Stus-List Re: crank handle for roller furling boom on a 30 mk1

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I'm not sure if this will work...

https://forums.sailinganarchy.com/uploads/monthly_2021_09/88BDFA50-FC07-4D00-B15F-16C531C1702D.jpeg.952092f7a8c7daf187cbca24cd7ad2ca.jpeg

But if it does, you're welcome.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 19:20, Randal Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Andrew, and welcome.  For sharing images we typically put them on a
> google drive or whatever, and put the link in the message to the list.
>
> I’ve got 30 MK I hull #79 (1972), with roller-reefing boom, and still have
> the handle.  A previous owner rigged slab reefing, and I added a vang, so
> obviously my roller reefing isn’t used anymore (it’s just a conversation
> starter now).
>
> But I think Dennis’s recommendation is best for you.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
>
> On Sep 22, 2021, at 8:00 PM, andrew macLean via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Dennis. This is an elegant solution!
>
> On Sep 22, 2021, at 6:57 pm, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Go to mcmaster.com and order a piece of square tubing the correct size.
> When you get it, drill holes through one end and put a screwdriver or long
> bolt through it.  Use it to square up the boom.
>
> https://www.mcmaster.com/square-tubing/
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:29 PM andrew_m--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> We recently purchased a 1974 C 30 mk1. Our boat has a roller furling
>> boom, but didn’t come with the crank handle. Does anyone know where I can a
>> get a crank handle for the roller furling boom on a 1974 C 30 mk1? have
>> one I can borrow (we're near Victoria BC)? or know of another tool that'll
>> work in place of the original crank handle? Our boom's stuck at about 30
>> degrees from where it should be and I'd love to turn it back.
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
>
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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> - Stu
>
>
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>
>
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Stus-List Re: crank handle for roller furling boom on a 30 mk1

[Randal Stafford via CnC-List]

Hi Andrew, and welcome.  For sharing images we typically put them on a google 
drive or whatever, and put the link in the message to the list.

I’ve got 30 MK I hull #79 (1972), with roller-reefing boom, and still have the 
handle.  A previous owner rigged slab reefing, and I added a vang, so obviously 
my roller reefing isn’t used anymore (it’s just a conversation starter now).

But I think Dennis’s recommendation is best for you.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30 MK I #79
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 8:00 PM, andrew macLean via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Dennis. This is an elegant solution!
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 6:57 pm, Dennis C. via CnC-List > > wrote:
>> 
>> Go to mcmaster.com  and order a piece of square tubing 
>> the correct size.  When you get it, drill holes through one end and put a 
>> screwdriver or long bolt through it.  Use it to square up the boom.
>> 
>> https://www.mcmaster.com/square-tubing/ 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:29 PM andrew_m--- via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> We recently purchased a 1974 C 30 mk1. Our boat has a roller furling boom, 
>> but didn’t come with the crank handle. Does anyone know where I can a get a 
>> crank handle for the roller furling boom on a 1974 C 30 mk1? have one I 
>> can borrow (we're near Victoria BC)? or know of another tool that'll work in 
>> place of the original crank handle? Our boom's stuck at about 30 degrees 
>> from where it should be and I'd love to turn it back.
>> 
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>>   Thanks - Stu
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>>   Thanks - Stu
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

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Stus-List Re: crank handle for roller furling boom on a 30 mk1

[andrew macLean via CnC-List]

Thank you Dennis. This is an elegant solution!

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 6:57 pm, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Go to mcmaster.com  and order a piece of square tubing 
> the correct size.  When you get it, drill holes through one end and put a 
> screwdriver or long bolt through it.  Use it to square up the boom.
> 
> https://www.mcmaster.com/square-tubing/ 
> 
> 
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:29 PM andrew_m--- via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> We recently purchased a 1974 C 30 mk1. Our boat has a roller furling boom, 
> but didn’t come with the crank handle. Does anyone know where I can a get a 
> crank handle for the roller furling boom on a 1974 C 30 mk1? have one I can 
> borrow (we're near Victoria BC)? or know of another tool that'll work in 
> place of the original crank handle? Our boom's stuck at about 30 degrees from 
> where it should be and I'd love to turn it back.
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>   Thanks - Stu
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

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Stus-List Re: crank handle for roller furling boom on a 30 mk1

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Go to mcmaster.com and order a piece of square tubing the correct size.
When you get it, drill holes through one end and put a screwdriver or long
bolt through it.  Use it to square up the boom.

https://www.mcmaster.com/square-tubing/

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:29 PM andrew_m--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We recently purchased a 1974 C 30 mk1. Our boat has a roller furling
> boom, but didn’t come with the crank handle. Does anyone know where I can a
> get a crank handle for the roller furling boom on a 1974 C 30 mk1? have
> one I can borrow (we're near Victoria BC)? or know of another tool that'll
> work in place of the original crank handle? Our boom's stuck at about 30
> degrees from where it should be and I'd love to turn it back.
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu



-- 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: crank handle for roller furling boom on a 30 mk1

[andrew macLean via CnC-List]

Thanks David. I think mine's is a little different. It’s a 7/16” square drive 
that I need to turn. I don’t think I could do it with a screwdriver.

