Re: Stus-List North Sails cut its price on 3DL sals

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Brown
I ordered a new North #1 this year. The choice was between: 3DL 680   @ $4768.90 - 20% = $3815.12 3Di 760M @ $6381.88 - 20% = $5105.50 The 3Di is about 1/3 more than the 3DL, though likely to last twice as long or more. Previously I had a 3DL which aged very quickly, good for two seasons of about

Re: Stus-List North Sails cut its price on 3DL sals

2014-04-16 Thread Steve Sharkey
Wasn’t planning on it, but let me see how much progress I make on the boat this weekend and whether I can get crew. From: Joel Aronson Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:11 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List North Sails cut its price on 3DL sals We may be the only boats in B!

Re: Stus-List North Sails cut its price on 3DL sals

2014-04-16 Thread Joel Aronson
We may be the only boats in B! Are you doing the AYC overnight? Right now I am the only B boat. On Wednesday, April 16, 2014, Steve Sharkey wrote: > Good – since we’ll probably be in the same class! > > *From:* Joel Aronson > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:56 PM > *To:* > cnc-list@cnc

Re: Stus-List Sat phone minutes

2014-04-16 Thread Joel Aronson
Tim Thanks. Maybe you can join me for Annapolis Newport next year! At least your main is making the trip! Marion seems like an interesting race. Buzzards Bay is a tough place to start from. Joel On Wednesday, April 16, 2014, Tim Goodyear wrote: > Graham Quinn, who runs Harding Sails in Mar

Re: Stus-List North Sails cut its price on 3DL sals

2014-04-16 Thread Steve Sharkey
Good – since we’ll probably be in the same class! From: Joel Aronson Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:56 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List North Sails cut its price on 3DL sals Steve, Not in my budget! Joel On Wednesday, April 16, 2014, Steve Sharkey wrote: Are you

Re: Stus-List Sat phone minutes

2014-04-16 Thread Tim Goodyear
Graham Quinn, who runs Harding Sails in Marion, MA and who helps run the Marion Bermuda race was always trying to get me to enter Mojito, so I am very jealous, and really want to hear how you fare offshore. You will be much more comfortable than the J/111... Have fun! Tim > On Apr 16, 2014,

Re: Stus-List Sat phone minutes

2014-04-16 Thread Joel Aronson
Tim, Funny! You can track me and Steve on www.bermudaoceanrace.com. I'm not subscribing to email. Yes, I will go through withdrawal! Joel On Wednesday, April 16, 2014, Tim Goodyear wrote: > Joel, just a thought, but how many minutes a day is it going to take to > update this list on your pr

Re: Stus-List Sat phone minutes

2014-04-16 Thread Tim Goodyear
Joel, just a thought, but how many minutes a day is it going to take to update this list on your progress? Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Joel Aronson wrote: > All, > > I've managed to borrow an Iridium sat phone model 9555 for the race. I > need to buy airti

Re: Stus-List North Sails cut its price on 3DL sals

2014-04-16 Thread Joel Aronson
Steve, Not in my budget! Joel On Wednesday, April 16, 2014, Steve Sharkey wrote: > Are you getting one for the Bermuda race? > > *From:* Joel Aronson > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:33 PM > *To:* > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Stus-List North Sails cut its price on 3DL sals > >

Re: Stus-List North Sails cut its price on 3DL sals

2014-04-16 Thread Steve Sharkey
Are you getting one for the Bermuda race? From: Joel Aronson Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:33 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List North Sails cut its price on 3DL sals Thought I'd pass along that North cut the price on 3DL sails 13% and is offering a 15% spring discount. Mayb

Re: Stus-List Lee Valley LED Tape

2014-04-16 Thread Graham Collins
Hi Derek I installed it in my v-berth, works well. Did it last spring. I will point out though that you can get a better deal off ebay for strip lighting, I went to Lee Valley 'cause it is on my way home from work... For my install I ended up soldering wires onto the ends of the strips, the

Re: Stus-List Superlube

2014-04-16 Thread Wally Bryant
There is more than one flavor of SuperLube, and they make a good Dielectric Silicone Grease. Wal you wrote: One of the problems with SuperLube seems to be, it is hard to remove. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphoto

Re: Stus-List Bottom paint removal

2014-04-16 Thread Wally Bryant
Get a patent. Wal Rich wrote: I developed this scraper which will fit in any reciprocating saw and uses a carbide blade. It is a lot easier and quicker and the blades last much longer than regular steel blades. Here’s a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2lsNuCrfgk _

Re: Stus-List Sealant or adhesive?

