Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

2015-12-21 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Funny, for me time spent sailing is all too fleeting. But I suppose if I was sailing in waters where I had 6" under my keel, the days might seem to drag... Andy C 40 Peregrine Newport, RI On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > 134 years is a

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

2015-12-21 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Yes it is. One would think I would know what I am doing after that much time! Maybe 14 years would be more appropriate … From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 3:18 PM To: 1 CnC List Cc: Jim Watts Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

2015-12-21 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
We always offset to show depth under the keel. For Nav purposes it is simple to add 6 feet but while sailing I don’t want to take that extra step of performing mental calculations when in skinny water. We spent 134 years sailing in a very shallow area where often the 0.5 was the number of

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

2015-12-21 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Billable hours... On 21 December 2015 at 15:18, Jim Watts via CnC-List wrote: > 134 years is a lot of sailing time. > > Jim Watts > Paradigm Shift > C 35 Mk III > Victoria, BC > > On 21 December 2015 at 10:28, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >>

Re: Stus-List Getting rid of boat funk

2015-12-21 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
If I remember correctly, ozone affects the rubber hoses. So I would suggest to use it sparingly. Marek Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: December 21, 2015 11:03 To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Stus-List Getting rid of boat funk

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Interesting thread. Put me in the move lines forward camp. I’m generating schematics of new line and hardware layouts right now. And one thing that I have been mulling over for quite some time is moving most, but not all, of the halyards back to the mast. Or mast area as it may be. And one the

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

2015-12-21 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
134 years is a lot of sailing time. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 21 December 2015 at 10:28, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: > We always offset to show depth under the keel. For Nav purposes it is > simple to add 6 feet but while sailing I don’t

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

2015-12-21 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Only the keel drags … From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 3:39 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset Funny, for me time spent

Re: Stus-List How to attach a rigid boom vang on LF38

2015-12-21 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I am wondering... could you simply get rid of the part of the mainsheet leading forward? I am actually surprised that on a 38' boat you have only a 4:1 purchase for the mainsheet. I have a totally different boat, but I got rid of the mainsheet going forward (and then back to a clutch and a

Re: Stus-List How to attach a rigid boom vang on LF38

2015-12-21 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
haring> >> >> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxfHpwssU_6NY0ZoeVBpV244UDQ/view?usp=sharing >> >> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxfHpwssU_6NY0ZoeVBpV244UDQ/view?usp=sharing>> >> >> Main sheet is the red one, and the turning block immediately to

Re: Stus-List How to attach a rigid boom vang on LF38

2015-12-21 Thread svpegasus38
Bob, when I got my new Doyle main. Jim Kitchen suggestrd that I install a padeye and cleat on either side of the mast so the line would pull forward and down. This for the tack. For the clew I took another line tied around boom (loose footed) thru the reef point and back to a cheek

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
My spin halyards can be put into a cam cleat on the mast but run back to clutches. Hoist at the mast. Generally drop from the cockpit unless short handed. Joel On Monday, December 21, 2015, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > The question next is what to do about

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Richard N. Bush via CnC-List
Dave; my 37 has four cabin top winches and they appear to be original; the spec drawings show two winches and two more as optional equipment; then, of course, there are places for up to four winches on the raised deck areas near the mast, so I'm guessing that the original purchasers would

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
> The question next is what to do about the spinnaker halyard. I can probably > make a case for it being forward in some configuration given that my wife and > I will be using a cruising A-sym with a sock and that would only be in > lightish air. On Calypso and our last boat (a C 36) we had

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
My spin halyards are led from the exit boxes up high on the mast, then through a clutch and down to a block at the base of the mast and to the winch on either side of the mast. I have three winches at the mast base; one dedicated for the main halyard and one for the spin or jib on each side.

Re: Stus-List How to attach a rigid boom vang on LF38

2015-12-21 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List
Ah, yes, your blog post has a good picture of one possible setup with a rigid vang. Doesn't the vang hit the mainsheet when you're on a port downwind tack? I've had issues with even my non-rigid vang doing that, and it makes it difficult to sheet the main in. Good call on using the deck block for

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
These observations bring me back to the realities of halyard/reef management with lines led aft versus forward. “Forward” on larger boats generally means winches mounted on the mast in-line with the halyards with appropriate line-stoppers. With this configuration, and suitable bracing, reefing

Stus-List Post to the list

2015-12-21 Thread Mike Casey via CnC-List
Hi folks, I bought a C 30 this past summer. I have been able to figure everything out except the full cockpit enclosure. It is Sunbrella and comes in a small bag. It attaches to the bimini, after the boom is clipped to the toe rail. I can see where it goes back and there are slots for the twin

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

2015-12-21 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
I use the offset from the transducer to the waterline. That way I read the actual depth of the water. My offset is about 20”. I can then match chart depth to the depth sounder and avoid going agroundor at least pull the throttle back so it’s a soft grounding! Jake Jake Brodersen

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
Calypso still has the halyards and reefing lines forward. The spinnaker pole downhaul (foreguy) runs aft, the pole topping lift can be led forward or aft depending on the number of crew available during dip pole gybes. Calypso, being a very early IOR design with lots of displacement has a

