Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft
Chuck, many of the anchorages we visit will accommodate 6'3. While you may not be able to go all the way into Swan Creek, you can certainly enter and pick up a mooring at Swan Creek Marina. Corsica is great and Reed Creek next door is challenging whether you draw 5'3 or 6'3. We overnighted in Harris Creek last Sunday off the Choptank, but you'd need to sail around Blackwalnut Point since Knapp's Narrows has shoaled.Our depth sounder is still not working under power, despite trying Bill Bina's suggestion of turning on incandescent lights, so any mooring is a challenge for us! I guess I'm just saying don't totally exclude the Easter Shore. By the way, just got back yesterday from picking up a nice Laser 28 from Des Moines, IA with my son. He's taking it to Somers Point today to sail in Atlantic City Race Week. He should do well, but it means one less J24 to race. Chris Price Pradel 35 Mk I - Original Message - From: Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:20:09 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Gotta visit Corsica River one of these weekends. My crew seems more focused on anchoring out, swims, kayaking, and sightseeing close to Broad Creek. We will explore more as we get used to this new to us way of cruising. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:41:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Coquina was not purchased because we needed the shallow draft, she was purchased because the previous owners moved to Barnaget Bay and had only about 4 feet at their dock. They bought a centerboard CC, a Corvette IIRC. Coquina spent 12 years on the Magothy and then another 12 on the Severn before coming to the Shore. Your boat would be able to use our marina about 2/3s of the time this year. I think anything except right at low tide would work. Some years when the dredging is late we cannot get out at normal low tide. This year it has to be a NorthWester to be too shallow. This year I can use Kent Narrows again. Last year anything over 4 feet was very risky. OTOH 9 feet would be fine at my mooring, but that is a half hour drive upstream and then 12 miles back downstream to get back out. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:11 PM To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Shallows and deep draft I agree Joe. That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3 draft, most places 12 to 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs. It's good they make different flavors. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps Narrows, etc…. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [ mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net ] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com ; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off. The old Navy Luders Yawls drew 8ft. The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'. There are a few TP52s at Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:40:49 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? 7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be marginal at best. I knew someone
Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft
Chris I just went through the depth finder issue with my CC 39. After much time, effort money it was discovered that the alternator line noise filter had failed. Along with the alternator's diodes and rectifier bridge. The resulting noise effected all 4 depth finders as well as my radar with engine running. The failed blocking diodes were draining the batteries while under sail but the depth finders worked perfectly. A simple way to determine of the filter has failed in to run the engine with enough RPM's to excite the alternator into the charge mode the turn on a AM radio and listen for the buzzing sound. My was so bad that the buzzing completely drowned out all AM reception. Replaced the failed Pro Mariner ASF 70 with a new Newmar 150A and problem solved.. Good luck Jack Fitzgerald HONEY - US12788 Savannah, GA Best regards, Jack Fitzgerald, export manager Fitzgerald Forwarding Co. Inc. FMC license no:1966F 260 Oatland Island Road, Savannah, GA 31410 USA Tel. no: 912 898.1069 - Fax no: 912 898.9458 Email*: j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com www.fitzgeraldforwarding.com **PLEASE REMOVE honeys...@aol.com honeys...@aol.com FROM YOUR ADDRESS BOOK AND IMMEDIATELY ADD j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com* On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Chris Price via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Chuck, many of the anchorages we visit will accommodate 6'3. While you may not be able to go all the way into Swan Creek, you can certainly enter and pick up a mooring at Swan Creek Marina. Corsica is great and Reed Creek next door is challenging whether you draw 5'3 or 6'3. We overnighted in Harris Creek last Sunday off the Choptank, but you'd need to sail around Blackwalnut Point since Knapp's Narrows has shoaled.Our depth sounder is still not working under power, despite trying Bill Bina's suggestion of turning on incandescent lights, so any mooring is a challenge for us! I guess I'm just saying don't totally exclude the Easter Shore. By the way, just got back yesterday from picking up a nice Laser 28 from Des Moines, IA with my son. He's taking it to Somers Point today to sail in Atlantic City Race Week. He should do well, but it means one less J24 to race. Chris Price Pradel 35 Mk I -- *From: *Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Friday, July 11, 2014 6:20:09 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Gotta visit Corsica River one of these weekends. My crew seems more focused on anchoring out, swims, kayaking, and sightseeing close to Broad Creek. We will explore more as we get used to this new to us way of cruising. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- *From: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Friday, July 11, 2014 5:41:10 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Coquina was not purchased because we needed the shallow draft, she was purchased because the previous owners moved to Barnaget Bay and had only about 4 feet at their dock. They bought a centerboard CC, a Corvette IIRC. Coquina spent 12 years on the Magothy and then another 12 on the Severn before coming to the Shore. Your boat would be able to use our marina about 2/3s of the time this year. I think anything except right at low tide would work. Some years when the dredging is late we cannot get out at normal low tide. This year it has to be a NorthWester to be too shallow. This year I can use Kent Narrows again. Last year anything over 4 feet was very risky. OTOH 9 feet would be fine at my mooring, but that is a half hour drive upstream and then 12 miles back downstream to get back out. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I *From:* Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] *Sent:* Friday, July 11, 2014 4:11 PM *To:* j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list *Subject:* Re: Shallows and deep draft I agree Joe. That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3 draft, most places 12 to 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs. It's good they make different flavors. Chuck *Resolute* 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- *From: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove
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We have a Laser 28 in our harbour. She's gotta be the fastest well equipped cruising 28 foot boat ever! Good luck to your son. Brent D 27-5 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Chris Price via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Chuck, many of the anchorages we visit will accommodate 6'3. While you may not be able to go all the way into Swan Creek, you can certainly enter and pick up a mooring at Swan Creek Marina. Corsica is great and Reed Creek next door is challenging whether you draw 5'3 or 6'3. We overnighted in Harris Creek last Sunday off the Choptank, but you'd need to sail around Blackwalnut Point since Knapp's Narrows has shoaled.Our depth sounder is still not working under power, despite trying Bill Bina's suggestion of turning on incandescent lights, so any mooring is a challenge for us! I guess I'm just saying don't totally exclude the Easter Shore. By the way, just got back yesterday from picking up a nice Laser 28 from Des Moines, IA with my son. He's taking it to Somers Point today to sail in Atlantic City Race Week. He should do well, but it means one less J24 to race. Chris Price Pradel 35 Mk I From: Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:20:09 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Gotta visit Corsica River one of these weekends. My crew seems more focused on anchoring out, swims, kayaking, and sightseeing close to Broad Creek. We will explore more as we get used to this new to us way of cruising. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:41:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Coquina was not purchased because we needed the shallow draft, she was purchased because the previous owners moved to Barnaget Bay and had only about 4 feet at their dock. They bought a centerboard CC, a Corvette IIRC. Coquina spent 12 years on the Magothy and then another 12 on the Severn before coming to the Shore. Your boat would be able to use our marina about 2/3s of the time this year. I think anything except right at low tide would work. Some years when the dredging is late we cannot get out at normal low tide. This year it has to be a NorthWester to be too shallow. This year I can use Kent Narrows again. Last year anything over 4 feet was very risky. OTOH 9 feet would be fine at my mooring, but that is a half hour drive upstream and then 12 miles back downstream to get back out. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:11 PM To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Shallows and deep draft I agree Joe. That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3 draft, most places 12 to 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs. It's good they make different flavors. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps Narrows, etc…. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off. The old Navy Luders Yawls drew 8ft. The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'. There are a few TP52s at Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:40
Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft
Here you go - 38 wing keel cheap: http://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/4568089431.html On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: We have a Laser 28 in our harbour. She's gotta be the fastest well equipped cruising 28 foot boat ever! Good luck to your son. Brent D 27-5 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Chris Price via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Chuck, many of the anchorages we visit will accommodate 6'3. While you may not be able to go all the way into Swan Creek, you can certainly enter and pick up a mooring at Swan Creek Marina. Corsica is great and Reed Creek next door is challenging whether you draw 5'3 or 6'3. We overnighted in Harris Creek last Sunday off the Choptank, but you'd need to sail around Blackwalnut Point since Knapp's Narrows has shoaled.Our depth sounder is still not working under power, despite trying Bill Bina's suggestion of turning on incandescent lights, so any mooring is a challenge for us! I guess I'm just saying don't totally exclude the Easter Shore. By the way, just got back yesterday from picking up a nice Laser 28 from Des Moines, IA with my son. He's taking it to Somers Point today to sail in Atlantic City Race Week. He should do well, but it means one less J24 to race. Chris Price Pradel 35 Mk I -- *From: *Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Friday, July 11, 2014 6:20:09 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Gotta visit Corsica River one of these weekends. My crew seems more focused on anchoring out, swims, kayaking, and sightseeing close to Broad Creek. We will explore more as we get used to this new to us way of cruising. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- *From: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Friday, July 11, 2014 5:41:10 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Coquina was not purchased because we needed the shallow draft, she was purchased because the previous owners moved to Barnaget Bay and had only about 4 feet at their dock. They bought a centerboard CC, a Corvette IIRC. Coquina spent 12 years on the Magothy and then another 12 on the Severn before coming to the Shore. Your boat would be able to use our marina about 2/3s of the time this year. I think anything except right at low tide would work. Some years when the dredging is late we cannot get out at normal low tide. This year it has to be a NorthWester to be too shallow. This year I can use Kent Narrows again. Last year anything over 4 feet was very risky. OTOH 9 feet would be fine at my mooring, but that is a half hour drive upstream and then 12 miles back downstream to get back out. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I *From:* Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net cscheaf...@comcast.net] *Sent:* Friday, July 11, 2014 4:11 PM *To:* j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list *Subject:* Re: Shallows and deep draft I agree Joe. That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3 draft, most places 12 to 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs. It's good they make different flavors. Chuck *Resolute* 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- *From: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps Narrows, etc…. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I *From:* Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net cscheaf...@comcast.net] *Sent:* Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM *To:* j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list *Subject:* Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off. The old Navy Luders Yawls drew 8ft. The newer
Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft (Joel Aronson)
Pegathy lives on Rock Creek off the Patapsco, and the docks will easily handle 6' almost all the time, and 7' just a shade less often. But my wife Peggy and I sailed a Pearson 30 (5') for over 20 years. We went aground often enough that anything more then 5' was a negative when looking for a new boat. Thus, we now have an LF 38. Happy with it, too. Dan Sheer Pegathy, LF38 Rock Creek off the Patapsco ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Recently replaced my old lifelines with Amsteel and really like them. CS Johnson has a new style of fitting that is very nice, http://www.csjohnson.com/marinecatalog/p/00014.jpg . Did all the splices myself following the Samson recommendations and am very pleased with the result. James S/V Delaney 1976 CC 38 Oriental, NC - Original Message - From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List To: 'CNC boat owners, cnc-list' Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:11 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft You are welcome to use my mooring if I am not on it. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I j...@dellabarba.com From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: Joe Della Barba; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Gotta visit Corsica River one of these weekends. My crew seems more focused on anchoring out, swims, kayaking, and sightseeing close to Broad Creek. We will explore more as we get used to this new to us way of cruising. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:41:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Coquina was not purchased because we needed the shallow draft, she was purchased because the previous owners moved to Barnaget Bay and had only about 4 feet at their dock. They bought a centerboard CC, a Corvette IIRC. Coquina spent 12 years on the Magothy and then another 12 on the Severn before coming to the Shore. Your boat would be able to use our marina about 2/3s of the time this year. I think anything except right at low tide would work. Some years when the dredging is late we cannot get out at normal low tide. This year it has to be a NorthWester to be too shallow. This year I can use Kent Narrows again. Last year anything over 4 feet was very risky. OTOH 9 feet would be fine at my mooring, but that is a half hour drive upstream and then 12 miles back downstream to get back out. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:11 PM To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Shallows and deep draft I agree Joe. That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3 draft, most places 12 to 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs. It's good they make different flavors. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps Narrows, etc…. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off. The old Navy Luders Yawls drew 8ft. The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'. There are a few TP52s at Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:40:49 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? 7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be marginal at best. I knew someone with a deep draft 40 and they chain-sawed the bottom of the keel
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I agree Joe. That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3 draft, most places 12 to 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs. It's good they make different flavors. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps Narrows, etc…. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off. The old Navy Luders Yawls drew 8ft. The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'. There are a few TP52s at Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:40:49 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? 7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be marginal at best. I knew someone with a deep draft 40 and they chain-sawed the bottom of the keel off and bolted on a bulb from Mars Metal to bring the weight back to spec. At least back then the cost of doing this was well made up by the increased value of the boat for the Chesapeake and Mars would give you some credit if you sent them the lead you removed. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:30 AM To: Stevan Plavsa; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? Steve, As much as I love my 35/3, the 40 is a lot more boat for less money! I would not let another 6 inches of draft stop me unless I planned to cruise the Bahamas. Joel On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: There was another 40 in CT that was asking 29k recently. Same tall rig and deep draft. It's gone. There are lots of these. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: blockquote I sometimes pick up donated boats for the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum. Another volunteer and I just sailed an early '80's O'Day 30 across the Bay for the program. He was interested, because it has a centerboard and his mooring is in rather slim water. His thoughts were: Old gear, old upholstery, only two self tailing winches, not four.. old instruments, etc. the boat was attractive and will go for low dollars. He was counting up the dollars to make it perfect and decided he wanted a boat with fewer issues to deal with. I think these boats sit around for a long time because there are few folks like many on this list who are knowledgeable enough to look through the small faults and make an offer. My friend is skilled, but still wanted the 'perfect' boat with few issues for low money. Maybe he didn't want to have another project? On the first one, the hailing port is interesting, as the boat is now in Maryland. The engine is small and has a lot of hours (almost 2000?), no self tailing winches, old (really) Moor instruments (if it breaks, buy new). The other one looks better, is a lot more money for an old boat - and seven feet is a non-starter around here. Gary still happy with the 30-1 blockquote - Original Message - From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:55 PM Subject: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1974/C%26C-MK-II-2367894/Cambridge/MD/United-States This looks like
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Don't get too ambitious and go up to the Middle River area.. just came from there and you have to stay between the lines. Gary - Original Message - From: cnc-list--- via CnC-List To: j...@dellabarba.com ; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft I agree Joe. That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3 draft, most places 12 to 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs. It's good they make different flavors. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps Narrows, etc…. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off. The old Navy Luders Yawls drew 8ft. The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'. There are a few TP52s at Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:40:49 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? 7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be marginal at best. I knew someone with a deep draft 40 and they chain-sawed the bottom of the keel off and bolted on a bulb from Mars Metal to bring the weight back to spec. At least back then the cost of doing this was well made up by the increased value of the boat for the Chesapeake and Mars would give you some credit if you sent them the lead you removed. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:30 AM To: Stevan Plavsa; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? Steve, As much as I love my 35/3, the 40 is a lot more boat for less money! I would not let another 6 inches of draft stop me unless I planned to cruise the Bahamas. Joel On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: There was another 40 in CT that was asking 29k recently. Same tall rig and deep draft. It's gone. There are lots of these. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I sometimes pick up donated boats for the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum. Another volunteer and I just sailed an early '80's O'Day 30 across the Bay for the program. He was interested, because it has a centerboard and his mooring is in rather slim water. His thoughts were: Old gear, old upholstery, only two self tailing winches, not four.. old instruments, etc. the boat was attractive and will go for low dollars. He was counting up the dollars to make it perfect and decided he wanted a boat with fewer issues to deal with. I think these boats sit around for a long time because there are few folks like many on this list who are knowledgeable enough to look through the small faults and make an offer. My friend is skilled, but still wanted the 'perfect' boat with few issues for low money. Maybe he didn't want to have another project? On the first one, the hailing port is interesting, as the boat is now in Maryland. The engine is small and has a lot of hours (almost 2000?), no self tailing winches, old (really) Moor instruments