2014-04-16 Thread Wally Bryant
Yeah, some women... you wrote: My hands had traces of that stuff for weeks. It's like India Ink. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Lunar Eclipse

2014-04-16 Thread Frederick G Street
For some weird reason, I woke up at about 2am our time here, too. Cool blood-red moon! Only the second time I’ve seen that. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 16, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Wally Bryant wrote: > We had a full Luna

Stus-List Lunar Eclipse

2014-04-16 Thread Wally Bryant
We had a full Lunar Eclipse down here two nights ago. I got up at 2 a.m. to watch it, because I'm on the hook and there were no lights around. I couldn't see anything, though. It was too dark. Wal ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album h

Re: Stus-List Well, there goes a third of the season...

2014-04-16 Thread Colin Kilgour
The first boat went in at PCYC in Toronto yesterday while the snow was falling and the temperature was below freezing. They're still snowmobiling on the ice near our cottage in Georgian Bay. Last year I was boating up there on April 20. (albeit with some ice floes still around) This is going

Re: Stus-List LF 38 anchor wondlass?

2014-04-16 Thread Wally Bryant
Frank - Yes, the motor and everything important is lodged up in the front of the V Berth, behind the bulkhead. I have actually come to the conclusion that that was a brilliant move. After some hard use, it still works like new, because it has never been wet. I've had too many conversations w

Stus-List North Sails cut its price on 3DL sals

2014-04-16 Thread Joel Aronson
Thought I'd pass along that North cut the price on 3DL sails 13% and is offering a 15% spring discount. Maybe the new ownership is a good thing? Joel 35/3 Annapolis -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncp

Stus-List Bottom paint

2014-04-16 Thread Robert Abbott
Mark: Asking to one of the 'better' options of bottom paint is like asking us what is the 'best' beer. Everyone will have a preference for similar and/or different reasons. Personally, I prefer an ablative paint, if for no other reason, the ease of maintenance. I used Interlux Micron CSC

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Brown
The difference in steering response and accuracy between the previous ST4000 and the current SPX-5 is very substantial on my 30-1. I did make sure there was negligible play in the steering system and installed the rudder feedback sensor, but combinations of wind and waves challenged the ST4000 to

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Danny Haughey
Yes they do power up with the same switch. Please note: message attached From: Martin DeYoung To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:23:34 + Do THIS before eating carbs (ever

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Danny Haughey
yes that was one thing I was missing, but I got those on and it still wouldn't work... I'll get down to the boat and check everything over again... -- Original Message -- From: Frederick G Street To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues Date: Wed, 16 Apr

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Martin DeYoung
Danny, Does both the pilot and the network receive power off the same switch? On Calypso, I have a B&G pilot/network driving a Whitlock drive through large extra relays to prevent the higher current from wearing out the smaller B&G relays. If I supply power to the B&G control/pilot before the

Stus-List Lee Valley LED Tape

2014-04-16 Thread Tortuga
I've just received the April Lee Valley supplement. The first 7 pages are devoted to LED light tape and accessories. It's the first time I've seen that they carry the stuff. Has anyone used the Lee Valley tape lighting? Any recommendations? Thanks in advance Derek Kennedy C&C30mk1 Tortuga Cape G

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Danny Haughey
Right, I have power run to the bus, power run to the computer as well. it just seems the pilot is not talking to the network or maybe not getting power out to the motor -- Original Message -- From: Michael Brown To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Iss

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Frederick G Street
Note that you also need two terminators on the ends of the SeaTalkNG bus, as in the diagram. Otherwise the network won’t work reliably. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 16, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Michael Brown wrote: > Note o

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Brown
I installed the X5 last summer with a P70 control head. The single SeaTalkNG connection to the P70 is required and sufficient to make the unit work. At a minimum you will need: 1) Power to the Course Computer. It will not power up from the SeaTalkNG bus. 2) A SeaTalkNG connection to the P70 3) C

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread djmo...@bellsouth.net
I installed the same system a year ago. From what I remember, you have to rum power to the network and the computer. I had to call tech support as only one power source is shown in the instructions. Joel Aronson wrote: >___ >This List is provided by

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Bill Coleman
Defender as well. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|2331321|2028687|2028718 &id=1457258 Bill Coleman C&C 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba,

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Joel Aronson
Just making sure - those are two different 12 volt lines. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Danny Haughey wrote: > Definitely getting power to the computer... The control head powers on. > > Danny > > > -- Original Message -- > From: Joel Aronson > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Frederick G Street
If it’s a p70 and is connected by the SeaTalkNG network, then that’s where it’s getting its power from. So if the SeaTalkNG bus is powered separately from the course computer, just because the head lights doesn’t mean the course computer has power. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Danny Haughey
Definitely getting power to the computer... The control head powers on. Danny -- Original Message -- From: Joel Aronson To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:17:44 -0400 Is the computer getting power? Put a volt meter on