I’m new here and don’t think we can post images?

Andrew

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 5:27 pm, David Godfrey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I use a large screwdriver on my 25. It fits in perfectly but obviously 
> doesn’t stay in or lock the boom in place. But it works. 
> 
> Yours truly,
> David Godfrey
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 8:29 PM, andrew_m--- via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> We recently purchased a 1974 C 30 mk1. Our boat has a roller furling boom, 
>> but didn’t come with the crank handle. Does anyone know where I can a get a 
>> crank handle for the roller furling boom on a 1974 C 30 mk1? have one I 
>> can borrow (we're near Victoria BC)? or know of another tool that'll work in 
>> place of the original crank handle? Our boom's stuck at about 30 degrees 
>> from where it should be and I'd love to turn it back.
>> 
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
>> Stu
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
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Stus-List Re: crank handle for roller furling boom on a 30 mk1

[David Godfrey via CnC-List]

I use a large screwdriver on my 25. It fits in perfectly but obviously doesn’t 
stay in or lock the boom in place. But it works. 

Yours truly,
David Godfrey

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 8:29 PM, andrew_m--- via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> We recently purchased a 1974 C 30 mk1. Our boat has a roller furling boom, 
> but didn’t come with the crank handle. Does anyone know where I can a get a 
> crank handle for the roller furling boom on a 1974 C 30 mk1? have one I can 
> borrow (we're near Victoria BC)? or know of another tool that'll work in 
> place of the original crank handle? Our boom's stuck at about 30 degrees from 
> where it should be and I'd love to turn it back.
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List crank handle for roller furling boom on a 30 mk1

[andrew_m--- via CnC-List]

We recently purchased a 1974 C 30 mk1. Our boat has a roller furling boom, 
but didn’t come with the crank handle. Does anyone know where I can a get a 
crank handle for the roller furling boom on a 1974 C 30 mk1? have one I can 
borrow (we're near Victoria BC)? or know of another tool that'll work in place 
of the original crank handle? Our boom's stuck at about 30 degrees from where 
it should be and I'd love to turn it back.
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: Fuel pump

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Mind was from 1 of the bolts that hold the pump fast to the bulkhead and a
wire from there to a bus bar ground
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:16 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am trying to diagnose fuel issue. I dont understand pump wiring. There
> appears to be only one wire to pump. Where is it grounded?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Peter W. via CnC-List]

FWIW, earlier this season, I replaced my TackTick wireless wind instrument
with Raymarine's latest offering.  You may recall Raymarine acquired
TackTick some years ago.  Except for the branding, The replacement is
identical to the original, which worked well for 13 seasons.  In fact, the
original unit still works fine for wind SPEED, but it is unreliable for
DIRECTION.  Probably, I could have returned it for testing and possible
repair, but I didn't want to deal with the cost of retrieval, downtime, and
re-install [which assumes the unit could be repaired].
I like the unit.  I don't like it when I can't get through to Raymarine.
Since my old Datamarine knotmeter is finally giving it up, I purchased a
suite of instruments - wind instrument + Tridata display, with wireless
cap.  could this work for you?

Pete W.

Siren Song
'91 C 30-2
Irvington, Va.


On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The
> main reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the
> EV-100 autopilot.
>
>
>
> I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC,
> though (I have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).
>
>
>
> I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a Navpod
> on the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the
> chartplotter and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).
>
>
>
> I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit.
>
>
>
> I have a few questions:
>
>
>
> - Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)? My
> first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as opposed
> to an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. But
> this is mainly to control the costs.
>
>
>
> - With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed
> the wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the detailed
> wind angle displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the
> wind display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not
> required AND I could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine
> with that.
>
>
>
> - Any strong recommendations against the wireless?
>
>
>
> - Any other suggestions or recommendations?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> 1994 C270 ”Legato”
>
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Fuel pump

[Doug via CnC-List]

