Re: [cmake-developers] Faster automoc with parallel processing?

2012-06-19 Thread Thomas Sondergaard

Hi Alexander,

Thanks for replying.


On 2012-06-18 21:58, Alexander Neundorf wrote:

On Sunday 17 June 2012, Thomas Sondergaard wrote:



  On Windows with MSVC 2010 Generator, moc seems to be very slow and it is
  a paint to see it run sequentially. Could automoc be taught to do this
  in parallel using all the cores on the machine?

is certainly good enough as an answer ? ;-)


It's a good start :-)


The thing is, for each target there is an accompanying automoc target.
So if you have 4 cores, and 4 targets are built in parallel, then also 4
(auto)mocs should be running in parallel.

If you have only 1 target, consisting of many files, only 1 automoc
target will be executed, processing one moc after the other.


Interesting. I haven't actually fully switched to automoc, I have only 
tested it on one target in a project with +50 targets. Perhaps the 
situation will look better if I automoc everything.



Parallelizing this is not obvious. Simply running as many mocs on a
machine as it has cores might lead to 16 mocs running on 4 cores (for 4
different targets).


I think overparallization is better than underparallization. I don't 
think running 16 parallel mocs at a time on a 4 core machine should be 
dramatically slower than running 4. An experiment could show.



So, it is possible, it is some implementation work, and I'm not clear on
how to do the logic.

Do you have some ideas how to do this in a good way ?


automoc could start a background process and use that to handle all 
moc'ing. The process could stop after a few seconds of inactivity. That 
way moc would never use more than the number of cores in the machine, 
but it might overlap with other build activity. It doesn't seem sensible 
that automoc should only be concerned about overutilization from other 
mocs. Perhaps the best way is simply to look at the load-average, like 
make --load-average?


Regards,

Thomas

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[cmake-developers] [CMake 0013316]: FIND_PACKAGE ( X11 REQUIRED ) returns garbage...

2012-06-19 Thread Mantis Bug Tracker

The following issue has been SUBMITTED. 
== 
http://public.kitware.com/Bug/view.php?id=13316 
== 
Reported By:George Petasis
Assigned To:
== 
Project:CMake
Issue ID:   13316
Category:   CMake
Reproducibility:always
Severity:   block
Priority:   normal
Status: new
== 
Date Submitted: 2012-06-19 05:29 EDT
Last Modified:  2012-06-19 05:29 EDT
== 
Summary:FIND_PACKAGE ( X11 REQUIRED ) returns garbage...
Description: 
Hi all,

The following code:

MESSAGE ( STATUS Searching for X11... )
FIND_PACKAGE ( X11 REQUIRED )
IF ( X11_FOUND )
  INCLUDE_DIRECTORIES ( ${X11_INCLUDE_DIR} )
  LINK_LIBRARIES  ( ${X11_LIBRARIES} )
  MESSAGE ( STATUS   X11_INCLUDE_DIR:  ${X11_INCLUDE_DIR} )
  MESSAGE ( STATUS   X11_LIBRARIES:${X11_LIBRARIES} )
ENDIF ( X11_FOUND )

Prints under Fedora 17:

Searching for X11...
-- Looking for XOpenDisplay in /usr/lib/libX11.so;/usr/lib/libXext.so
-- Looking for XOpenDisplay in /usr/lib/libX11.so;/usr/lib/libXext.so - found
-- Looking for gethostbyname
-- Looking for gethostbyname - found
-- Looking for connect
-- Looking for connect - found
-- Looking for remove
-- Looking for remove - found
-- Looking for shmat
-- Looking for shmat - found
-- Looking for IceConnectionNumber in ICE
-- Looking for IceConnectionNumber in ICE - found
-- Found X11: /usr/lib/libX11.so
--   X11_INCLUDE_DIR:
/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include/usr/include
--   X11_LIBRARIES:  
/usr/lib/libSM.so/usr/lib/libICE.so/usr/lib/libX11.so/usr/lib/libXext.so

== 

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[cmake-developers] [CMake 0013317]: Generated moc files are not cleaned

