Stus-List Re: going all pex

[John Read via CnC-List]

I replaced my fresh water piping with PEX last winter.  Original fittings were 
cracking and piping had flavor to it. Fittings were all press on plastic by 
Watts Aqualock available through www.freshwatersystems.com 
 .  No special tools required,  Also replaced 
pump and galley faucet as old ones were 40 plus years old.  Biggest issues were:

1.  defining the correct fittings to fit in cramped spaces
2.  removing galley sink to gain access under – lots of boat yoga and 
inaccessible rusted fittings
3.  cutting piping to correct length as is not very flexible especially 
when colder

 

Overall came out very well and no leaks

 

John Read

Legacy III

1982 C 34

Noank, CT

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Stus-List Going all pex

[ssjohnson via CnC-List]

I replaced all of my freshwater plumbing with Whale Systems 15mm tubing.  I 
chose Whale because their literature stated that their system was meant to be 
installed in places that moved - boats, RV's and that their connectors were 
meant to have 90° curves right out of a connector.  The original Grey polybutal 
had developed cracks which let in air...keeping water from making it to the 
pump.The Whale system worked ok...I did have some issues sorting some 
connectors.   While replacing the hoses I took the opportunity to pull the 
water tanks, replace the fill and overflow hoses.  Also rebuilt the manifold.  
Project turned out great :-)$0.02Spencer Johnson ..former owner84 LF 38 #165  
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Stus-List Re: going all pex

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I used PEX to install a pH adjustment tank for our house water.  It was really 
easy.  Sharkbite fittings are really easy to attach even for copper to pex 
junctions and have so far worked flawlessly.  I haven’t soldered pipe since I 
discovered them.  Dave

David Knecht
Rear Commodore
Thames Yacht Club
New London, CT



> On Jan 17, 2024, at 12:21 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My daughter just dodged a bullet due to PEX plumbing.  The garage at her 
> house was converted by a previous owner to a studio Accessory Dwelling Unit 
> (ADU) that she rents out long term.  Whoever did the conversion plumbed the 
> unit with PEX.
> 
> This past weekend we had an Arctic air mass sag down into Denver.  The 
> temperature dropped 45℉ in 18 hours overnight Friday, bottoming out at -13℉ 
> Saturday morning at 6am.  The subzero lows and single-digit highs lasted 
> three more days.
> 
> The cold water supply line to the washing machine and hot water heater in the 
> ADU froze somewhere.  On Monday I put some space heaters in strategic 
> locations.  Yesterday afternoon the freeze thawed and hot water started 
> flowing again.  And, here’s the best part: no sign of leakage.  Since PEX can 
> expand a bit, it’s less prone to cracking when frozen than copper.  Otherwise 
> it would have been a bigger mess and a bigger job.
> 
> I’ve never used PEX because I don’t know how, and I don’t have the tools.  
> Whereas I’ve sweat-soldered plenty of copper.  But I’m starting to become a 
> believer.  My travel trailer has all PEX plumbing.
> 
> Not that the above anecdote is all that relevant to plumbing in a boat - if 
> things freeze in a boat, you’ve got potentially bigger problems, like cracked 
> castings.  But I thought I’d share anyway.
> 
> Cheers,
> Randy
> SV Grenadine
> C 30 K I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2024, at 9:39 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have been going nuts with fresh water leaks lately. It seems like the ½” 
>> hose has lost its flexibility over the decades, it is now rock hard. I can’t 
>> get it off any barb, I have to cut it off and the hose is so stiff I can’t 
>> get a leak-free connection anymore. I got out a spare role to replace it and 
>> that stuff too is about as flexible as iron pipe, I guess I saving it for 30 
>> years was not cost-effective ☹
>> I never though of ½’ water hose as an expense before, but the stuff is 
>> expensive now too! I think it is over $3/ft at West Marine and $1/foot off 
>> Amazon for Chinese chemical-smelling hose. Certainly no one plumbing a house 
>> is putting up with this, so I asked and the hardware store clerk turned me 
>> on to PEX tubing. It is cheap, like $0.50 a foot, and is strong enough to 
>> freeze and not burst. I got the special crimp tool and stainless crimp bands 
>> off Amazon for $25 or so and a 12-pack of PEX to NPT fittings. I think it is 
>> time for all the old hose to go.
>> Joe
>> Coquina
>>  
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> 
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[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

My daughter just dodged a bullet due to PEX plumbing.  The garage at her house 
was converted by a previous owner to a studio Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU) 
that she rents out long term.  Whoever did the conversion plumbed the unit with 
PEX.