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

2015-12-21 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Dennis maybe I don't understand what you're saying, but If you want the depth shown to closely match the depth shown on the charts should the off set not be from the transducer up to the waterline instead of down to the bottom of the keel Dwight Veinot C 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's

Re: Stus-List How to attach a rigid boom vang on LF38

2015-12-21 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Patrick — I basically replaced two blocks, each with a roughly 90-degree lead (at the mast/boom gooseneck, and at the mast partners), with a single block with about a 150-degree lead at the deck collar. With enough purchase at the boom for the sheet (in my case, 4:1), I just need to overcome

Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
I wonder, am I alone in the group leading lines forward? The only lines I'm going to have coming aft to the cabin top will be the mainsheet and the traveler lines...and I'm thinking of eliminating the traveler all together. I just don't want all that extra spaghetti in the cockpit. Bulkheads

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Andy, There are reasons for not going forward. I had a squall hit us when we were off the coast of Maine in big swells. Hanging onto the mast while trying to get the mainsail down wasn't much fun. It might have been better in the safety of the cockpit. I did have a harness on, in case

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

2015-12-21 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
Dennis, I use an offset from the transducer to the bottom of the keel so I read the actual depth under the keel. This way, I can easily tell how much water is under the boat. Comparing the depth shown on the instrument with that charted depth always requires knowing the state of the tide.

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
I think that's what I had on my J/80, Dennis. Andy C 40 Peregrine Newport, RI Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Dec 21, 2015, at 20:39, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: >

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

2015-12-21 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Water line to transducer is correct. I think I remember around 18 inches for Touche'. I think I wrote it in the instrument manual somewhere. I think more and remember less these days. :) Dennis C. On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Sailnomad via CnC-List
It also depends on the size of the boat. An my 45 footer there is more lines forward than on the 25 footer. For me it is much more safety. I have no issues going forward on the 45 footer. But the 25 with curved cabintop etc is scary. Ahmet IRWIN 43 "Waterdancer" C 25 "Tabasco" Boston, MA, USA On

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Go to apsltd.com and search for a spinnaker halyard parking bracket. It's what you need on the mast for hoisting a chute short handed. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List > wrote: > > My spin halyards can be put into

Re: Stus-List Post to the list

2015-12-21 Thread Douglas via CnC-List
It sounds like the same thing that came on my 38-ft Cncc Mine draped over the boom I have a smaller one that clips to the bottom of the boom. I would send you pictures; the 60+ mph winds last month did a number on it. Larry From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

2015-12-21 Thread robert via CnC-List
Dwight: I think your measurement of the offset from the waterline would be more accurate to the chart.I use the offset from the transducer to the bottom of the keel to give me a slight 'comfort level' or 'insurance' as happened this past Summer.I wasn't on the helm when the alarm went

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Probably. Here's the link: https://www.apsltd.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=spinnaker+halyard+parking+bracket Also need a cam cleat. Simple but ingenious idea for hoisting chutes. Dennis C. On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I think

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
I think it depends on boat setup. On Mojito, primarily used for racing, the bulkheads were only cushioned by the many rope tails - main halyard, 2 x genoa halyards, 2 x spinnaker halyards, 2 x reef lines, cunningham, baby stay, outhaul, pole lift and foreguy (led to both sides) = 13 lines. Pit

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread Pete Shelquist via CnC-List
I agree with you Andy. I cruise/race both solo and with crew and have kept the Main, jib and spin halyards at the mast. I need to be forward to hook everything up anyway and this configuration saves time/energy. I tried single line reefing and it was a pain in the butt for the reason you

Stus-List Folding prop for 30-1 with A4

2015-12-21 Thread Joe at Zialater via CnC-List
My 1975 30-1, Zia is up for a nice Christmas gift this year - a folding prop. Any recommendations for a good folder that will still give me decent performance in forward and reverse? I don't know the current two blade prop specs but she is being pushed by a smooth running Atomic 4. Thanks

Re: Stus-List Cost to recover cushions - ouch

2015-12-21 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
The cushions on Suhana are all in good shape, but they're the old C beige/brown stripes. (not my image) Those cushions are really well made and mine are in great shape. However, there was definitely boat funk stunk

Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

2015-12-21 Thread David via CnC-List
Andy, We have main sheet, main halyard, reef lines, outhaul, pole topping lift and pole foreguy leading aft. Sounds like a lot, but it stays fairly organized and out of the way for the most part. Never had a reason to remove or add more. I have no problem going forward to attach luff

Re: Stus-List Winter discussions - depth sounder offset

2015-12-21 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
I run aground gently and adjust the offset so the instrument reads zero. With 12 feet of tide out here I'm not going to try and set to charted depth because then the math gets stupid. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 21 December 2015 at 05:42, Ron Ricci via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 119, Issue 61

2015-12-21 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
Patrick, My mainsheet block is attached to the mast collar. I have a block lead like the one you mention, it is used for the rigid vang control, in my case a Selden Rodkicker 20. I have a photo of the set up on the blog where I describe replacing the gas shock for the rodkicker.