Unlike a car, our boats being fiberglass, require a ground wire. If there is 
not a black wire (ground) attached some where on the pumps metal frame, add one 
and run it to a ground buss. Unfortunately a lot of manufacturers use a black 
lead wire from the pump for the 12v connection.  I installed an electric fan on 
my truck, and couldn't figure why it still overheated. Come to find out the 
blue wire was ground and the black was positive. I was running the fan 
backwards. Doug Mountjoy sv Rebecca Leah C & C Landfall 39Port Orchard Yacht 
Club Port Orchard, WA
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Stus-List Fuel pump I am trying to diagnose fuel issue. I dont understand pump 
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Stus-List Re: Fuel pump

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

Pump is grouned to motor by attachment bolts.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:16:05 AM
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Subject: Stus-List Fuel pump

I am trying to diagnose fuel issue. I dont understand pump wiring. There 
appears to be only one wire to pump. Where is it grounded?

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Stus-List Future Zoom Rendezvous

[Stu via CnC-List]

I have received several emails from our subscribers suggesting our rendezvous 
have a specific topic with ‘experts’ attending.  Some suggestions include:
- hydraulic systems
- steering
- ropes and lines
- hardware maintenance
- winterizing
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don’t know who the experts are, and what field they are experts in.

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If you know someone that is willing to help, send me their contact information.

If you have further suggestions, please do not hesitate to drop me a line or 
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Stus-List Re: C 41 thoughts?

[Matthew via CnC-List]

A friend of mine owns a 41 two slips down from me.  We went out sailing at the 
same time a couple weeks ago, and he walked right by (to leeward).  My 42 
Custom is rated 84 (with R/F), and I believe the 41 is rated about 10 seconds 
faster.  He was easily sailing that much faster with very little effort.

 

Beautiful boat.

 

From: Dave via CnC-List  
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 9:52 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Glenn Henderson ; syerd...@gmail.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 41 thoughts?

 

Thanks Glenn, the short cockpit seats/big wheel are one of the compromises on 
my 33 as well.   I had seen seat-fillers on other boats, along with the 
traveller relocation, though I do like traveller and especially mainsheet 
access from the helm   Need to work those things out.   Am glad to hear that 
the much-maligned IOR influence doesn’t seem to make the boat any less 
enjoyable than it does with my 33-2.   I agree completely on windward ability – 
here in the Toronto area we spend much of our  time sailing to windward in 
light air, and I would be really frustrated with a boat that didn’t perform 
well in those conditions.Reinforces the point about buying the right boat 
for the conditions.I am unlikely to be roaring downwind in huge seas under 
full spin any time soon, nor will I be rounding the horn in this boat.

 

It appears (circumstantially) that the ’81-84 boats were customs or semi 
customs, typically racing biased.   This aligns with the perception of the 
production boat (most evident post-’84) as a racing-oriented but cruisable 
model defined by the constraints of IOR in its twilight.   Seems as though the 
custom was somewhat repurposed to a production model under a new leader – the 
Wikipedia comment cited below.   This further jives with the my understanding 
of the evolution of the IOR  -that dual purpose boats were not as competitive 
as in the past, and that the racer/cruiser niche was less relevant under this 
rule.   The 8’ draft of many examples does not suggest cruising as a priority 
but the existence of the CB model and the relatively posh cabin of the 
production model speak to C remaining centred in this racer/cruiser niche.  
It interesting to read all of this in the context of the marketplace at the 
time.   Long and the short of this appears to be that its a good fun boat 
depending on how one intends to use it.

 

Going to see the boat tomorrow.

 

Biggest concern I can see is ease of shorthanded/singlehanded sailing – this 
was probably not in scope for the design. My baseline is a 33-2, which is 
manageable, due to its handy size.Second concern is to buy at the right 
price - resale appeal is not as broad as it could be.

 

Glenn – do you single-hand the 41, and do you (or anyone else) have any wisdom 
you could share on this?

 

Thanks as always, Dave

 

   

 

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows

 

From: Glenn Henderson via CnC-List  
Sent: September 22, 2021 12:17 AM
To: Stus-List  
Cc: Glenn Henderson  
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 41 thoughts?

 

I have a 1984 41 and I love it. The hull is not a tortured IOR shape. It is 
fairly clean. She moves through the water very cleanly. She sails well in light 
or heavy air. She is perfectly balanced. She will sail upwind with the wheel 
brake on and sail like on an auto pilot. The Dollar/Boatspeed ratio is very 
high. I love the interior. Granted, she doesn't have as much room as a modern 
41 foot boat but it is well laid out and proportioned well. I love the Nav 
Station/Office. I put plywood "fillers" in the cockpit to extend the seating 
for cruising. I wouldn't cruise without them. I cannot cruise long distances in 
a slow boat or one that cannot go upwind.The 41 suits my purposes just fine.