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Have to lookup Middle River. We explored Cat Tail Creek last weekend. GPS has done a great job keeping us from bumping the bottom. Ran thru many winding turns past several moorings and beautiful waterfront homes as far as a sidewheeler w a french name sitting on a lift. Turned round when I started seeing 9's on the depth sounder and the trees indicated a breeze. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:18:18 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Don't get too ambitious and go up to the Middle River area.. just came from there and you have to stay between the lines. Gary - Original Message - From: cnc-list--- via CnC-List To: j...@dellabarba.com ; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft I agree Joe. That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3 draft, most places 12 to 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs. It's good they make different flavors. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps Narrows, etc…. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off. The old Navy Luders Yawls drew 8ft. The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'. There are a few TP52s at Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:40:49 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? 7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be marginal at best. I knew someone with a deep draft 40 and they chain-sawed the bottom of the keel off and bolted on a bulb from Mars Metal to bring the weight back to spec. At least back then the cost of doing this was well made up by the increased value of the boat for the Chesapeake and Mars would give you some credit if you sent them the lead you removed. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:30 AM To: Stevan Plavsa; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? Steve, As much as I love my 35/3, the 40 is a lot more boat for less money! I would not let another 6 inches of draft stop me unless I planned to cruise the Bahamas. Joel On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: blockquote There was another 40 in CT that was asking 29k recently. Same tall rig and deep draft. It's gone. There are lots of these. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: blockquote I sometimes pick up donated boats for the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum. Another volunteer and I just sailed an early '80's O'Day 30 across the Bay for the program. He was interested, because it has a centerboard and his mooring is in rather slim water. His thoughts were: Old gear, old upholstery, only two self tailing winches, not four.. old instruments, etc. the boat was attractive and will go for low dollars. He was counting up the dollars to make it perfect and decided he wanted a boat with fewer issues to deal with. I think
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Coquina was not purchased because we needed the shallow draft, she was purchased because the previous owners moved to Barnaget Bay and had only about 4 feet at their dock. They bought a centerboard CC, a Corvette IIRC. Coquina spent 12 years on the Magothy and then another 12 on the Severn before coming to the Shore. Your boat would be able to use our marina about 2/3s of the time this year. I think anything except right at low tide would work. Some years when the dredging is late we cannot get out at normal low tide. This year it has to be a NorthWester to be too shallow. This year I can use Kent Narrows again. Last year anything over 4 feet was very risky. OTOH 9 feet would be fine at my mooring, but that is a half hour drive upstream and then 12 miles back downstream to get back out. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:11 PM To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Shallows and deep draft I agree Joe. That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3 draft, most places 12 to 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs. It's good they make different flavors. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps Narrows, etc…. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com ; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off. The old Navy Luders Yawls drew 8ft. The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'. There are a few TP52s at Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:40:49 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? 7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be marginal at best. I knew someone with a deep draft 40 and they chain-sawed the bottom of the keel off and bolted on a bulb from Mars Metal to bring the weight back to spec. At least back then the cost of doing this was well made up by the increased value of the boat for the Chesapeake and Mars would give you some credit if you sent them the lead you removed. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:30 AM To: Stevan Plavsa; cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? Steve, As much as I love my 35/3, the 40 is a lot more boat for less money! I would not let another 6 inches of draft stop me unless I planned to cruise the Bahamas. Joel On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: There was another 40 in CT that was asking 29k recently. Same tall rig and deep draft. It's gone. There are lots of these. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I sometimes pick up donated boats for the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum. Another volunteer and I just sailed an early '80's O'Day 30 across the Bay for the program. He was interested, because it has a centerboard and his mooring is in rather slim water. His thoughts were: Old gear,
