Re: Stus-List Asymmetric spinnaker short handed. 33-2?

Great information all, and thank you.In response to a few comments, Had originally thought of a Crane also at the masthead, and somehow incorporating a bail into the anchor roller, but as noted, with three halyards and a few options at the bow, it is probably not necessary. I guess the

Re: Stus-List Asymmetric spinnaker short handed. 33-2?

Dave The Frers 33 is remarkably similar to C 33-2. It also has three mast halyards forward. The outer ones are most certainly port and stbd spin halyards. One reason NOT to have one of the spin halyards at mast and other in cockpit is that a spin will always want to be hoisted on whichever

Stus-List Electrical Question

When up the mast the other day, I noticed that my 'Steaming, Bow, Foredeck Light' was in pretty bad shape.probably the original 32 years old. Will probably replace it when the mast is hauled later this Fall although I understand this light is no longer legally required...but I do like

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Robert, I have a similar combination Steaming/Foredeck Light. The steaming light is required when under power at night. It is not required under sail. Mine has three wires, a common (black), 12 VDC for steaming light (red) and 12 VDC (white) for foredeck light. Your colors may be different,

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Rob, I am not sure to which part you refer as “no longer legally required”. You don’t need the deck light, for sure, but you do need a steaming light, unless you can show a 360 degrees white light in some other way (e.g. turn off the stern light and turn on the anchor light at the top of the

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On the high seas, especially in swell, those deck level running lights might be useless. Typical example is crossing the gulf stream from FL to Bahamas. There is so much traffic there and if swell is up, deck level lights are not visible. Shipping lanes are very busy down there. To me, safety

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Rob — unless there have been changes in regs that I’m not aware of, a steaming light (also referred to as a masthead light) IS still required, when motoring at night, along with the bow (or sidelights) and stern light. Maybe Canadian regs are different. On your existing fixture, the black is

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As far as I know the various navigation light combinations for boats are international. There should be no difference in requirement between countries - that would be highly dangerous. Nav lights have two functions - type of vessel identification, and vessel heading identification. When under

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Anyone ever remove the fresh water foot pump and instead install a filtered drinking water faucet? I'm thinking of doing so but am not completely sure if removing the foot pump is common or not. If not, what type of water filters would be good for installing under the galley sink and providing

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The light I am talking about is the one 1/2 up the front of the mast just above the spreadersnot the one on the top of the mast seen 360 degrees..I was told the one on the front of the mast is longer a legal requirement but the one on the top of the mast is a legal requirement when

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I think whoever told you that is mistaken; the steaming light is NOT an all-around light, and is made to combine with the nav lights to show the proper lighting arrangement while moving under power. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > On Sep 12, 2016,

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Marek: The light on the front of the mast about 1/2 way up just above the spreaders is the one I am talking about..I was told it is no longer a legal requirement but the 'anchor light' at the top of the mast is a legal requirement..it can be seen 360 degrees but the light 1/2 way up

Stus-List Electrical Question

I always understood the 'steaming light' was the one I am talking about.the one on the front of the mast, not the one on top of the mast. Interesting my brother's boat is a 2007 Hunter 33 and it does not have a 'steaming light' on the front of his mast. Wonder why Hunter would not have

Re: Stus-List Asymmetric spinnaker short handed. 33-2?

I think ASPLTD sells what is called a halyard parking bracket which is a commercial version of a 'reverse' cleat at the mast for the spin halyard. Basically it is a cam cleat that mounts on a bracket such that the opening (top?) of the cleat faces the mast. That way, when the kite is hoisted,

Re: Stus-List Asymmetric spinnaker short handed. 33-2?

Maybe it's standard and I haven't noticed enough boats, but I saw a couple where the cam cleat at the mast was offset slightly so that a pull on the halyard from the cockpit would uncleat it without going to the mast.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL From: "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List"

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For that you can always put a combination light (red over green, 360 degrees) at the top of the mast (in ADDITION to the normal stern and side lights). I don’t want to hop on a high horse, but ANY variation from the rules creates a confusion. Though, I agree that in a swell the normal

Re: Stus-List Autohelm ST4000+ configuration settings for 33

Ours doesn't work at all it shows the wrong compass heading and gradually steers further and further off course until we're doing doughnuts. I've been wondering what to do with it. Jessica On Saturday, September 10, 2016, dwight veinot via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > It won't work

Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

The forward 225 degree light halfway up the mast is a steaming or masthead light. The 360 degree on top of the mast is an anchor light. The steaming light should be shown while under power at night and the anchor light while at anchor (not under way) but not required at a legal anchorage.