This past weekend we had an Arctic air mass sag down into Denver.  The 
temperature dropped 45℉ in 18 hours overnight Friday, bottoming out at -13℉ 
Saturday morning at 6am.  The subzero lows and single-digit highs lasted three 
more days.

The cold water supply line to the washing machine and hot water heater in the 
ADU froze somewhere.  On Monday I put some space heaters in strategic 
locations.  Yesterday afternoon the freeze thawed and hot water started flowing 
again.  And, here’s the best part: no sign of leakage.  Since PEX can expand a 
bit, it’s less prone to cracking when frozen than copper.  Otherwise it would 
have been a bigger mess and a bigger job.

I’ve never used PEX because I don’t know how, and I don’t have the tools.  
Whereas I’ve sweat-soldered plenty of copper.  But I’m starting to become a 
believer.  My travel trailer has all PEX plumbing.

Not that the above anecdote is all that relevant to plumbing in a boat - if 
things freeze in a boat, you’ve got potentially bigger problems, like cracked 
castings.  But I thought I’d share anyway.

Cheers,
Randy
SV Grenadine
C 30 K I #79
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Jan 16, 2024, at 9:39 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been going nuts with fresh water leaks lately. It seems like the ½” 
> hose has lost its flexibility over the decades, it is now rock hard. I can’t 
> get it off any barb, I have to cut it off and the hose is so stiff I can’t 
> get a leak-free connection anymore. I got out a spare role to replace it and 
> that stuff too is about as flexible as iron pipe, I guess I saving it for 30 
> years was not cost-effective ☹
> I never though of ½’ water hose as an expense before, but the stuff is 
> expensive now too! I think it is over $3/ft at West Marine and $1/foot off 
> Amazon for Chinese chemical-smelling hose. Certainly no one plumbing a house 
> is putting up with this, so I asked and the hardware store clerk turned me on 
> to PEX tubing. It is cheap, like $0.50 a foot, and is strong enough to freeze 
> and not burst. I got the special crimp tool and stainless crimp bands off 
> Amazon for $25 or so and a 12-pack of PEX to NPT fittings. I think it is time 
> for all the old hose to go.
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
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Stus-List Re: C 66

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

At least the boat has a roll-up genoa now. As a single or short-handed cruiser, 
 I would never be taking either sail on or off, they would stay until I could 
hire 4 guys to come move them. Even then, without electric winches that boat 
would be a handful. The wheel location and submarine interior argue very hard 
against selling the boat to a cruising family. I don’t get how you are supposed 
to steer comfortably.

If I could afford it (hahaha), I would redo the cockpit layout and doghouse 
cabin totally with a taller cabin, big ports to let some light in, and move the 
wheel aft. 

I once worked on a 90+ foot sloop that the owner would single-hand, it was a 
really nice boat as long as the electric winches stayed working.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

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[Jeff Nelson via CnC-List]

Your car must be a 1950 chevy nomad to fit those sails in.  :-)

Cheers,
  Jeff Nelson
  Muir Caileag
  C 30 - 549
  Armdale Y.C.

On 2024-01-16 20:48, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List wrote:
Beautiful boat but she's priced pretty high.  I'd like to see her 
keel, probably a big shark fin.
10 foot draft, eight steps down the companionway ladder, the sails 
must be huge and the number of crew needed to take her sailing need to 
be pretty fit to handle the loads.  Probably need a team to carry one 
sail from the car to the boat.  The view from inside the boat is 
probably dark and only cabinetry.  You can't see the deck or the water 
from inside the boat.

Chuck S
On 01/16/2024 6:16 PM EST Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 wrote:

It been for sale for a long time

Joel Delamirande
*www.jdroofing.ca *

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 6:01 PM John McCrea via CnC-List 
 wrote:


An amazing boat!


https://www.berthoninternational.com/yacht-sales-brokerage/yachts-for-sale/c-c-66-classic-cruiser-racer-phantom/?fbclid=IwAR1irExXpYusoRn5xUBQHiDEmqzmyrERCsB4M3Tio6KGWC9tYToEP0AdsVg_aem_Ac9padFR6qIGBFwMyRwnXMEsNd-DB6fTpAkFP5eGOOlJIZ0SJjYDKZvigftdzZHKy9w

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