Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-25 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RANDY via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:46 PM To: cnc-list Cc: RANDY; Michael Brown Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole "In light air and flat water the barn door trim seems to be the fa

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-24 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
, August 24, 2016 10:50 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Michael Brown <m...@tkg.ca> Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole Hi Rick, I am not familiar with the rule of thumb for optimum whisker pole length, though it looks like the geometry is setting the pole at right

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-24 Thread William Walker via CnC-List
If you are in a phrf region that doesn't limit the whisker pole to the J measurement it may well be faster to go dead downwind poled out. Since under LakevMichigan phrf we are limited to J I have had success with gybing downwind. BUT, it requires that you know and apply your Polars to the

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-24 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
t.com> Cc: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net>; Michael Brown <m...@tkg.ca> Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2016 3:47 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole "In light air and flat water the barn door trim seems to be the fastest." It's been my observation th

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-24 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
Message - From: "Michael Brown via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Michael Brown" <m...@tkg.ca> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 8:49:47 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole Hi Rick,

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-24 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
For what its worth, Forespar gives whisker pole sizing info for C: http://www.forespar.com/products/sail-spinnaker-pole-size-guide.shtml In PHRF Long Island Sound, the max whisker pole length is equal to your LP measurement. If you use your J-length spinnaker pole instead, PHRF LIS gives you

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-24 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
Hi Rick,   I am not familiar with the rule of thumb for optimum whisker pole length, though it looks like the geometry is setting the pole at right angles to the boat, and the jib holds a 60 degree angle at the tack.   For light air dead run I set the jib at 90 degrees to the centerline to

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-22 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
] On Behalf Of RANDY via CnC-List Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 10:24 AM To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole My SPL is 13'4" and my J is 13'6". I used the spin pole to pole out my 15

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-22 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
- Original Message - From: "Michael Brown via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Michael Brown" <m...@tkg.ca> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:47:34 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinna

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-22 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
ine control pole is adjustable so I can find a spot to raise the spinnaker car to that provides the combination of downward angle and distance needed. Michael Brown Windburn C 30-1 Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:10 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrica

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-20 Thread gnylander--- via CnC-List
ist" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Ronald B. Frerker" <rbfrer...@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 1:33:25 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole "If you are considering leaving the asymm tack on centerline and using a pole like you would

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-19 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
-list.com] On Behalf Of RANDY via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:03 PM To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole I poled out my 155% genoa last night with the spin pole, because I don't hav

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-08-18 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
ot; <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Ronald B. Frerker" <rbfrer...@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 1:33:25 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole "If you are considering leaving the asymm tack on centerline and using a pole like you would use

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-06-25 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
. the fractional chute on the 24. Gary From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 3:33 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ronald B. Frerker <rbfrer...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnake

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-06-24 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
"If you are considering leaving the asymm tack on centerline and using a pole like you would use a whisker pole on a headsail I guess that would work but as pointed out is not legal under common Racing Rules of Sailing." I've found the spin pole is too short for use as a whisker pole even when

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-06-24 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
I have both symm and asymm spinnakers flying from a pole. I assume you mean to connect a guy to the spinnaker tack and pole that out. The symm is better from 120 AWA to 180 AWA, the asymm starts to work as well tighter than 120 AWA. If you are considering leaving the asymm tack on centerline and

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-06-24 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 8:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: tom <to6...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole Mike's advice is spot on. If your thinking of using the pole as to :"wing out" the asym as you might do with a g

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-06-23 Thread tom via CnC-List
Mike's advice is spot on. If your thinking of using the pole as to :"wing out" the asym as you might do with a genoa; this would be totally illegal. The pole could only be used to attach the tack of the sail while the clew must remain free-flying. PHRF regulations generally state that there be no

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-06-17 Thread Jeff Hodor via CnC-List
get penalized. > > Gary, St. Michaels MD > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 11:54 AM > To: C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-06-17 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Tom To answer your question it can be done. On two occasions we have flown an asym off the pole. In both instances the boats involved had both symmetric spinnakers and asymmetric declared. One time the skipper on a Frers 33 (not mine) decided the next leg was a reach and opted for the asym

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-06-17 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 12:54 PM To: C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole I think you'll find that at typical spinnaker pole is too short. Spin poles are roughly equal to the "J" length. As I understand it an asym p

Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

2016-06-17 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I think you'll find that at typical spinnaker pole is too short. Spin poles are roughly equal to the "J" length. As I understand it an asym pole should be roughly the same length as the foot. I just bought a whisker pole from forespar. The website has lots of guidance regarding recommended