Re: Stus-List 1985 C 33-2 Cradle Needed (Raymond Macklin)

Ray, Where are you storing the boat for the winter? Some of the yards in Milwaukee prefer jack stands or can at least accommodate them in lieu of cradles. Jim Reinardy C 30-2 "Firewater" Milwaukee, WI Get Outlook for iOS On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 1:40 PM -0500, "Lee

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Nope as you would then be displaying the lights of a vessel greater than 50m at anchor as seen from directly astern. A picture is worth a lot and here is a good example:Www.westmarine.com/westadvisor/navigation-light-rules Sent from my Samsung device Original message

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Marek To be pedantic - you are correct for boats up to 12 meters (40ft approx) (combined all round white is acceptable - but has to be 1 meter above the side lights) but the regs require separate steaming / masthead and stern lights above that size unless the boat is greater than 20 meters when

Re: Stus-List 1985 C 33-2 Cradle Needed

There is a well known (at least here) Marine Cradle Shop (http://www.cradleridetrailers.com/) just N of Toronto. In our Club probably 80% of cradles are made by them. They have the plans, so you just tell them the boat model you have and they would make it for you and even deliver, if you ask.

Re: Stus-List Electrical Question -> are you towing ?

Using a tri-color mast light and a steaming light could confuse your vessel with a vessel towing an object(side views have colored light above white light).It can take only one late night encounter with a towing vessel to appreciate the different light arrangements used for navigation. Of

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Jonathan, There are no differences between Canada and the US. As you said, it is a international rule. You said: “When under power, whether the sails are up or not, a sail boat MUST display the red / green bow lights and stern light AND a steaming / masthead light.” This is not entirely

Re: Stus-List Asymmetric spinnaker short handed. 33-2?

I've seen that on several boats and added it to my 35/3. The only caveat is that the pit and mast need to know who has the halyard cleated. Otherwise douse does not happen. Joel On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Maybe it's

Re: Stus-List BlackWatch - C 39 - world tour

I got a 1988 Scanmar monitor Windvane for cheap and worked with Scanmar and a welder to get it back to modern spec. Used that for half the trip until it was too light (<8) and then used my raymarine wheel pilot. The wheel pilot isn't supposed to be used with my heavy boat but it's done fine

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Under power you cannot display 360 degree red/green light. If you have a tricolour (segments + anchor), your 135 degree stern segment should be off when you turn on the anchor light, i.e. you would not display two lights towards the stern). However, the lights would be inverted (white is below

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Rob, As Frederick said, whoever told you that was mistaken. This illustrates what you have to show: http://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Navigation-Light-Rules (scroll down to a picture at the bottom of the page). Keep in mind that HOW you display the light is up to you (one light,

Stus-List 1985 C 33-2 Cradle Needed

I am not familiar with the cradle process and wanted to know how do I get or find a cradle for my 1985 C 33-2? Ray Macklin LakeHouse Milwaukee, WI ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help

Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

Jonathan, I would never advocate for non-standard lights. I fully agree that the rules are there, so that we can identify other vessels quickly and without mistake. And yes, sorry, I was trying to be pedantic. Marek From: Indigo via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 13:45 To:

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I wonder if the Coasties know what 20M means. Maybe they can't tell feet from meters. -- Jonathan Indigo C 35III SOUTHPORT CT > On Sep 12, 2016, at 17:21, BillBinaList via CnC-List > wrote: > > A vessel of less than 20 meters in length,

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But that is Inland and has to be designated by the Secretary. The fact that it is marked on the chart is not enough.  Marek Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network. Original message From: BillBinaList via CnC-List Date: 9/12/16

