Re: Stus-List Masthead sheave replacement

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Barbara,

You may want to give some thought about going up the mast when the boat is on 
jack stands. Most yards that I know of strictly forbid it.

Dave
C 37

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> On Oct 21, 2016, at 20:48, Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My boat's on the hard prefacing a Matthew haulout.  While she's out, she's 
> due for some bottom work and thruhull replacement.  I'm going to replace the 
> main and jib halyard sheaves at the masthead while she's out of the water, 
> and while I know it's easier to replace them with the mast stepped, that's 
> not going to happen this time around.  That being said, can anyone here help 
> inform me as to what I have to do to get the sheaves out once I'm up the 
> mast? Can't find any good info online about this procedure for a 33-1.  I 
> have seen that there are pins that look like rivets on one side of the mast 
> that hold the sheaves in place.  If I can get the pins out with a 
> punch/chisel and don't lose the sheaves inside the mast, what else do I need 
> to think about?  I have spare halyards to go aloft so there wont' be tension 
> on said main and jib halyards. What tools do I need?  Thought I would block 
> the holes in the sheave block to keep them from falling down inside the mast. 
>  Any thoughts much appreciated. 
>  
> Barbara Hickson
> "Flight Risk" C 33-1
> Charleston, SC
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations
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> 
> You should talk to Doyle Boston Sailmakers in Sarnia. They have done a lot of 
> work for me over the years, including re-cutting and re-sizing, as well as a 
> brand  new Dacron genoa. Not the cheapest option for new sails, but they are 
> the go-to guys for the racers around here and they just might be able to 
> breathe some new life into your baffed out old main. Full battens in a main 
> can work wonders in light air. Or they might not, but they will tell you if 
> you take the sail there. They are located close to the Bluewater Bridge and 
> the Sarnia Yacht Club. 
> 
> Steve Thomas
> C MKIII
> Port Stanley, ON
> 
>  Dave S via CnC-List  wrote: 
> Just received the results from the fall check-up and the local sail
> loft has diagnosed Windstar's ('85 33-2) mainsail as "beyond
> expired".  Cue the Monty Python...
> 
> The current main has two sets of reef points, (cringle at the leech and and
> ring-on-webbing-straps at the luff.)
> No telltales other than streamers off the leech.
> IIRC there may be a leech line.
> 4 partial battens battens.
> There are two cringles at the clew, one above the other, and what I believe
> is called a "shelf" of lighter weight cloth along the foot.  Have never
> used this out of ignorance, but perhaps I should.
> it has a rope foot, slides on the luff.
> 
> I will have Rolly Tasker in Thailand quote, as well as UK sails here in
> Toronto.
> 
> 
> I value the 33-2's performance but most of my sailing is recreational
> sailing here on Lake Ontario.  Would like to distance race but not looking
> to be ultra-competitive at the top level.  Don't want to buy another
> Main for this boat in the next decade.
> 
> Any thoughts or recommendations on a replacement, or comments on sail
> lofts?  Many thanks!
> 
> Dave
> Windstar 33-2
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 10:59:23 -0400
> From: "Martin Kane" 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations
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> 
> Dave 
> 
> Check out Precision Sails in Victoria BC. They have a great on-line site. 
> Sails are made Asia somewhere but inspected and shipped from BC.  I got a 135 
> and asym from them this year. Very happy with the product and price.
> 
> 
> 
> Martin 
> 
> C 29-2 Recalculating
> 
> MCC Toronto
> 
> 
> 
> From: Dave S [mailto:syerd...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:56 AM
> To: C Stus List 
> Subject: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations
> 
> 
> 
> Just received the results from the fall check-up and the local sail loft has 
> diagnosed Windstar's ('85 33-2) mainsail as "beyond expired".  Cue the Monty 

Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

[robert via CnC-List]

Chuck:

I agree with you.backing in does provide more control, especially 
for the bow.   I have done this a few times over the past month or so as 
I have had to move my boat from one slip to another and I chose to back 
in so I did not have to change my lines and fenders from one side to the 
other.it was far less stressful than I had thought.


It makes leaving the slip a lot easier as well.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2016-10-21 9:55 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote:
I'm lucky to have gotten a very good slip.  It's a goofy slip no one 
else wanted, with the dock on an angle, the two rear piling are on an 
angle. There is a pair of bow piling, 30 feet out from the nearest 
rear one and another pair another 20 feet out.  The previous boat was 
a 50 footer.  Everyone backs in at my marina cause the finger docks 
are short and it's the only way on and off the boat.  The piling 
spacing allows me to lay my boat against two piling most of the time. 
 But the angled dock means I must lay my boat's stern on one piling. 
 If I go in too far, the bow can swing past the forward piling and 
into my neighbor's boat, so I'm careful not to do that.


I learned to back in effortlessly solo using short pulses of power.   
I'm sure others use this method.  I approach the marina bow first with 
my engine at idle and shift to neutral and try to coast to a position 
where I line up the boat well out from the slip, like twoo boat 
lengths, and come to a full stop, Sometimes I use reverse to stop the 
boat, then I walk around in front of the wheel so I'm facing aft, the 
wheel and the direction of travel.  Now I have a great view of the 
slip and key reference points; the rudder head and backstay mark my 
boat's  centerline; the stern rails mark the sides of the boat.  I 
center the wheel, marked with white tape, and give a short burst of 
power to start the boat moving backward.  Once it's moving backward 
toward the slip, I shift to neutral and steer to keep the boat aiming 
always for the centerline of the slip.  The engine is idling and I 
steer and operate the shifter only, into reverse to keep her moving 
slow.  I find the bow follows the keel and the keel follows the 
rudder, and I come into my slip with the engine at idle, then shift to 
forward for a short burst to stop my boat so the stern quarter can 
rest against the rear piling and I can reach the landlubber line 
between pilings to grab my springline and tie it to a midship cleat. 
 One more dockline and she's safely in the slip.  Two lines are all 
that's needed if you get the right two.  Then I grab the boat hook and 
fetch all the rest till I have 6 lines securing the boat.


This method requires you to mark the wheel to center the rudder, and 
mark the docklines so the length is the same each time.  I use red and 
green tape to mark the docklines, but a sharpie would work as well.


Why back in?  I used to bow in to the dock for privacy, but if the bow 
gets blown off the course, there is no way to check it without a bow 
thruster.  You really have more control backing in.  You're closer to 
the end of the boat as it approaches the dock and have easier 
judgement and better control of the engine and the bow is less 
suceptable to crosswinds this way.


Chuck
Resolute
1990 C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md


On October 21, 2016 at 9:17 AM Michael Crombie via CnC-List
 wrote:

I single hand a lot and prefer the slip on my port. I come in bow
first so I pull towards the slip when i go into reverse to stop
the boat (as I'm returning to the slip.) It is a slight hassle
departing, but i just give the stern a bit of a push off as I step
aboard.

I also made sure that i picked a slip that faces into the
prevailing wind...this makes docking easier if you ever need to
sail into your slip. I just turn into the slip and the wind stops me.

I agree with a previous lister that you want to avoid slips with
the prevailing wind pushing you off the slip. This situation
causes the most problems at my marina, even for boats with lots of
crew.

Mike
Atacama 33mkii
Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

I'm lucky to have gotten a very good slip.  It's a goofy slip no one else 
wanted, with the dock on an angle, the two rear piling are on an angle. There 
is a pair of bow piling, 30 feet out from the nearest rear one and another pair 
another 20 feet out.  The previous boat was a 50 footer.  Everyone backs in at 
my marina cause the finger docks are short and it's the only way on and off the 
boat.  The piling spacing allows me to lay my boat against two piling most of 
the time.  But the angled dock means I must lay my boat's stern on one piling.  
If I go in too far, the bow can swing past the forward piling and into my 
neighbor's boat, so I'm careful not to do that.

I learned to back in effortlessly solo using short pulses of power.   I'm sure 
others use this method.  I approach the marina bow first with my engine at idle 
and shift to neutral and try to coast to a position where I line up the boat 
well out from the slip, like twoo boat lengths, and come to a full stop, 
Sometimes I use reverse to stop the boat, then I walk around in front of the 
wheel so I'm facing aft, the wheel and the direction of travel.  Now I have a 
great view of the slip and key reference points; the rudder head and backstay 
mark my boat's  centerline; the stern rails mark the sides of the boat.  I 
center the wheel, marked with white tape, and give a short burst of power to 
start the boat moving backward.  Once it's moving backward toward the slip, I 
shift to neutral and steer to keep the boat aiming always for the centerline of 
the slip.  The engine is idling and I steer and operate the shifter only, into 
reverse to keep her moving slow.  I find the bow follows the keel and the keel 
follows the rudder, and I come into my slip with the engine at idle, then shift 
to forward for a short burst to stop my boat so the stern quarter can rest 
against the rear piling and I can reach the landlubber line between pilings to 
grab my springline and tie it to a midship cleat.  One more dockline and she's 
safely in the slip.  Two lines are all that's needed if you get the right two.  
Then I grab the boat hook and fetch all the rest till I have 6 lines securing 
the boat.   

This method requires you to mark the wheel to center the rudder, and mark the 
docklines so the length is the same each time.  I use red and green tape to 
mark the docklines, but a sharpie would work as well.

Why back in?  I used to bow in to the dock for privacy, but if the bow gets 
blown off the course, there is no way to check it without a bow thruster.  You 
really have more control backing in.  You're closer to the end of the boat as 
it approaches the dock and have easier judgement and better control of the 
engine and the bow is less suceptable to crosswinds this way.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md


> 
> On October 21, 2016 at 9:17 AM Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I single hand a lot and prefer the slip on my port. I come in bow first 
> so I pull towards the slip when i go into reverse to stop the boat (as I'm 
> returning to the slip.) It is a slight hassle departing, but i just give the 
> stern a bit of a push off as I step aboard.
> 
> I also made sure that i picked a slip that faces into the prevailing 
> wind...this makes docking easier if you ever need to sail into your slip. I 
> just turn into the slip and the wind stops me.
> 
> I agree with a previous lister that you want to avoid slips with the 
> prevailing wind pushing you off the slip. This situation causes the most 
> problems at my marina, even for boats with lots of crew.
> 
> Mike
> Atacama 33mkii
> Toronto
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> Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.
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Re: Stus-List Masthead sheave replacement

[Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List]

My boat's on the hard prefacing a Matthew haulout.  While she's out, she's due 
for some bottom work and thruhull replacement.  I'm going to replace the main 
and jib halyard sheaves at the masthead while she's out of the water, and while 
I know it's easier to replace them with the mast stepped, that's not going to 
happen this time around.  That being said, can anyone here help inform me as to 
what I have to do to get the sheaves out once I'm up the mast? Can't find any 
good info online about this procedure for a 33-1.  I have seen that there are 
pins that look like rivets on one side of the mast that hold the sheaves in 
place.  If I can get the pins out with a punch/chisel and don't lose the 
sheaves inside the mast, what else do I need to think about?  I have spare 
halyards to go aloft so there wont' be tension on said main and jib halyards. 
What tools do I need?  Thought I would block the holes in the sheave block to 
keep them from falling down inside the mast.  Any thoughts much appreciated.   
Barbara Hickson"Flight Risk" C 33-1Charleston, SC 
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 10:43:37 -0400
From: Steve Thomas 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations
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You should talk to Doyle Boston Sailmakers in Sarnia. They have done a lot of 
work for me over the years, including re-cutting and re-sizing, as well as a 
brand  new Dacron genoa. Not the cheapest option for new sails, but they are 
the go-to guys for the racers around here and they just might be able to 
breathe some new life into your baffed out old main. Full battens in a main can 
work wonders in light air. Or they might not, but they will tell you if you 
take the sail there. They are located close to the Bluewater Bridge and the 
Sarnia Yacht Club. 

Steve Thomas
C MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

 Dave S via CnC-List  wrote: 
Just received the results from the fall check-up and the local sail
loft has diagnosed Windstar's ('85 33-2) mainsail as "beyond
expired".  Cue the Monty Python...

The current main has two sets of reef points, (cringle at the leech and and
ring-on-webbing-straps at the luff.)
No telltales other than streamers off the leech.
IIRC there may be a leech line.
4 partial battens battens.
There are two cringles at the clew, one above the other, and what I believe
is called a "shelf" of lighter weight cloth along the foot.  Have never
used this out of ignorance, but perhaps I should.
it has a rope foot, slides on the luff.

I will have Rolly Tasker in Thailand quote, as well as UK sails here in
Toronto.


I value the 33-2's performance but most of my sailing is recreational
sailing here on Lake Ontario.  Would like to distance race but not looking
to be ultra-competitive at the top level.      Don't want to buy another
Main for this boat in the next decade.

Any thoughts or recommendations on a replacement, or comments on sail
lofts?  Many thanks!

Dave
Windstar 33-2




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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 10:59:23 -0400
From: "Martin Kane" 
To: 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations
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Dave 

Check out Precision Sails in Victoria BC. They have a great on-line site. Sails 
are made Asia somewhere but inspected and shipped from BC.  I got a 135 and 
asym from them this year. Very happy with the product and price.

 

Martin 

C 29-2 Recalculating

MCC Toronto

 

From: Dave S [mailto:syerd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:56 AM
To: C Stus List 
Subject: Stus-List Mainsail replacement considerations

 

Just received the results from the fall check-up and the local sail loft has 
diagnosed Windstar's ('85 33-2) mainsail as "beyond expired".  Cue the Monty 
Python...

 

The current main has two sets of reef points, (cringle at the leech and and 
ring-on-webbing-straps at the luff.)  

No telltales other than streamers off the leech.  

IIRC there may be a leech line.  

4 partial battens battens.  

There are two cringles at the clew, one above the other, and what I believe is 
called a "shelf" of lighter weight cloth along the foot.  Have never used this 
out of ignorance, but perhaps I should.  

it has a rope foot, slides on the luff.  

 

I will have Rolly Tasker in Thailand 

Re: Stus-List Possible bargain C

[Harry Hallgring via CnC-List]

Martin,

Andy Burton tells me it is not the boat here in the yard, but another yard on 
the other side of the island.  Funny coincidence, there is a 40 here that has 
the side portlights taped over, just like the CL ad mentions!   I intended to 
go by the boat after work...but now it's raining.  I will swing by tomorrow and 
see if I can get a few good photos for you.




Andy, 


if your friend wants, I can help him get photos up on hi CL page...he admits to 
be having problems??




Harry Hallgring hhallgr...@icloud.com








On Oct 21, 2016, at 03:28 PM, Martin Christopher  wrote:






Hi Harry,




Am in the market for a C, and interested in receiving pictures and info if 
you have any

/J


On Oct 21, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Harry Hallgring  wrote:





There is a C 40 here at NEB with a missing window...quite likely the one 
listed if anyone wants more info or pictures.


Harry Hallgring
hhallgr...@icloud.com


On Oct 21, 2016, at 08:55 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
 wrote:







Listers,

I have no affiliation with the seller nor do I know anything about this boat, 
but I stumbled across this Craigslist listing this morning:

http://southcoast.craigslist.org/boa/5838062124.html



Even basket case 40’ C don’t generally sell this cheap.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA

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Re: Stus-List Possible bargain C

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I think it's in reasonable shape with a few soft spots in the deck. 
Let me know what you think. It belongs to a friend.

Andy
C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Oct 21, 2016, at 11:09, Harry Hallgring Jr via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Andy...I may have to take a look after work to see what it's worth as 
> either a boat or parts. 
> 
> Harry
> Sent from my iPhone 8 beta
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:39, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No, the one on CL is at Pirates Cove in Portsmouth. I've noticed the one at 
>> NEB and wondered what the story was with that one.
>> By the way, I saw you heading north to the yard the other day, Harry. Mirage 
>> looks terrific, even after a full season.
>> 
>> Andy
>> C 40
>> Peregrine
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Harry Hallgring via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> There is a C 40 here at NEB with a missing window...quite likely the one 
>>> listed if anyone wants more info or pictures.
>>> Harry Hallgring
>>> hhallgr...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Oct 21, 2016, at 08:55 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
 Listers,
 
 I have no affiliation with the seller nor do I know anything about this 
 boat, but I stumbled across this Craigslist listing this morning:
 
 http://southcoast.craigslist.org/boa/5838062124.html
 
  
 
 Even basket case 40’ C don’t generally sell this cheap.
 
 Chuck Gilchrest
 
 S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35
 
 Padanaram, MA
 
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Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

[svpegasus38]

I agree with the port tie, and would like to add. Prevailing wind is 
important. I had a slip that the wind blew me off, had major issues getting 
tied up in any thing over 10 kts of breeze. If you are lucky enough to have a 
slip with fingers on both sides then it doesn't matter. I single hand alot so 
this what I look for in a slip.
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 #4just west of Ballard, WA.




-- Original message--From: robert via CnC-List Date: Fri, Oct 21, 2016 
05:24To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: robert;Subject:Stus-List Slip Choice
I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have enjoyed the 
ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially since I do mostly 
single handed sailing.  However, I am considering getting a 'slip' at our 
marina for next season.  There are several currently available, and with a 'bow 
in' docking (my preference) I have the choice to do it from both port or 
starboard docking.My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, 
accentuates the prop walk to port when starting in reverse.So my question is 
"Is there a preference for either a port or starboard docking (bow in) with my 
prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it make any difference?Rob 
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Re: Stus-List Slip choice

[Jack Brennan via CnC-List]

Try using a spring line when you back out. It takes all of the drama out of 
leaving a slip.

I have a 30-foot length of floating line that I tie off to the starboard cleat 
at the stern of the boat. When I’m ready to leave, I route it around a cleat on 
the rear piling and then back to the cockpit, where I hold it loosely in one 
hand.

As I back out, I put a little tension on the floating line as it runs out. This 
pulls the stern to starboard and the bow faces out in the correct direction for 
the channel. It has worked for years in all currents and winds, once you do it 
a couple of times and get a feel for it.

A floating line means that you avoid the possibility of it wrapping around the 
prop. Reel it in at your leisure as you’re heading out.

Jack Brennan
Former C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.




From: Peter Burford via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 10:40 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Peter Burford
Subject: Stus-List Slip choice

Our C 29 also has the offset prop and the prop walk is pretty severe.  We’re 
in a slip, with the dock on the port side.



I’ve found the trick to overcoming the prop walk is to turn the wheel about a 
quarter-turn to starboard when backing out.  If you do this before you put the 
boat in reverse, it backs out straight.



Had plenty of amusing exits before figuring this out!





Peter Burford

C 29 “Imagine”

Ithaca NY






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Re: Stus-List Possible bargain C

[Harry Hallgring Jr via CnC-List]

Thanks Andy...I may have to take a look after work to see what it's worth as 
either a boat or parts. 

Harry
Sent from my iPhone 8 beta

> On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:39, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> No, the one on CL is at Pirates Cove in Portsmouth. I've noticed the one at 
> NEB and wondered what the story was with that one.
> By the way, I saw you heading north to the yard the other day, Harry. Mirage 
> looks terrific, even after a full season.
> 
> Andy
> C 40
> Peregrine
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Harry Hallgring via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> There is a C 40 here at NEB with a missing window...quite likely the one 
>> listed if anyone wants more info or pictures.
>> Harry Hallgring
>> hhallgr...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 08:55 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> Listers,
>>> 
>>> I have no affiliation with the seller nor do I know anything about this 
>>> boat, but I stumbled across this Craigslist listing this morning:
>>> 
>>> http://southcoast.craigslist.org/boa/5838062124.html
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Even basket case 40’ C don’t generally sell this cheap.
>>> 
>>> Chuck Gilchrest
>>> 
>>> S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35
>>> 
>>> Padanaram, MA
>>> 
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> 
> -- 
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Stus-List Slip choice

[Peter Burford via CnC-List]

Our C 29 also has the offset prop and the prop walk is pretty severe.
We're in a slip, with the dock on the port side.  

 

I've found the trick to overcoming the prop walk is to turn the wheel about
a quarter-turn to starboard when backing out.  If you do this before you put
the boat in reverse, it backs out straight.  

 

Had plenty of amusing exits before figuring this out!

 

 

Peter Burford

C 29 "Imagine"

Ithaca NY 

 

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Re: Stus-List Butyl sealant

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Once again, the list is awesome!

 

Gary

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:35 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl sealant

 

http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape

Dennis C.

 

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
 > wrote:

I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we use 
to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on my old 
hard drive which cratered….. can anyone give me the best source?

 

Thanks, Gary


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Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I would say that coming bow in, prop-walk is irrelevant but come out any
amount of walk will make things interesting to say the least.

I back in and have prop-walk to port in reverse.  Because of this, I love
port side ties when filling/pumping tanks or coming into a tee pier for the
night.

When backing out of your slip the boat will prefer to turn one way or the
other to get into the fairway.  I think that will be your only
consideration.  If your prop-walk is to port as is the case on many boats
then you'll probably want a slip on the right side of the fairway.  This
way when you back out, you'll back to port, down the fairway towards shore,
and then put it in forward and drive out straight.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Oct 21, 2016 8:24 AM, "robert via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have
> enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially
> since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering getting
> a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several currently
> available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have the choice to
> do it from both port or starboard docking.
>
> My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the prop
> walk to port when starting in reverse.
>
> So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard
> docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it
> make any difference?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
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Re: Stus-List Possible bargain C

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Going out for a sail this morning, then thinking of taking some out-of-town 
guests to Newport this afternoon. Is it worth a detour through NEB on the way?

Chuck B
C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

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> On Oct 21, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Harry Hallgring via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is a C 40 here at NEB with a missing window...quite likely the one 
> listed if anyone wants more info or pictures.
> Harry Hallgring
> hhallgr...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 08:55 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>> I have no affiliation with the seller nor do I know anything about this 
>> boat, but I stumbled across this Craigslist listing this morning:
>> 
>> http://southcoast.craigslist.org/boa/5838062124.html
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Even basket case 40’ C don’t generally sell this cheap.
>> 
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>> 
>> S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35
>> 
>> Padanaram, MA
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Rob

There is a vacant slip beside us.  Either the next one or the one over on road 
side.  The C 33-2 Colmonel spent some time there Spring 2015 with no issues

Mike

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert via 
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Cc: robert
Subject: Stus-List Slip Choice

A few of the available slips are in a rather confined area when backing out 
into the fairway..I am in a slip now that has no restrictions backing out 
but this slip belongs to a member who has hauled his boat..it is prime 
'realistate' at our club but I don't expect to get one of these.

Our marinas (slips) face north-south which is where most of the prevailing 
winds come from.in the Summer, we get more west winds than easterlies.

If I had a crew member with me, this wouldn't be as much of an issue but most 
days I am alone.

I have been coming and going from the slip I am in now alone for almost a month 
but there are no restrictions (narrow fairway, etc).  I don't expect to get one 
of these slips.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2016-10-21 9:41 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
Shouldn't make any difference coming in.  Will have affect leaving the slip.  
Are there any considerations when backing out into the fairway or marina?
I'd look more at the prevailing wind and choose the side that is downwind most 
of the time.  We had a temporary slip in Pensacola with a port side pier.  The 
wind was almost always blowing us away from the pier.  Pain in the butt to 
angle in and have crew leap off and secure the boat before the wind blew us 
into the neighbor's boat.

Personally, my preference is a port side pier because I back in.  Prop walk 
brings boat to the pier.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:23 AM, robert via CnC-List 
> wrote:
I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have enjoyed the 
ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially since I do mostly 
single handed sailing.  However, I am considering getting a 'slip' at our 
marina for next season.  There are several currently available, and with a 'bow 
in' docking (my preference) I have the choice to do it from both port or 
starboard docking.

My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the prop walk 
to port when starting in reverse.

So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard docking 
(bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it make any 
difference?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

[Michael Crombie via CnC-List]

I single hand a lot and prefer the slip on my port.  I come in bow first so I 
pull towards the slip when i go into reverse to stop the boat (as I'm returning 
to the slip.)  It is a slight hassle departing, but i just give the stern a bit 
of a push off as I step aboard. 

I also made sure that i picked a slip that faces into the prevailing 
wind...this makes docking easier if you ever need to sail into your slip. I 
just turn into the slip and the wind stops me.

I agree with a previous lister that you want to avoid slips with the prevailing 
wind pushing you off the slip.  This situation causes the most problems at my 
marina, even for boats with lots of crew.

Mike
Atacama 33mkii
Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Possible bargain C

[Harry Hallgring via CnC-List]

There is a C 40 here at NEB with a missing window...quite likely the one 
listed if anyone wants more info or pictures.




Harry Hallgring
hhallgr...@icloud.com


On Oct 21, 2016, at 08:55 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
 wrote:







Listers,

I have no affiliation with the seller nor do I know anything about this boat, 
but I stumbled across this Craigslist listing this morning:

http://southcoast.craigslist.org/boa/5838062124.html



Even basket case 40’ C don’t generally sell this cheap.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA

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Stus-List Slip Choice

[robert via CnC-List]

A few of the available slips are in a rather confined area when backing 
out into the fairway..I am in a slip now that has no restrictions 
backing out but this slip belongs to a member who has hauled his 
boat..it is prime 'realistate' at our club but I don't expect to get 
one of these.


Our marinas (slips) face north-south which is where most of the 
prevailing winds come from.in the Summer, we get more west winds 
than easterlies.


If I had a crew member with me, this wouldn't be as much of an issue but 
most days I am alone.


I have been coming and going from the slip I am in now alone for almost 
a month but there are no restrictions (narrow fairway, etc). I don't 
expect to get one of these slips.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2016-10-21 9:41 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
Shouldn't make any difference coming in.  Will have affect leaving the 
slip.  Are there any considerations when backing out into the fairway 
or marina?


I'd look more at the prevailing wind and choose the side that is 
downwind most of the time.  We had a temporary slip in Pensacola with 
a port side pier.  The wind was almost always blowing us away from the 
pier. Pain in the butt to angle in and have crew leap off and secure 
the boat before the wind blew us into the neighbor's boat.


Personally, my preference is a port side pier because I back in.  Prop 
walk brings boat to the pier.


Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:23 AM, robert via CnC-List 
> wrote:


I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and
have enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it,
especially since I do mostly single handed sailing. However, I am
considering getting a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There
are several currently available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my
preference) I have the choice to do it from both port or starboard
docking.

My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates
the prop walk to port when starting in reverse.

So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or
starboard docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?" Reasons
why?  Or does it make any difference?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

I second Dennis's advice on getting a slip with the dock downwind. A cross wind 
will swamp prop walk effects. I docked for many years in a slip in a river that 
was always cross current and usually cross winded. Pretty hairy getting in and 
out sometimes. 

Steve Thomas
C MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON

 "Dennis C. via CnC-List"  wrote: 
Shouldn't make any difference coming in.  Will have affect leaving the
slip.  Are there any considerations when backing out into the fairway or
marina?

I'd look more at the prevailing wind and choose the side that is downwind
most of the time.  We had a temporary slip in Pensacola with a port side
pier.  The wind was almost always blowing us away from the pier.  Pain in
the butt to angle in and have crew leap off and secure the boat before the
wind blew us into the neighbor's boat.

Personally, my preference is a port side pier because I back in.  Prop walk
brings boat to the pier.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:23 AM, robert via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have
> enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially
> since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering getting
> a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several currently
> available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have the choice to
> do it from both port or starboard docking.
>
> My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the prop
> walk to port when starting in reverse.
>
> So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard
> docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it
> make any difference?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
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Stus-List Possible bargain C

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Listers,

I have no affiliation with the seller nor do I know anything about this
boat, but I stumbled across this Craigslist listing this morning:

http://southcoast.craigslist.org/boa/5838062124.html

 

Even basket case 40' C don't generally sell this cheap.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35

Padanaram, MA

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Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Shouldn't make any difference coming in.  Will have affect leaving the
slip.  Are there any considerations when backing out into the fairway or
marina?

I'd look more at the prevailing wind and choose the side that is downwind
most of the time.  We had a temporary slip in Pensacola with a port side
pier.  The wind was almost always blowing us away from the pier.  Pain in
the butt to angle in and have crew leap off and secure the boat before the
wind blew us into the neighbor's boat.

Personally, my preference is a port side pier because I back in.  Prop walk
brings boat to the pier.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:23 AM, robert via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have
> enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially
> since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering getting
> a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several currently
> available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have the choice to
> do it from both port or starboard docking.
>
> My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the prop
> walk to port when starting in reverse.
>
> So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard
> docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it
> make any difference?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Hi Rob,
 If your prop walks to port as you apply reverse, you want to tie up
port to.  That way you can use prop walk to your advantage.  You can
approach the dock with a slight angle toward the dock, and with a small
burst of reverse to stop the boat, the stern will move to port and snug up
against the dock.  When backing out of your slip you should give her a
small burst of reverse and immediately shift to neutral.  That will stop
the prop walk and allow you to turn whichever direction you want (including
straight).

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 8:23 AM, robert via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have
> enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially
> since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering getting
> a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several currently
> available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have the choice to
> do it from both port or starboard docking.
>
> My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the prop
> walk to port when starting in reverse.
>
> So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard
> docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it
> make any difference?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
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Stus-List Slip Choice

[robert via CnC-List]

I have had a boat on the same mooring for approx. 20 years and have 
enjoyed the ease (stress free) of coming and going from it, especially 
since I do mostly single handed sailing.  However, I am considering 
getting a 'slip' at our marina for next season.  There are several 
currently available, and with a 'bow in' docking (my preference) I have 
the choice to do it from both port or starboard docking.


My boat has an 'offset prop shaft' which, I believe, accentuates the 
prop walk to port when starting in reverse.


So my question is "Is there a preference for either a port or starboard 
docking (bow in) with my prop walk situation?"  Reasons why?  Or does it 
make any difference?


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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