 

Glenn Henderson

 

 

On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:01 PM G Donald Wagner via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Dave 

 

I own a C 41 CB hull # 93, Der Baron. Bought her new in 1986, and have 
cruised/raced her ever since. We have enjoyed every minute aboard.

Many trophies, and many fine memories. My  crew and I , mostly very senior 
citizens, are not able to sail very much, so, I am considering the possibility 
of putting her up for sale.

 

If you have any specific questions about C 41s, I can answer most of them. 
They are great boats, easily sailed, and sail to the PHRF  Rating here on the 
Chesapeake. 

Feel free to call me, 443-994-5669, and We can talk about C 41s. I'm a 
dedicated C, Having previously owned a C 30 for 12 years prior to 
purchasing the 41.

 

Never had a Keel/ mast step issue on the 41 . I did experience it on the 30.

My boat is essentially like the standard brochure:

Tall 3 spreader rig

Yanmar 3GM35 HF

   Forward facing Nav Station

   aft quarter berth

Full spinnaker Gear with winch upgrades.

 

Yes, windows 

Stus-List Re: Fuel pump

[Dave S via CnC-List]

If there’s only one terminal on the pump itself then the metal chassis must be 
the ground. 

If you are referring to a schematic the ground wire may not be illustrated. 

Dave 

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> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:16 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am trying to diagnose fuel issue. I dont understand pump wiring. There 
> appears to be only one wire to pump. Where is it grounded?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Stus-List Fuel pump

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Some fuel pumps ground through the case. Is the pump mounted on the engine?
Joe

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Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:16 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Fuel pump

I am trying to diagnose fuel issue. I dont understand pump wiring. There 
appears to be only one wire to pump. Where is it grounded?

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Stus-List Fuel pump

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I am trying to diagnose fuel issue. I dont understand pump wiring. There 
appears to be only one wire to pump. Where is it grounded?

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Stus-List Re: C 41 thoughts?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I would have no issue single-handing a 41 as long as the boat had roller 
furling. The great thing about C is you can be way off pushing the boat to 
10/10ths and still be faster than everyone else.
You will want to rig up an asym chute, dealing with a spinnaker pole and gybing 
is a LOT of work for one person!


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C 35 MK I


From: Dave via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 9:52 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Glenn Henderson ; syerd...@gmail.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C 41 thoughts?

Thanks Glenn, the short cockpit seats/big wheel are one of the compromises on 
my 33 as well.   I had seen seat-fillers on other boats, along with the 
traveller relocation, though I do like traveller and especially mainsheet 
access from the helm   Need to work those things out.   Am glad to hear that 
the much-maligned IOR influence doesn’t seem to make the boat any less 
enjoyable than it does with my 33-2.   I agree completely on windward ability – 
here in the Toronto area we spend much of our  time sailing to windward in 
light air, and I would be really frustrated with a boat that didn’t perform 
well in those conditions.Reinforces the point about buying the right boat 
for the conditions.I am unlikely to be roaring downwind in huge seas under 
full spin any time soon, nor will I be rounding the horn in this boat.

It appears (circumstantially) that the ’81-84 boats were customs or semi 
customs, typically racing biased.   This aligns with the perception of the 
production boat (most evident post-’84) as a racing-oriented but cruisable 
model defined by the constraints of IOR in its twilight.   Seems as though the 
custom was somewhat repurposed to a production model under a new leader – the 
Wikipedia comment cited below.   This further jives with the my understanding 
of the evolution of the IOR  -that dual purpose boats were not as competitive 
as in the past, and that the racer/cruiser niche was less relevant under this 
rule.   The 8’ draft of many examples does not suggest cruising as a priority 
but the existence of the CB model and the relatively posh cabin of the 
production model speak to C remaining centred in this racer/cruiser niche.  
It interesting to read all of this in the context of the marketplace at the 
time.   Long and the short of this appears to be that its a good fun boat 
depending on how one intends to use it.

Going to see the boat tomorrow.

Biggest concern I can see is ease of shorthanded/singlehanded sailing – this 
was probably not in scope for the design. My baseline is a 33-2, which is 
manageable, due to its handy size.Second concern is to buy at the right 
price - resale appeal is not as broad as it could be.

Glenn – do you single-hand the 41, and do you (or anyone else) have any wisdom 
you could share on this?

Thanks as always, Dave

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Stus-List Re: C 41 thoughts?

[Dave via CnC-List]

Thanks Glenn, the short cockpit seats/big wheel are one of the compromises on my 33 as well.   I had seen seat-fillers on other boats, along with the traveller relocation, though I do like traveller and especially mainsheet access from the helm   Need to work those things out.   Am glad to hear that the much-maligned IOR influence doesn’t seem to make the boat any less enjoyable than it does with my 33-2.   I agree completely on windward ability – here in the Toronto area we spend much of our  time sailing to windward in light air, and I would be really frustrated with a boat that didn’t perform well in those conditions.    Reinforces the point about buying the right boat for the conditions.    I am unlikely to be roaring downwind in huge seas under full spin any time soon, nor will I be rounding the horn in this boat.     It appears (circumstantially) that the ’81-84 boats were customs or semi customs, typically racing biased.   This aligns with the perception of the production boat (most evident post-’84) as a racing-oriented but cruisable model defined by the constraints of IOR in its twilight.   Seems as though the custom was somewhat repurposed to a production model under a new leader – the Wikipedia comment cited below.   This further jives with the my understanding of the evolution of the IOR  -that dual purpose boats were not as competitive as in the past, and that the racer/cruiser niche was less relevant under this rule.   The 8’ draft of many examples does not suggest cruising as a priority but the existence of the CB model and the relatively posh cabin of the production model speak to C remaining centred in this racer/cruiser niche.  It interesting to read all of this in the context of the marketplace at the time.   Long and the short of this appears to be that its a good fun boat depending on how one intends to use it.     Going to see the boat tomorrow. Biggest concern I can see is ease of shorthanded/singlehanded sailing – this was probably not in scope for the design.     My baseline is a 33-2, which is manageable, due to its handy size.    Second concern is to buy at the right price - resale appeal is not as broad as it could be. Glenn – do you single-hand the 41, and do you (or anyone else) have any wisdom you could share on this?  Thanks as always, Dave   Sent from Mail for Windows From: Glenn Henderson via CnC-ListSent: September 22, 2021 12:17 AMTo: Stus-ListCc: Glenn HendersonSubject: Stus-List Re: C 41 thoughts? I have a 1984 41 and I love it. The hull is not a tortured IOR shape. It is fairly clean. She moves through the water very cleanly. She sails well in light or heavy air. She is perfectly balanced. She will sail upwind with the wheel brake on and sail like on an auto pilot. The Dollar/Boatspeed ratio is very high. I love the interior. Granted, she doesn't have as much room as a modern 41 foot boat but it is well laid out and proportioned well. I love the Nav Station/Office. I put plywood "fillers" in the cockpit to extend the seating for cruising. I wouldn't cruise without them. I cannot cruise long distances in a slow boat or one that cannot go upwind.The 41 suits my purposes just fine. Glenn Henderson  On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:01 PM G Donald Wagner via CnC-List  wrote:Dave  I own a C 41 CB hull # 93, Der Baron. Bought her new in 1986, and have cruised/raced her ever since. We have enjoyed every minute aboard.Many trophies, and many fine memories. My  crew and I , mostly very senior citizens, are not able to sail very much, so, I am considering the possibility of putting her up for sale. If you have any specific questions about C 41s, I can answer most of them. They are great boats, easily sailed, and sail to the PHRF  Rating here on the Chesapeake. Feel free to call me, 443-994-5669, and We can talk about C 41s. I'm a dedicated C, Having previously owned a C 30 for 12 years prior to purchasing the 41. Never had a Keel/ mast step issue on the 41 . I did experience it on the 30.My boat is essentially like the standard brochure:    Tall 3 spreader rig    Yanmar 3GM35 HF   Forward facing Nav Station   aft quarter berth    Full spinnaker Gear with winch upgrades. Yes, windows have been a problem, and I have had them replaced. You need to pay attention to them.I've up graded the track hardware, traveller hardware, the spinnaker pole (carbon fiber), the electronics, etc.The rig has been unstepped, inspected, stripped, and repainted with Awl-Grip.The hatches have been stripped, and powder coated prior to replacing the acrylic lenses Don WagnerC 41 CB Der Baron West River, MD   -Original Message-From: Dave via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: syerd...@gmail.comSent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 8:41 pmSubject: Stus-List C 41 thoughts?   Good evening all. Am looking to stretch out a bit, and much as I’ve enjoyed and invested in my ’85 33-2 Windstar, I’m exploring larger options.  Goal is