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(g) A vessel of less than 20 meters in length, when at anchor in a special anchorage area designated by the Secretary, shall not be required to exhibit the anchor lights and shapes required by this Rule. [Inld] Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 12, 2016, at 5:09 PM, David via CnC-List

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Rule 30 part G of the Colregs says those Coasties flunked their exam. 8-) —INLAND— Lights and Shapes RULE 30— CONTINUED (g) A vessel of less than 20 meters in length, when at anchor in a special anchorage area designated by the Secretary, shall not be required to exhibit the anchor lights and

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Right except you may have meant anchor light not required when anchored in a mooring field? An anchor light is still required otherwise even in a "designated" (per chart) anchorage. I learned that from the Coasties who made me put one up one fine evening... David F. Risch (401) 419-4650

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A vessel at anchor should exhibit a white all around light where it can best be seen by the drunken idiot driving the party barge with no lights that's roaring through the anchorage at night causing the wake from hell. Dennis C. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 4:09 PM, David via CnC-List

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Designated anchorages are marked as such on charts. If it just says anchorage, it is not a designated anchorage. You would also be amazed at what is "inland waters". Most coastal areas are covered. Bill Bina On 9/12/2016 5:52 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote: But that is Inland and has

Re: Stus-List 1985 C 33-2 Cradle Needed (Raymond Macklin)

Ray: I have a 1985 C 33-2 in Kenosha with a cradle. Your free to take any measurements you need to have one made. I imported the boat & cradle from Toronto this past May. Lee Rosenbaum 1985 C 33-2 Kookaburra Kenosha, WI > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016

Re: Stus-List 1985 C 33-2 Cradle Needed

Hi, My Viking 34 folding cradle from the Toronto Cradle Shop might be available still. 2 hr east of the Sault. www.ncyc.ca Don > On Sep 12, 2016, at 9:22 PM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List > wrote: > > The company north of Toronto builds a nice fitting cradle for right

Stus-List 1985 C 33-2 Cradle Needed

The company north of Toronto builds a nice fitting cradle for right around $2000 last fall when I enquired. I had a look at one and then proceeded to build one very similar for about $950 in materials. Could have been cheaper as I used heavier material for the base. One of the features is that

Re: Stus-List BlackWatch - C 39 - world tour

Congrats on the successful passage! I'm subscribed now and look forward to more. >From the project pics it looks like you did a lot in only a year. Too bad the blog wasn't started earlier - would be great to hear about some of those. What kind of wind vane do you have? I saw it in the pictures

Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

That might satisfy the below/above rule but I am not sure how having all around white few inches below tricolor affects the red/green. I never really took the dinghy away from the boat at night to see. To me Rule #1 is be visible. So under power at night outside, tri-color is on, and

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Rob, I'm pretty sure the steaming light is still required to be shown when you're motoring or motorsailing. Andy C 40 Peregrine On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 8:49 AM, robert via CnC-List wrote: > When up the mast the other day, I noticed that my 'Steaming, Bow, Foredeck >

Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

So if you have a combo tricolor/anchor masthead light and you are under power should they both be on? Joel On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Petar Horvatic via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > On the high seas, especially in swell, those deck level running lights > might > be useless.

Re: Stus-List Asymmetric spinnaker short handed. 33-2?

Dave, On my 33-2 (1987, Offshorespars mast). I added the mast crane from Offshore to add some clearance in front of the furler and to use one dedicated spin haylard. I even remove the port haylard since i don't use it /need it. I have full confidence in my fairly new all rope (Vectran)

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If my cheat sheet is current it says: When Under Power: You must use your navigation and steaming lights. When Under Sail: Use either your masthead tricolor or deck level navigation lights, but not both Lloyd Lippe Finesse 1985 C Landfall 39 From: robert via CnC-List Sent:

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I believe the confusion here is because in the COLREGS the "steaming light" is referred to as a masthead light. On most sailboats it is not at the top of the mast. People confuse "masthead" with the all around anchor light. If you are under power (sails up or not) you must display the

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Yup I have been confused many times offshore by those who are sporting the tri and the steaming light. Not fun at 3:00am trying to figure out what is coming at you. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 11:43:20 -0400 Subject: Re: