Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

Hi Dennis or Paul,

Can someone please take a few PICTURES of the poor 35-II to be scrapped, and 
not just debate about a stripe/star?  Info please?

Yea, I have a 35-II,and can’t afford to buy any parts right now, but it would 
be really nice to see what boat/parts they are talking about, not just a 
missing star! 

Argh, Lee




> On Jun 30, 2020, at 3:54 33PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Was it Touché?  :)
> 
> I saw it last week but thought it was a 34. 
> 
> If anybody wants me to look at it for parts, let me know.  I deal with Mike 
> at Southern Cross often. Touché is docked about 2 blocks away. I drive past 
> it on my way to my slip. 
> 
> I should be there next week. 
> 
> Dennis C. 
> Touché 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 30, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I went looking around a marine salvage yard today and came across a 1974 C 
>> 35 (CCY353221174) which is about to be parted.  The vessel did not look 
>> damaged so I asked about it.   The owner of the yard (Southern Cross 
>> Salvage) said that it is being scrapped because there is no vessel title.  
>> Seems odd.  While it is well aged and a bit neglected, this would be a good 
>> chance for 35-1 owners to get some original parts.
>> 
>> Southern Cross Ships Chandlery
>> 103 Myrick St
>> Pensacola, FL 
>> 
>> (850) 377-1776
>> -
>> Paul E.
>> 1981 C Landfall 38 
>> S/V Johanna Rose
>> Fort Walton Beach, FL
>> 
>> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ 


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s/v Simplicity, a 1974 C 35-II
Shilshole / Seattle   425-444-9109

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Stus-List Lewmar Hatches

[Len Mitchell via CnC-List]

Ken, thanks, HMP in Toronto was my first stop. They have a good selection of 
C parts and coincidently they were the ones I used for the crazy high trim 
kit quote and I trust they don’t mark parts up that far. It’s a Lewmar parts 
pricing issue. I found a plastic 37+ holding tank at HMP when my aluminum tank 
was a problem so I have faith they know C and even the obscure parts. HMP 
had a Lewmar roller screen and trim kit in stock too but it was for the wrong 
hatch.
Josh suggested I try a piece of plastic soda bottle under the rubber hinge 
piece to shim it up and I may try that option just for fun first, it’s worth a 
try. I still have a kit for each size ocean hatch and don’t really want to 
install them until I have exhausted the options. Len

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Re: Stus-List 29-2 Main for sale

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

What are the dimensions foot and luff? My girlfriend is looking for a good used 
main for her Sun 27. Doug Mountjoysv Rebecca Leah C Landfall 39Port Orchard 
yacht club
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Re: Stus-List Marine Fork Lift vs Travel Lift - C 34+ ?

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

The (relatively few) marina trucks we built while I was at Hyster Company 
usually had forks about 12 to 16 feet long and were rated at a load center 48” 
out from the face of the forks. But power boats tend to have all the heavy 
stuff like tankage, engine, outdrive, etc in the aft end of the boat. Picking 
up a 32 foot power boat from the aft end is a pretty straightforward thing to 
do, because the center of gravity of the boat is likely in the aft 25% of the 
boat.

 

You have several thousand pounds of keel about 17 feet in front of the transom, 
and the center of gravity of a sailboat is, by design, pretty near the center 
of the boat. The dry sailed boats around here are generally launched by travel 
lift the day before race day.

 

That said, your marina operator knows his machinery, and he’s liable for any 
damage if he drops the boat. YMMV, but be careful.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stephen 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:26 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Stephen Thorne 
Subject: Stus-List Marine Fork Lift vs Travel Lift - C 34+ ?

 

Folks,

 

A Marina has offered to try and use their boat fork lift (80,000 lb) to lift 
Deja Vu’ off the custom trailer we have - splash her for whatever period of 
time we sail and then lift and put back on the trailer.  So it’s a “dry 
sailing” option if this could work?  The Marina operator reports they can lift 
up to 25,000 lb boats with this system.

 

The fork lift would have unobstructed access to the transom of Deja Vu and with 
the engine and fuel tank behind the keel I was wondering if the weight/balance 
etc this idea would work or not?  

 

Any thoughts or experience from other people who have tried this or had 
experience with other boats?

 

Appreciate your thoughts

 

Stephen Thorne

C 34+ Deja Vu’

770.722.2848

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Re: Stus-List Backstay adjustment downwind

[David Risch via CnC-List]

I actually did this on my 40 at times.  Amazing how she responds like a dinghy. 
 Very distracting driving and pumping and releasing  Perhaps a remote….

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 2:23 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bailey White 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay adjustment downwind

Last time I was sailing by myself upwind on the 36, I started playing the 
hydraulic backstay as my sole adjustment.  The wind was 5 to 10 knots or so, 
and easing in the lulls and pulling on in the puffs felt very effective in 
controlling the power of the boat.  Felt really good.

Used to do the same on the Melges 24 in certain breeze ranges and it was the 
fastest way to go.

Bailey White
1979 C 36
Atlanta, GA
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Re: Stus-List Marine Fork Lift vs Travel Lift - C 34+ ?

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I saw them flying around Bert Jabins with those big Taylors, with around a 30 
footer -  there was carpeting on the forks, but I was wondering - .

Because of the rocker in the hull, it is kind of point loading  on the corners 
of the inside of the forks(Picking up, back to front).  I thought it seemed a 
little brutal to the fiberglass skin.  If they have some kind or air cushion it 
seem like it would work out well.

 

Bill Coleman

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stephen 
Thorne via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 10:26 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Stephen Thorne
Subject: Stus-List Marine Fork Lift vs Travel Lift - C 34+ ?

 

Folks,

 

A Marina has offered to try and use their boat fork lift (80,000 lb) to lift 
Deja Vu’ off the custom trailer we have - splash her for whatever period of 
time we sail and then lift and put back on the trailer.  So it’s a “dry 
sailing” option if this could work?  The Marina operator reports they can lift 
up to 25,000 lb boats with this system.

 

The fork lift would have unobstructed access to the transom of Deja Vu and with 
the engine and fuel tank behind the keel I was wondering if the weight/balance 
etc this idea would work or not?  

 

Any thoughts or experience from other people who have tried this or had 
experience with other boats?

 

Appreciate your thoughts

 

Stephen Thorne

C 34+ Deja Vu’

770.722.2848

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Stus-List 29-2 Main for sale

[Kathy & Bruce via CnC-List]

CnC 29-2 Bay Sails Haarstick loose foot mainsail with 2 full length and 2 
pocket battens; $400 CDN.  Was winning races with it last season.

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>   7.  C 35, Mk 1 &2 Cove Stripe (schiller)
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Rob Ball via CnC-List]

The original 35 design was called the Redwing 35 and was built by 
Hinterhoeller, and was then renamed the C 35 after the company merger - one 
of which was Hinterhoeller.
So the mold did not have the Cuthbertson star molded in.
Indeed the Mark II used the same hull mold as a starting point . . . .

Rob Ball   C 34

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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Don Kern via CnC-List]

No manufactures plate on # 255

Don Kern
/Fireball/ C Mk2
Bristol RI


On 7/1/2020 2:37 PM, david--- via CnC-List wrote:
Hull 35-2 #207 has a manufacturers plate at the forward end of the 
cockpit well, as well as the USCG HIN on the transom. It was built in 
1973.


David Kelly
Baraka C 35-2
Noroton, CT

On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Sorry, but I think C discontinued the manufacturers plate when they 
went to the USCG mandated HIN system which became effective Nov 1, 
1972.  This boat is a 1974.  :(

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 12:48 PM JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Of all the models to not have the cove strip ... oh well thanks
anyways.  My search will continue

I guess the only other thing would be the manufacturer’s plate ...

And then I’ll learn they didn’t put those in this model either :-)

JK

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Stus-List C 35, Mk 1 &2 Cove Stripe

[schiller via CnC-List]

Our Redwing 35 (C 35 Mk1, Hull #7) had a cove stripe but not stars and 
daggers.  Of course it also didn't have the port in the galley over the 
sink either.  George told me that the none of the first twelve Redwing 
35's (on the line at the same time) were the same.  They tried different 
little things and all of them.


I miss our Redwing but I sure do like our C 35 Mk 3.

Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 7/1/2020 2:48 PM, Don Kern via CnC-List wrote:


JohnKelly

The 35 Mk2 does have a cove strip, just no star / sword.    The cove 
strip ends about eight inches aft of the in-hull running light which I 
think was unique to this vintage C


Don Kern
/Fireball/  C Mk2
Bristol RI


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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

I’ve got the same (plate in rear cockpit and HIN on outside, starboard stern) 
on my 1977 C 26!

sam
C 26 Liquorice 
Ghost Lake Alberta 


On Jul 1, 2020, at 12:38 PM, david--- via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hull 35-2 #207 has a manufacturers plate at the forward end of the cockpit 
well, as well as the USCG HIN on the transom. It was built in 1973.

David Kelly
Baraka C 35-2
Noroton, CT

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, but I think C discontinued the manufacturers plate when they went to 
> the USCG mandated HIN system which became effective Nov 1, 1972.  This boat 
> is a 1974.  :(
>   -- 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 12:48 PM JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>> Of all the models to not have the cove strip ... oh well thanks anyways.  My 
>> search will continue 
>> 
>> I guess the only other thing would be the manufacturer’s plate ...
>> 
>> And then I’ll learn they didn’t put those in this model either :-)
>> 
>> JK
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Don Kern via CnC-List]

JohnKelly

The 35 Mk2 does have a cove strip, just no star / sword.    The cove 
strip ends about eight inches aft of the in-hull running light which I 
think was unique to this vintage C


Don Kern
/Fireball/  C Mk2
Bristol RI



On 7/1/2020 10:30 AM, JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List wrote:

Thanks so much.  I’ll cover the cost

JK

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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[david--- via CnC-List]

Hull 35-2 #207 has a manufacturers plate at the forward end of the cockpit 
well, as well as the USCG HIN on the transom. It was built in 1973.

David Kelly
Baraka C 35-2
Noroton, CT

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, but I think C discontinued the manufacturers plate when they went to 
> the USCG mandated HIN system which became effective Nov 1, 1972.  This boat 
> is a 1974.  :(
>   -- 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 12:48 PM JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Of all the models to not have the cove strip ... oh well thanks anyways.  My 
> search will continue 
> 
> I guess the only other thing would be the manufacturer’s plate ...
> 
> And then I’ll learn they didn’t put those in this model either :-)
> 
> JK
> 
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Sorry, but I think C discontinued the manufacturers plate when they went
to the USCG mandated HIN system which became effective Nov 1, 1972.  This
boat is a 1974.  :(
  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 12:48 PM JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Of all the models to not have the cove strip ... oh well thanks anyways.
> My search will continue
>
> I guess the only other thing would be the manufacturer’s plate ...
>
> And then I’ll learn they didn’t put those in this model either :-)
>
> JK
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Re: Stus-List Backstay adjustment downwind

[Bailey White via CnC-List]

Last time I was sailing by myself upwind on the 36, I started playing the
hydraulic backstay as my sole adjustment.  The wind was 5 to 10 knots or
so, and easing in the lulls and pulling on in the puffs felt very effective
in controlling the power of the boat.  Felt really good.

Used to do the same on the Melges 24 in certain breeze ranges and it was
the fastest way to go.

Bailey White
1979 C 36
Atlanta, GA
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[david--- via CnC-List]

I believe neither the 35-1 or 35-2 have the star and dagger.  I believe that I 
once read that the 35-1 was one of the first boats designed under the C 
umbrella and the star and dagger had not yet been adopted as a distinctive 
mark.  For the 35-2, I believe C modified the same  hull mold they had used 
for 35-1 with modifications to the stern.  So no star and dagger for it.

David Kelly
Baraka  C 35-2
Noroton CT

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Don Kern via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I've never seen a Mk2 with the star/ sword. Mine #255 does not.
> 
> Don Kern
> Fireball C Mk2
> Bristol RI
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/1/2020 12:10 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List wrote:
>> My 35 MkII hull number 242 does not have the star and dagger. 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 11:26 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> JohnKelly,
>> 
>> I'm not sure the 35 MkII has the star / sword.  I know the MkI doesn't.  Can 
>> any MKII owner verify that?
>> 
>> Otherwise, I'll take my Sawzall and see if I can get them if Mike will let 
>> me cut the boat.
>> 
>>   -- 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[John Christopher via CnC-List]

Try using an lithium impact wrench / gun. Not to be confused with an impact 
drill. The kind the garage uses to remove the lug nuts on your car rims.