2012-06-19 Thread Mantis Bug Tracker

The following issue has been SUBMITTED. 
== 
http://www.cmake.org/Bug/view.php?id=13317 
== 
Reported By:Rolf Eike Beer
Assigned To:Alex Neundorf
== 
Project:CMake
Issue ID:   13317
Category:   CMake
Reproducibility:always
Severity:   minor
Priority:   normal
Status: assigned
== 
Date Submitted: 2012-06-19 05:59 EDT
Last Modified:  2012-06-19 05:59 EDT
== 
Summary:Generated moc files are not cleaned
Description: 
After make clean the automatically generated moc_*.cpp files are still around.
== 

Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
== 
2012-06-19 05:59 Rolf Eike Beer New Issue
2012-06-19 05:59 Rolf Eike Beer Status   new = assigned 
2012-06-19 05:59 Rolf Eike Beer Assigned To   = Alex Neundorf   
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Re: [cmake-developers] Not in next branches on the CMake stage...

2012-06-19 Thread Rolf Eike Beer
On Di., 19. Jun. 2012 19:53:39 CEST, David Cole david.c...@kitware.com wrote:

 Alex and Eike,
 
 The following topic branches have been on the CMake stage for months,
 without any movement. Are there further plans to move these topics
 forward and get them into 'next' or are they simply abandoned at this
 point...?

Shouldn't there be a list here?

Eike
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Re: [cmake-developers] Not in next branches on the CMake stage...

2012-06-19 Thread David Cole
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Rolf Eike Beer e...@sf-mail.de wrote:

 On Di., 19. Jun. 2012 19:53:39 CEST, David Cole david.c...@kitware.com
 wrote:

  Alex and Eike,
 
  The following topic branches have been on the CMake stage for months,
  without any movement. Are there further plans to move these topics
  forward and get them into 'next' or are they simply abandoned at this
  point...?

 Shouldn't there be a list here?

 Eike



Uh, why yes, of course. Perhaps since it's after lunch now, I should
consider pouring myself a second cup of coffee for the day.

(A call to 'ssh g...@cmake.org stage cmake print' shows next=0 for those
branches not in 'next' at any given moment)

  # Not in 'next':
  #   debug-messages | master=0 next=0
  #lib64-cleanup | master=0 next=0
  # NinjaEclipse | master=0 next=0


Thx,
David
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Re: [cmake-developers] Not in next branches on the CMake stage...

2012-06-19 Thread Rolf Eike Beer
 (A call to 'ssh g...@cmake.org stage cmake print' shows next=0 for those
 branches not in 'next' at any given moment)

   # Not in 'next':
   #   debug-messages | master=0 next=0

We didn't reach consensus about that, so I removed it.

   #lib64-cleanup | master=0 next=0

I've removed that too, but not entirely. I've split out the things that I
see as uncritical and but them in their own branches and merged to next.
The other cleanups I'll push again after 2.8.9.

Eike
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Re: [cmake-developers] Not in next branches on the CMake stage...

2012-06-19 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Tuesday 19 June 2012, David Cole wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Rolf Eike Beer e...@sf-mail.de wrote:
  On Di., 19. Jun. 2012 19:53:39 CEST, David Cole david.c...@kitware.com
  
  wrote:
   Alex and Eike,
   
   The following topic branches have been on the CMake stage for months,
   without any movement. Are there further plans to move these topics
   forward and get them into 'next' or are they simply abandoned at this
   point...?
  
  Shouldn't there be a list here?
  
  Eike
 
 Uh, why yes, of course. Perhaps since it's after lunch now, I should
 consider pouring myself a second cup of coffee for the day.
 
 (A call to 'ssh g...@cmake.org stage cmake print' shows next=0 for those
 branches not in 'next' at any given moment)
 
   # Not in 'next':
...
   # NinjaEclipse | master=0 next=0

At some point I want to get this working.
I'm actually not convinced I'll continue on what I have there, or whether to 
start fresh.
If it's a problem for you, feel free to remove it.

Alex




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Re: [cmake-developers] Not in next branches on the CMake stage...

2012-06-19 Thread David Cole
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Alexander Neundorf neund...@kde.orgwrote:

 **

 On Tuesday 19 June 2012, David Cole wrote:

  On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Rolf Eike Beer e...@sf-mail.de wrote:

   On Di., 19. Jun. 2012 19:53:39 CEST, David Cole 
 david.c...@kitware.com

  

   wrote:

Alex and Eike,

   

The following topic branches have been on the CMake stage for months,

without any movement. Are there further plans to move these topics

forward and get them into 'next' or are they simply abandoned at this

point...?

  

   Shouldn't there be a list here?

  

   Eike

 

  Uh, why yes, of course. Perhaps since it's after lunch now, I should

  consider pouring myself a second cup of coffee for the day.

 

  (A call to 'ssh g...@cmake.org stage cmake print' shows next=0 for
 those

  branches not in 'next' at any given moment)

 

  # Not in 'next':

 ...

  # NinjaEclipse | master=0 next=0

 At some point I want to get this working.

 I'm actually not convinced I'll continue on what I have there, or whether
 to start fresh.

 If it's a problem for you, feel free to remove it.

 Alex


Not really a problem -- just asking about them to find out the intended
eventual fate of each branch.

Thanks for your responses.


D
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[cmake-developers] [CMake 0013320]: UINT32_C() et al. macro shenanigans break build on HP-UX

2012-06-19 Thread Mantis Bug Tracker

The following issue has been SUBMITTED. 
== 
http://public.kitware.com/Bug/view.php?id=13320 
== 
Reported By:Daniel R. Gomez
Assigned To:
== 
Project:CMake
Issue ID:   13320
Category:   CMake
Reproducibility:always
Severity:   minor
Priority:   normal
Status: new
== 
Date Submitted: 2012-06-19 16:08 EDT
Last Modified:  2012-06-19 16:08 EDT
== 
Summary:UINT32_C() et al. macro shenanigans break build on
HP-UX
Description: 
Bootstrapping CMake 2.8.8 on this HP-UX system fails with

[  1%] Building C object
Utilities/KWIML/test/CMakeFiles/cmIML_test.dir/test_INT_C.c.o
cd /tmp/cmake-build/Utilities/KWIML/test  /opt/tg/bin/tg-gcc 
-DKWIML_NAMESPACE=cmIML -DKWIML_LANGUAGE_C -DKWIML_LANGUAGE_CXX -pipe -W -Wall
-Wcast-align -Wformat=2 -Wpointer-arith -Wundef -mpa-risc-2-0 -O3  -Wno-format
-I/tmp/cmake-build/Utilities/KWIML/test -I/tmp/cmake-build/Utilities-o
CMakeFiles/cmIML_test.dir/test_INT_C.c.o   -c
/home/src/cmake-2.8.8/Utilities/KWIML/test/test_INT_C.c
In file included from
/home/src/cmake-2.8.8/Utilities/KWIML/test/test_INT_C.c:14:0:
/tmp/cmake-build/Utilities/KWIML/test/test_INT_format.h: In function
'test_INT_format':
/tmp/cmake-build/Utilities/KWIML/test/test_INT_format.h:195:1: error: pasting
) and l does not give a valid preprocessing token
/tmp/cmake-build/Utilities/KWIML/test/test_INT_format.h:195:3: error: expected
',' or ';' before 'l'
gmake[2]: *** [Utilities/KWIML/test/CMakeFiles/cmIML_test.dir/test_INT_C.c.o]
Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/cmake-build'
gmake[1]: *** [Utilities/KWIML/test/CMakeFiles/cmIML_test.dir/all] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/cmake-build'
gmake: *** [all] Error 2


The test_INT_format.h makes use of a symbol UINT32_C, and others like it. This
is defined in inttypes.h:

$ gnu-grep -R UINT32_C /usr/include 
/usr/include/inttypes.h:#define UINT32_C(__c)   
__CONCAT_U__(__c)
/usr/include/inttypes.h:#define UINT32_C(__c)   
__CONCAT__(__CONCAT_U__(__c),l)
/usr/include/inttypes.h:#  define UINT32_MAX UINT32_C(4294967295)

From what I can tell, this macro is being expanded before being passed as an
argument to TEST_C(). I'm not sure how to work around this.
== 

Issue History 
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== 
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Re: [cmake-developers] Faster automoc with parallel processing?

2012-06-19 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Tuesday 19 June 2012, Thomas Sondergaard wrote:
 Hi Alexander,
 
 Thanks for replying.
 
 On 2012-06-18 21:58, Alexander Neundorf wrote:
  On Sunday 17 June 2012, Thomas Sondergaard wrote:
On Windows with MSVC 2010 Generator, moc seems to be very slow and it
is a paint to see it run sequentially. Could automoc be taught to do
this in parallel using all the cores on the machine?
  
  is certainly good enough as an answer ? ;-)
 
 It's a good start :-)
 
  The thing is, for each target there is an accompanying automoc target.
  So if you have 4 cores, and 4 targets are built in parallel, then also 4
  (auto)mocs should be running in parallel.
  
  If you have only 1 target, consisting of many files, only 1 automoc
  target will be executed, processing one moc after the other.
 
 Interesting. I haven't actually fully switched to automoc, I have only
 tested it on one target in a project with +50 targets. Perhaps the
 situation will look better if I automoc everything.
 
  Parallelizing this is not obvious. Simply running as many mocs on a
  machine as it has cores might lead to 16 mocs running on 4 cores (for 4
  different targets).
 
 I think overparallization is better than underparallization. I don't
 think running 16 parallel mocs at a time on a 4 core machine should be
 dramatically slower than running 4. An experiment could show.

Considering a 8 or 16 core machine, this could give already 256 mocs running 
on 16 cores. I think this would then really be a bit much.
I'd actually have to check first whether most of the time is spent in 
executing moc, or in parsing the files for stuff to be moc'ed.
Also the parsing can still be optimized by caching results from earlier runs 
(which it doesn't do right now).
For executing moc, this could also be limited to some number, like 2 or 4, 
which should already bring a lot.

Anyway, currently executing moc is very simple, it's a system-style call, i.e. 
it starts the executable and blocks until the process has exited.
Making this non-blocking is a bit of work.

  So, it is possible, it is some implementation work, and I'm not clear on
  how to do the logic.
  
  Do you have some ideas how to do this in a good way ?
 
 automoc could start a background process and use that to handle all
 moc'ing. The process could stop after a few seconds of inactivity. That
 way moc would never use more than the number of cores in the machine,
 but it might overlap with other build activity. It doesn't seem sensible
 that automoc should only be concerned about overutilization from other
 mocs. Perhaps the best way is simply to look at the load-average, like
 make --load-average?

This must be cross-platform, i.e. work on Windows, OSX, Linux, *BSD, AIX, etc.
This would be quite an effort I think.

Alex
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Re: [cmake-developers] Faster automoc with parallel processing?

2012-06-19 Thread Thomas Sondergaard

On 2012-06-19 22:13, Alexander Neundorf wrote:

Considering a 8 or 16 core machine, this could give already 256 mocs
running on 16 cores. I think this would then really be a bit much.

I'd actually have to check first whether most of the time is spent in
executing moc, or in parsing the files for stuff to be moc'ed.

Also the parsing can still be optimized by caching results from earlier
runs (which it doesn't do right now).

For executing moc, this could also be limited to some number, like 2 or
4, which should already bring a lot.

Anyway, currently executing moc is very simple, it's a system-style
call, i.e. it starts the executable and blocks until the process has exited.

Making this non-blocking is a bit of work.


Right, as it turns out after I have automoc'ed all our projects I am 
getting better parallelity. As you can see on this image I am getting 
good value for my four cores and an incredibuild of our complete package 
is down from about 12 minutes to 8 minutes and 30 seconds.


http://spear.medical-insight.com/~ts/automoc_build_time.png

So a big thanks to you and the CMake crew for giving us automoc support.




  automoc could start a background process and use that to handle all
  moc'ing. The process could stop after a few seconds of inactivity. That
  way moc would never use more than the number of cores in the machine,
  but it might overlap with other build activity. It doesn't seem sensible
  that automoc should only be concerned about overutilization from other
  mocs. Perhaps the best way is simply to look at the load-average, like
  make --load-average?

This must be cross-platform, i.e. work on Windows, OSX, Linux, *BSD,
AIX, etc.

This would be quite an effort I think.


I agree, before spending time on more parallelization it would be 
interesting to take a look at moc itself. It appears to be significantly 
slower on Windows than on Linux.


Thanks again,

Thomas

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Re: [cmake-developers] workflow

2012-06-19 Thread Brad King
On 06/19/2012 04:09 PM, Peter Kümmel wrote:
 Some small questions to the workflow:
 
 - I read on the workflow description site
 
 Topic Branch
  ...
  Heads not published (no named branch on server)
 
 What does this mean? I see all the named branches.

I don't know to what text you refer.  Where did you read this?

 - And when I start browsing at
  http://cmake.org/gitweb
 the stage repository is not listed, is this by accident?

We intentionally left it out to avoid confusing people looking
for the CMake repo.  Developers get the link to the stage from
the Wiki:

 http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake/Git#Repositories

 - Is cmake.git automatically synchronized with stage/master
and stage/next?

Yes.  Actually it is the other way: stage/(master|next) are
fetched from origin/(master|next).  Scripts running in the
stage repo construct the merges but do not update the branches
locally.  Instead the merges must be pushed to origin and
then fetched back from there.  That avoids races between
pushes to the two repos.

The general topic stage workflow is documented here:

 http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/Git/Workflow/Stage

with ascii-art history diagrams at each step.

-Brad
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[cmake-developers] [CMake 0013321]: ABI.h doesn't know about older HP compilers

2012-06-19 Thread Mantis Bug Tracker

The following issue has been SUBMITTED. 
== 
http://public.kitware.com/Bug/view.php?id=13321 
== 
Reported By:Daniel R. Gomez
Assigned To:
== 
Project:CMake
Issue ID:   13321
Category:   CMake
Reproducibility:always
Severity:   minor
Priority:   normal
Status: new
== 
Date Submitted: 2012-06-20 01:55 EDT
Last Modified:  2012-06-20 01:55 EDT
== 
Summary:ABI.h doesn't know about older HP compilers
Description: 
Bootstrapping CMake 2.8.8 on HP-UX 11.00 with the vendor-provided C compiler
fails with

[  0%] Building C object
Utilities/KWIML/test/CMakeFiles/cmIML_test.dir/test_ABI_C.c.o
cd /tmp/cmake-2.8.8/_build/Utilities/KWIML/test  /opt/ansic/bin/cc 
-DKWIML_NAMESPACE=cmIML -DKWIML_LANGUAGE_C -DKWIML_LANGUAGE_CXX -Aa -Ae -Ae
+DA2.0 +ESlit +w1 -z -Wp,-H262144 +O2 
-I/tmp/cmake-2.8.8/_build/Utilities/KWIML/test
-I/tmp/cmake-2.8.8/_build/Utilities-o
CMakeFiles/cmIML_test.dir/test_ABI_C.c.o   -c
/tmp/cmake-2.8.8/Utilities/KWIML/test/test_ABI_C.c
cpp: /tmp/cmake-2.8.8/_build/Utilities/cmIML/ABI.h, line 163: error 4062:
Signedness of 'char' unknown.
cpp: /tmp/cmake-2.8.8/_build/Utilities/cmIML/ABI.h, line 257: error 4062:
Existence of 'long long' unknown.
*** Error exit code 1


This compiler does not define __HP_cc nor __HP_aCC. I think it may be necessary
to do the equivalent of

#if defined(__hpux)  \
   !defined(__HP_cc)  \
   !defined(__HP_aCC)  \
   !defined(__GNUC__)

in order to catch this case. (__hpux is specifically mentioned in the cpp(1) man
page.)

Version information on this compiler, for reference:

$ cc -V -c foo.c
cpp.ansi: HP92453-01 A.11.01.20 HP C Preprocessor (ANSI)
ccom: HP92453-01 A.11.01.20 HP C Compiler
== 

Issue History 
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== 
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