, I'm wondering if for F22 (or F23, if we feel like that ship is out in the harbor losing sight of land already), we want to do one of two things: A. Move Atomic out of the

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 01:17:44PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: Keep in mind that the original vision for Atomic was *not* to be a distribution itself - merely technology that flows-into/is-consumed-by the 3 distribution family. So when we're talking about release process for Atomic, that

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Adam Miller maxamill...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/10/2015 02:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: So, I'm wondering if for F22 (or F23, if we feel like that ship is out in the harbor losing

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Adam Miller maxamill...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/10/2015 02:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: So, I'm wondering

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 03/09/2015 03:34 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: Hey all, I wanted to start a thread about doing more frequent Atomic releases in Fedora. In particular I'd like to start building a new atomic release every two weeks that includes the latest version of Docker, Kubernetes, and OSTree for the

Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Michael P. McGrath
Hey all, I wanted to start a thread about doing more frequent Atomic releases in Fedora. In particular I'd like to start building a new atomic release every two weeks that includes the latest version of Docker, Kubernetes, and OSTree for the Fedora Atomic images. The problem I'm trying to

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 03/09/2015 11:34 AM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: Hey all, I wanted to start a thread about doing more frequent Atomic releases in Fedora. In particular I'd like to start building a new atomic release every two weeks that includes the latest version of Docker, Kubernetes, and OSTree for

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Michael P. McGrath
- Original Message - From: Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com To: Fedora Cloud SIG cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:45:42 AM Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases On 03/09/2015 11:34 AM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: Hey all, I wanted to start a thread about

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Haïkel
As part of the Cloud WG, this is something we wanted to do from the beginning. Personally, I'd prefer having two sets of images: * unstable: based on rawhide * testing: based on current stable + newer set of packages The main blocker is our infrastructure, which is something that Kushal and Mike

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015, at 11:34 AM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: Hey all, I wanted to start a thread about doing more frequent Atomic releases in Fedora. In particular I'd like to start building a new atomic release every two weeks that includes the latest version of Docker, Kubernetes, and

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Adam Miller wrote: For those not familiar with the current release process of Atomic, can you provide a link to documentation on how that is done as well as what tooling is involved? Keep in mind that the original vision for Atomic was *not* to be a

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Adam Miller
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Michael P. McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: Hey all, I wanted to start a thread about doing more frequent Atomic releases in Fedora. In particular I'd like to start building a new atomic release every two weeks that includes the latest version of Docker,

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Michael P. McGrath
- Original Message - From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org To: cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 12:40:39 PM Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases On Mon, Mar 9, 2015, at 11:34 AM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: Hey all, I wanted to start a thread about doing

Re: Atomic 2 week releases

2015-03-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015, at 02:49 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: This one's new to me, I'm aware of the issues with building images but I was under the impression that the composed OStree was still happening successfully whenever rawhide was building. Are you saying there are sometimes where