I’ve used mine on several occasions and it made quick work of seized SS screws.

Believe they can be rented as well.


/John

>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Michael Brannon  wrote:
> Left handed drill bits work well on this type of problem.  
> 
> Mike Brannon
> Virginia Lee 93295
> 1978 C 36 CB
> Virginia Beach, VA
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into the 
>> stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50% 
>> Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to break the 
>> bond, no luck.
>> 
>> Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and do not 
>> have an impact driver but may get one.
>> 
>> Anyone have any experience with this?
>> 
>> 
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C 32 - #277
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List]

Of all the models to not have the cove strip ... oh well thanks anyways.  My 
search will continue 

I guess the only other thing would be the manufacturer’s plate ...

And then I’ll learn they didn’t put those in this model either :-)

JK

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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

I have the same situation at the moment with a seized Phillips head screw at 
the base of a lifeline stanchion.  I’ve decided to remove the stanchion base 
from the boat so that I can apply more aggressive removal tactics.  I have a 
replacement stanchion—so I don’t care if I destroy the stanchion in the process.

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere on the 
ICW in between)
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email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Michael Brannon via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Left handed drill bits work well on this type of problem.  
> 
> Mike Brannon
> Virginia Lee 93295
> 1978 C 36 CB
> Virginia Beach, VA
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into the 
>> stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50% 
>> Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to break the 
>> bond, no luck.
>> 
>> Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and do not 
>> have an impact driver but may get one.
>> 
>> Anyone have any experience with this?
>> 
>> 
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C 32 - #277
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Lewmar Hatches

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Hi Len,

Check with these guys, you never know: http://www.hollandmarine.com/

This page: http://www.hollandmarine.com/budgetmarine4.html

Ken H.



On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 12:47, Len Mitchell via CnC-List <
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> I sent email to Lewmar support about getting some spares. I was looking
> for the thin plastic trim kit for an Ocean 70 and it retails for 475$ cdn!
> That is an incredible cost for what it is IMHO. I also asked about the roll
> stop hinge kits. They are not available any longer. I asked if they would
> provide the dimensional drawings for the repair kits. The answer was “sorry
> no, it is intellectual property”.
>
> I can use the old plastic trim piece as a mould to make a new part with
> fibreglass if necessary. If anyone has a suggestion on replicating the
> hinge kit parts using 3D printing, let me know, I have one new kit of each
> size left in the Crazy Legs inventory and I need to use it soon.
>
> Len
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[David Risch via CnC-List]

John,

Since my brood of children are long gone and my-spying-on-them-via-Facebook 
days are over...is there any way to see the pics/post from over there to over 
here?   I am not a picture/cloud guy, but I am sure one of is and may also be 
motivated to make it easy to see some great history of your Dads.

Thanks in advance.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Cuthbertson via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:36 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: JohnKelly Cuthbertson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

Son of...

I’m slowly expanding Dad’s personal archive and the cove strip has always been 
recognized as his hand.  Originally done on Inishfree in 1955, it became 
synonymous with C

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 9:12 AM, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
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> John Kelly Cuthbertson...Any relation?
> 
> David F. Risch
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Don Kern via CnC-List]

I've never seen a Mk2 with the star/ sword. Mine #255 does not.

Don Kern
/Fireball /C Mk2
Bristol RI



On 7/1/2020 12:10 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List wrote:

My 35 MkII hull number 242 does not have the star and dagger.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 11:26 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


JohnKelly,

I'm not sure the 35 MkII has the star / sword.  I know the MkI
doesn't.  Can any MKII owner verify that?

Otherwise, I'll take my Sawzall and see if I can get them if Mike
will let me cut the boat.

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

My 35 MkII hull number 242 does not have the star and dagger.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 11:26 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> JohnKelly,
>
> I'm not sure the 35 MkII has the star / sword.  I know the MkI doesn't.
> Can any MKII owner verify that?
>
> Otherwise, I'll take my Sawzall and see if I can get them if Mike will let
> me cut the boat.
>
>   --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:24 PM JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Could you grab a sawzall and grab me the star and sword ?
>>
>> JohnKelly Cuthbertson
>>
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

The Mark 1 doesn't have the star and sword.  At least my friend's 1973 C
Mk.1 doesn't.

This article says that neither the Mark 1 or 2 have them:
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/brochures/35foot/35mkii/index2.htm


The major features of the boats are as follow;
-The one feature which sets all MKI and II 35's apart from
all other C models is the absence of the trademark cove
stars at the fore and aft extensions of the cove stripe.

-The MKI did not receive the stars because of time limitations
for the first hull, thus there was no ties to install the
stars on the plug.

-The MKII plug was made off the C 35 MKI hull. The plug
being fibreglass could not (at that time) be modified, by
carving out stars,


Ken H.

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 11:26, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:

> JohnKelly,
>
> I'm not sure the 35 MkII has the star / sword.  I know the MkI doesn't.
> Can any MKII owner verify that?
>
> Otherwise, I'll take my Sawzall and see if I can get them if Mike will let
> me cut the boat.
>
>   --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:24 PM JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Could you grab a sawzall and grab me the star and sword ?
>>
>> JohnKelly Cuthbertson
>>
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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hard to beat Harbor Freight for these.  I keep a set in my drill carry all and 
rarely ever use them, but find they work wonders when needed.  HF also sells a 
kit for tapping small holes that is amazingly easy to use, also.
https://www.harborfreight.com/screw-extractor-set-12-pc-61981.html


> On 07/01/2020 11:28 AM Michael Brannon via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Left handed drill bits work well on this type of problem.  
> 
> Mike Brannon
> Virginia Lee 93295
> 1978 C 36 CB
> Virginia Beach, VA
> 
> 
> 
> > > On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into 
> > the stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50% 
> > Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to break the 
> > bond, no luck.
> > 
> > Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and 
> > do not have an impact driver but may get one.
> > 
> > Anyone have any experience with this?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > > Rob Abbott
> > > AZURA
> > > C 32 - #277
> > > Halifax, N.S.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

Grind the nut off inside the boat?  I've got a Foredom brand tool with a 
flex shaft that you can borrow if you need it, blows the dremel away - 
but a dremel would work also.


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2020-07-01 12:28 p.m., Michael Brannon via CnC-List wrote:

Left handed drill bits work well on this type of problem.

Mike Brannon
Virginia Lee 93295
1978 C 36 CB
Virginia Beach, VA




On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into 
the stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50% 
Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to 
break the bond, no luck.


Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and do 
not have an impact driver but may get one.


Anyone have any experience with this?



Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.





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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Michael Brannon via CnC-List]

Left handed drill bits work well on this type of problem.  

Mike Brannon
Virginia Lee 93295
1978 C 36 CB
Virginia Beach, VA




> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into the 
> stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50% 
> Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to break the 
> bond, no luck.
> 
> Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and do not have 
> an impact driver but may get one.
> 
> Anyone have any experience with this?
> 
> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C 32 - #277
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

My mistake on assuming the 1974 35 was a Mk1, as Don noted the 1974 is a Mk2.  
I first looked for the iconic star & sword, but I did not see it.  This is why 
I check and noted the hull number.I recall seeing only a strait hull line 
going forward which ends up by the bow followed by a forward embedded bow 
navigation light.

-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/



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> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 09:24:43 -0500
> From: "Dennis C." mailto:capt...@gmail.com>>
> To: CnClist mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL
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>>
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> 
> JohnKelly,
> 
> I'm not sure the 35 MkII has the star / sword.  I know the MkI doesn't.
> Can any MKII owner verify that?
> 
> Otherwise, I'll take my Sawzall and see if I can get them if Mike will let
> me cut the boat.
> 
>  --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA

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Stus-List Backstay adjustment downwind

[Rob Ball via CnC-List]

Hi there,
We proved conclusively that the tighter the forestay upwind, the faster you go 
. . . . unfortunately, since at some point you break something or the boat . . 
. . .
Downwind, you can't get the spinnaker too far forward - in other words, the 
looser the backstay the better - gets the sail out away from the main . . . .
Rob BallC 34

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Re: Stus-List Backstay adjustment downwind

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

We ease the backstay nearly all the way for downwind racing.  IMHO, it's
not a critical adjustment.  We even went so far as to pull the masthead
forward with the genoa halyard.  Now we just ease the adjuster pretty much
all the way and focus on the vang, outhaul and position of the pole end
(about 6 inches aft of parallel to the boom).

The best thing for downwind racing is an instrument system that will show
you wind based VMG.  Maximize VMG and your results will improve.

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:44 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am going to try to focus more on backstay adjustment when racing this
> summer.  I keep reading and being told that it is really important to
> adjust for optimal speed.  One thing I have not encountered is a guide to
> off-wind backstay adjustment.  I would suspect that on any angle beyond a
> close reach it may not matter much.  What do others do off the wind?
> Thanks- Dave
>
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Re: Stus-List Backstay adjustment downwind

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

For downwind, I loosen it to zero pressure (or thereabouts).

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of David Knecht via
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 10:44 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Stus-List Backstay adjustment downwind

 

I am going to try to focus more on backstay adjustment when racing this
summer.  I keep reading and being told that it is really important to adjust
for optimal speed.  One thing I have not encountered is a guide to off-wind
backstay adjustment.  I would suspect that on any angle beyond a close reach
it may not matter much.  What do others do off the wind?  Thanks- Dave

 

David Knecht

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT




 

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Stus-List Backstay adjustment downwind

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I am going to try to focus more on backstay adjustment when racing this summer. 
 I keep reading and being told that it is really important to adjust for 
optimal speed.  One thing I have not encountered is a guide to off-wind 
backstay adjustment.  I would suspect that on any angle beyond a close reach it 
may not matter much.  What do others do off the wind?  Thanks- Dave

David Knecht
S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List]

Thanks so much.  I’ll cover the cost

JK

Motion Designs Limited
647 990 7752

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> JohnKelly,
> 
> I'm not sure the 35 MkII has the star / sword.  I know the MkI doesn't.  Can 
> any MKII owner verify that?
> 
> Otherwise, I'll take my Sawzall and see if I can get them if Mike will let me 
> cut the boat.
> 
>   -- 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA


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Stus-List Marine Fork Lift vs Travel Lift - C 34+ ?

[Stephen Thorne via CnC-List]

Folks,

A Marina has offered to try and use their boat fork lift (80,000 lb) to
lift Deja Vu’ off the custom trailer we have - splash her for whatever
period of time we sail and then lift and put back on the trailer.  So it’s
a “dry sailing” option if this could work?  The Marina operator reports
they can lift up to 25,000 lb boats with this system.

The fork lift would have unobstructed access to the transom of Deja Vu and
with the engine and fuel tank behind the keel I was wondering if the
weight/balance etc this idea would work or not?

Any thoughts or experience from other people who have tried this or had
experience with other boats?

Appreciate your thoughts

Stephen Thorne
C 34+ Deja Vu’
770.722.2848
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

JohnKelly,

I'm not sure the 35 MkII has the star / sword.  I know the MkI doesn't.
Can any MKII owner verify that?

Otherwise, I'll take my Sawzall and see if I can get them if Mike will let
me cut the boat.

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:24 PM JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Could you grab a sawzall and grab me the star and sword ?
>
> JohnKelly Cuthbertson
>
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List]

Son of...

I’m slowly expanding Dad’s personal archive and the cove strip has always been 
recognized as his hand.  Originally done on Inishfree in 1955, it became 
synonymous with C

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 9:12 AM, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> John Kelly Cuthbertson...Any relation?
> 
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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[David Risch via CnC-List]

John Kelly Cuthbertson...Any relation?

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650

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Cc: JohnKelly Cuthbertson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

Could you grab a sawzall and grab me the star and sword ?

JohnKelly Cuthbertson 

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Re: Stus-List C 35 about to be scrapped in Pensacola, FL

[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

Is it worth saving or get it for free

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 11:35 PM Don Kern via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Looking at the HIN that is a 1974 C Mk*2*
>
> Don Kern
> *Fireball *C Mk2
> Bristol RI
>
>
> On 6/30/2020 6:54 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Was it Touché?  :)
>
> I saw it last week but thought it was a 34.
>
> If anybody wants me to look at it for parts, let me know.  I deal with
> Mike at Southern Cross often. Touché is docked about 2 blocks away. I drive
> past it on my way to my slip.
>
> I should be there next week.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touché 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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