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Pete Shelquist
I respect Fred's knowledge and experience, but just for the sake of diversity I would like to raise awareness that there are other autopilot controllers out there besides Raymarine. Take time to review the features, functions and usability of different products before plopping down hard earne

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Frederick G Street
It’s when the $#!+ hits the fan and I’m more or less single-handing that I really want the autopilot to be rock-solid. If the wind comes up fast and I need to get sails down, being able to have Otto keep the bow into the wind while I work is critical. My Simrad WP30cx wheelpilot will only just

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Some advice from someone that used to be a Raytheon dealer: 1. The X5 and other wheel-pilots are all fair weather devices. They work fine for motoring or sailing in easy conditions. If you can steer without too much trouble, so can they. Going downwind with any kind of sea is usually hope

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread John Pennie
I’d say it really comes down to how you plan to use the boat. The wheel pilot is marginal at best but if you’re just going to sail for a few hours in protected bays, in light to moderate wind its fine. It may also be a viable option if on a tight budget and view the autopilot as a luxury rathe

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Joel Aronson
Is the computer getting power? Put a volt meter on the connection. Then check connections between the computer and control head. Joel On Wednesday, April 16, 2014, Danny Haughey wrote: > My mistake Going from memory I was remembering running a wire from > the through hull fitting for the

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Danny Haughey
My mistake Going from memory I was remembering running a wire from the through hull fitting for the new depth sounder to the box for the TackTick system.The fluxgate does indeed go directly to the computer... -- Original Message -- From: Frederick G Street To: cnc-list@cnc-

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Frederick G Street
Agreed — rule of thumb is to size the autopilot so that its rating is at least 1-1/2 times the displacement of the vessel; Raymarine says to add 20%, but that’s not conservative enough in my opinion. So for a LF38 at a published displacement of 16,000 lbs (which means in real life, it’s more li

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Joel Aronson
Paul The X-5 wheelpilot is barely adequate for a 35/3. Joel On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Paul Eugenio wrote: > Frank, > > I do not have an autopilot yet installed on my 38LF. I do have a > Raymarine SPX-5 wheel autopilot which I had installed on my 29-1(it is now > currently at Raymari

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Paul Eugenio
Frank, I do not have an autopilot yet installed on my 38LF. I do have a Raymarine SPX-5 wheel autopilot which I had installed on my 29-1(it is now currently at Raymarine getting the computer repaired). A 38LF is right at the max displacement limit for a SPX-5, and I was thinking about givin

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Frederick G Street
To amplify a bit: there IS a SeaTalkNG connection on the X5 course computer; but as far as I know, it’s only to get onto the backbone for other data. I’m not sure you can run the X5 with only a SeaTalkNG control head. The fluxgate compass and rudder reference transducer connect right to the X5

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Frederick G Street
Danny — have you gone carefully through the install manual and checked everything in your system? The X5 is a SeaTalk-based system, and used to ship with the ST6002 control head; the p70 is SeaTalkNG, which is a completely different communication system than SeaTalk. Do you have a SeaTalk-to-N

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Joel Aronson
Danny, Not in my manual! It connects tot he computer. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Danny Haughey wrote: > Hi Joel, > > The fluxgate compass connects to another box that connects back to the > computer. > > I'll have to register it then!!! Thanks for the tip! > > > Danny > Lolita > 1973

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Frank Woronkowicz
Fred Rich pics explains the best installation however you cn not install octpus the same way. V/R Frank Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Frederick G Street wrote: > > I haven’t yet done it on my boat. > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) --

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Frederick G Street
I haven’t yet done it on my boat. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 16, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Frank Woronkowicz wrote: > Fred > did you install octopus on LF 38? > if yes can you mail pic? > thanks > Frank _

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Frederick G Street
WMJ is about the only place that shows up regularly online: http://www.wmjmarine.com/44318.html?gclid=CJ-K5biZ5b0CFQIT7AodJhoAuA Octopus’ U.S. importer is a distributor called CWR Electronics, but you can’t buy directly from them (unfortunately). Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C

Re: Stus-List Bottom paint removal

2014-04-16 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Mark If ablative than use an electric pressure washer and maybe a long handled scrub brush. Ablatives can be applied over other ablatives usually Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:15 AM To: cnc-lis

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Danny Haughey
Hi Joel, The fluxgate compass connects to another box that connects back to the computer. I'll have to register it then!!! Thanks for the tip! Danny Lolita 1973 Viking 33 Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Joel Aronson To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus

Re: Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Joel Aronson
Danny, Register it and you get an extended warranty - even now!!! Is the fluxgate compass connected to the main box? The P70 is not getting a signal from the box. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Danny Haughey wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Speaking of autopilots.. I bought and

Re: Stus-List Bottom paint removal

2014-04-16 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
I'm not looking to remove everything - I believe the boat currently has an ablative coating, I just want to clean off some of the loose areas, and make it ready for a new layer.  On my Mirage 24 I would do a quick sanding with ~80-120 grit paper on the RO s

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Della Barba, Joe
We used to use those all the time with Autohelm/Raytheon autopilots instead of the Raytheon version. If memory serves they are sold by Teleflex or were back then. You could always look here : http://www.octopusdrives.com/ Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.c

Stus-List AutoPilot Issues

2014-04-16 Thread Danny Haughey
Hi Guys, Speaking of autopilots.. I bought and installed an autopilot on Lolita at the end of the 2012 season and have yet to get the stupid thing working. the head unit show power but give a message about no pilot found... It is the raymarine X5 with the P70 head unit. I used the block, I m

Re: Stus-List Bottom paint removal

2014-04-16 Thread Neil Andersen
Rich, I am very impressed. Can you provide more information on the scrapper? BTW - for my ablative paint covered bottom, I use a 3M pad (fairly coarse) on a sanding pole so I don't have to crawl around on the ground so much. My problem is build-up at the water line since before I owned her.

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Frank Woronkowicz
Fred did you install octopus on LF 38? if yes can you mail pic? thanks Frank Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2014, at 9:39 AM, David wrote: > > Fred, > > Where do you get the Octopus drives in the States? > > David F. Risch > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > From: f...@postaudio.net > Date: We

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread David
Fred, Where do you get the Octopus drives in the States? David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: f...@postaudio.net Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 08:30:11 -0500 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special The EV-200 Sail paired with an Octopus 1212LAM1

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Frederick G Street
The EV-200 Sail paired with an Octopus 1212LAM12 hydraulic linear drive would be my choice. The Defender pricing is pretty stunning — lower than my dealer pricing by a fair amount. They must have swung a sweet volume deal with Raymarine. I’m not sold on the wireless autopilot remote thing, ho

Stus-List Original tiller specs.1973 C&C30 Mk1

2014-04-16 Thread John Mickey
Hello all I currently own a 1973 30 Mk1 and need to replace the tiller. The current tiller is straight and 52" long. I spoke with Richard at Tiller Master yesterday and he is suggesting a tiller with a significant rise in it based on line drawings of the boat. Does anyone know what the original spe

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Joel Aronson
Frank, Talk to Fred. There was a recent thread about a pilot for a 38. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Frank Woronkowicz wrote: > Paul > Prices look fine but what autopilot will be best to install on LF 38. I > am looking for under the deck? > If you have autopilot pleas

Re: Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Frank Woronkowicz
Paul Prices look fine but what autopilot will be best to install on LF 38. I am looking for under the deck? If you have autopilot please emal pics. V/R Frank Woronkowicz LF 38 1981 Annapolis fworonkow...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 16, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Paul Eugenio wrote: > > Hi

Re: Stus-List Bottom paint removal

2014-04-16 Thread Rich Knowles
Why remove a barrier coat? Rich > On Apr 16, 2014, at 9:29, "Hoyt, Mike" wrote: > > The only reason for DIY with scraper over soda blasting in my mind is $. > I have done two boats so far each under 9 ft beam and 27.5 LOA. Is a fairly > large job. > > RO Sander is very slow if you ha

Re: Stus-List Olin Safety Kit got wet

2014-04-16 Thread Bill Coleman
I moved my flares and GPS to a Plano Marine Box and a Guide series Stowaway case, there are nice things to be found in the fishing area of Gander Mtn and such. Is has a nice silicone O ring seal, nice case. I can’t decide which one I like better. Bill Coleman C&C 39 From: CnC-List [mailto

Re: Stus-List Bottom paint removal

2014-04-16 Thread Hoyt, Mike
The only reason for DIY with scraper over soda blasting in my mind is $. I have done two boats so far each under 9 ft beam and 27.5 LOA. Is a fairly large job. RO Sander is very slow if you have an epoxy barrier coat to deal with and when you do the aggressive grit of the sandpaper n

Stus-List ActiveCaptain/Defender AutoPilot Special

2014-04-16 Thread Paul Eugenio
Hi, I thought I would pass this info along. I am not an expert, but it looks like a good deal, and it includes a free S100 Wireless Autopilot Remote and a free Raymarine SeaTalk Converter Kit. - Paul E. 1981 C&C 38LF S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL ===