Re: Stus-List Boomkicker

2017-12-14 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
Marek, That's actually my main halyard at the aft end of the boom, (in the photo it's a messenger as I remove my halyards for the winter), but whenever the main's down I put the halyard on the boom end and tension it a little to help carry the weight. When the boom kicker is carrying the

Re: Stus-List Boomkicker

2017-12-14 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Neil, I noticed that you have a Boomkicker (and the topping lift). The Boomkicker looks perfectly straight. I always thought that it should be bent upwards a bit to support the boom. Marek 1994 C270 "Legato" Ottawa, ON From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Neil

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-14 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
Jim, I bought the boat eight years ago, came with that boom. I don't know if it's the original, it may not be as I think it's a little longer than some other 35-1's. My understanding is the early boats had roller reefing with round booms, but I don't know if the factory changed in later

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-14 Thread Jim via CnC-List
Jeff Thanks for the recommendation for zephyrwerks. Cheers, James - Original Message - From: "Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Jeffrey Nelson" Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 7:35:26 AM Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-14 Thread Jim via CnC-List
Neil Much appreciated. The picture is very helpful. As an aside, my boom is round. Did you replace yours at some point? Cheers, James - Original Message - From: "Neil Gallagher via CnC-List" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Neil Gallagher"

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread M Bodnar via CnC-List
Rod, I used Fusion plastic paint that I bought at Canadian Tire to paint the backside of the of the windows. I also used the 4991 tape - my understanding was that the thicker tape increased the thickness of the silicone layer and that allows it to

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
My mistake on the number. Good catch. From: Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 3:55 PM To: C List Cc: Gary Russell Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement Note: I used VHB 4991 (0.090"), not 4941. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Dennis

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
You raise good points. My guess is that the 3M rep did not consider the expansion/contraction issue or the issue of wanting space to squeeze in sealant. Also, 4991 is “more conformable” if you have an uneven surface (although mine is flat). From: Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: Thursday,

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
I looked at the properties of the two types of VHB tape mentioned, and also decided the 4991 was the best fit. The added thickness allows for more 795 to get behind the acrylic; and also shows for greater differences in the expansion of the acrylic vs. the fiberglass as Doug mentioned. So

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
I also used the 4991 tape for the expansion properties of the fiberglass vs plexiglass.   Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Rebecca Leah Lf39 Original message From: Gary Russell via CnC-List Date: 12/14/17 12:55 (GMT-08:00) To: C

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Note: I used VHB 4991 (0.090"), not 4941. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > This might be why 3M recommends the 5952: > > >- Creates a permanent seal against water, moisture and more by >offering better gap

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
The problem with VHB 5952 is that it's only available in 0.045" thickness which is too thin for this application IMO. I prefer VHB 4991 at 0.090". VHB 5952 is not thick enough to deal with the surface variations of the coach roof, the different rates of expansion of the gel coat vs. the Plexiglas

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Just two comments. 1. I've had good experience with black LifeSeal which is a blended sealant as opposed to a pure silicone sealant. Just a personal preference. 2. There are black primers for Plexiglas which promote good adhesion. Here's a link to a window replacement on a 24 footer I did a

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List
So do we have some agreement: 1. Best material for windows Plexiglass of similar product 2. Best application 3M VHB 5952 tape 3. Best sealant Dow Corning 795 or Pecora 895 (same properties) 4. Paint behind windows black or coloring the area behind the window (cavity) that

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
I figure 1 tube per side. All depends on gap and application technique.   Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Rebecca Leah  Lf39 Original message From: "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" Date: 12/14/17 11:03 (GMT-08:00) To:

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Last question: will one tube of caulking do four windows? From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 1:51 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement This might be why 3M recommends the 5952: a.. Creates a permanent seal against water,

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List
Interesting I just emailed 3M and got the opposite answer Rod Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List > wrote: > > Incidentally, I noted in a previous e-mail that a 3M rep I talked to (by > calling in) recommended 5952 over

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
This might be why 3M recommends the 5952: - Creates a permanent seal against water, moisture and more by offering better gap filling capabilities That's in the 5952 description on the 3M site. It does not appear in the 4941 description. Could be the 5952 is more closed cell foam than

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Incidentally, I noted in a previous e-mail that a 3M rep I talked to (by calling in) recommended 5952 over 4941. I just inquired again – this time by e-mail. 3M responded that that it recommends the 59XX series for this application. For what it’s worth. From: bushmark4--- via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
By beveling and polishing the edges you prevent tiny crevices from becoming major cracks. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury Portland Or Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List > wrote: > > Good point! I also put a 45 degree bevel on the

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
OK I really appreciate all of these comments about window replacement, (mostly because I have one coming up this spring myself); I have been trying to save them all on one document, but it has become a hodge-podge of separate comments and bits of advice; can anyone put all of this together in

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Good point! I also put a 45 degree bevel on the back side of the Plexiglas to about half the thickness. I also put a very small bevel (1/16") on the front side just to protect any bare feet that might hit it. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:42 AM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
3/16 to 1/4 all the way around. I also bevel the the plexiglass a little.  Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Rebecca Leah Lf39 Original message From: "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" Date: 12/14/17 03:03 (GMT-08:00) To:

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
As Josh says, mask, mask, mask. Then fill the groove by pushing the caulk gun, not pulling it. That will force the sealant into the gap. To create a nice "factory" look, use the backside of a plastic spoon to smooth the excess sealant in the groove. It will create a nice concave shape. Try to

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Gary: I see. Thank you. This is why black sealant makes sense (as opposed to one that is close in color to the gel coat). Josh: Will do. From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:31 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Window

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Josh, Very true. Masking is everything. A little black sealant around the windows will ruin the look. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > The trick to having a

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The trick to having a nice finished look to any sealant is to mask, mask, mask! Finger trowel and remove as much excess product as possible. Make it look real clean and then immediately pull the mask at an acute angle. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Thu, Dec 14, 2017,

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Yes. But you need to use your finger to "trowel" the sealant behind the Plexiglas. That is what is special about the Dow Corning 795 is it has a longer "working time". The Plexiglas probably won't be as tight fitting because of the 0.090" thickness of the VHB tape. That 0.090" gap is what you

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-14 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Thanks. 3/16 to 1/4 inch total (adding half that amount top and bottom, and side to side) or that much space all around (which is clearly more than my existing windows)? From: svpegasus38 via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:25 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: svpegasus38