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Gotta visit Corsica River one of these weekends. My crew seems more focused on anchoring out, swims, kayaking, and sightseeing close to Broad Creek. We will explore more as we get used to this new to us way of cruising. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:41:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Coquina was not purchased because we needed the shallow draft, she was purchased because the previous owners moved to Barnaget Bay and had only about 4 feet at their dock. They bought a centerboard CC, a Corvette IIRC. Coquina spent 12 years on the Magothy and then another 12 on the Severn before coming to the Shore. Your boat would be able to use our marina about 2/3s of the time this year. I think anything except right at low tide would work. Some years when the dredging is late we cannot get out at normal low tide. This year it has to be a NorthWester to be too shallow. This year I can use Kent Narrows again. Last year anything over 4 feet was very risky. OTOH 9 feet would be fine at my mooring, but that is a half hour drive upstream and then 12 miles back downstream to get back out. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:11 PM To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Shallows and deep draft I agree Joe. That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3 draft, most places 12 to 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs. It's good they make different flavors. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps Narrows, etc…. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [ mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net ] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com ; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off. The old Navy Luders Yawls drew 8ft. The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'. There are a few TP52s at Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:40:49 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? 7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be marginal at best. I knew someone with a deep draft 40 and they chain-sawed the bottom of the keel off and bolted on a bulb from Mars Metal to bring the weight back to spec. At least back then the cost of doing this was well made up by the increased value of the boat for the Chesapeake and Mars would give you some credit if you sent them the lead you removed. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:30 AM To: Stevan Plavsa; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? Steve, As much as I love my 35/3, the 40 is a lot more boat for less money! I would not let another 6 inches of draft stop me unless I planned to cruise the Bahamas. Joel On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: There was another 40 in CT that was asking 29k recently. Same tall rig and deep draft. It's gone. There are lots of these. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: blockquote I
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You are welcome to use my mooring if I am not on it. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I j...@dellabarba.com From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: Joe Della Barba; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Gotta visit Corsica River one of these weekends. My crew seems more focused on anchoring out, swims, kayaking, and sightseeing close to Broad Creek. We will explore more as we get used to this new to us way of cruising. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:41:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Coquina was not purchased because we needed the shallow draft, she was purchased because the previous owners moved to Barnaget Bay and had only about 4 feet at their dock. They bought a centerboard CC, a Corvette IIRC. Coquina spent 12 years on the Magothy and then another 12 on the Severn before coming to the Shore. Your boat would be able to use our marina about 2/3s of the time this year. I think anything except right at low tide would work. Some years when the dredging is late we cannot get out at normal low tide. This year it has to be a NorthWester to be too shallow. This year I can use Kent Narrows again. Last year anything over 4 feet was very risky. OTOH 9 feet would be fine at my mooring, but that is a half hour drive upstream and then 12 miles back downstream to get back out. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:11 PM To: j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com ; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Shallows and deep draft I agree Joe. That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3 draft, most places 12 to 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs. It's good they make different flavors. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps Narrows, etc…. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com Coquina CC 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com ; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off. The old Navy Luders Yawls drew 8ft. The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'. There are a few TP52s at Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:40:49 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? 7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be marginal at best. I knew someone with a deep draft 40 and they chain-sawed the bottom of the keel off and bolted on a bulb from Mars Metal to bring the weight back to spec. At least back then the cost of doing this was well made up by the increased value of the boat for the Chesapeake and Mars would give you some credit if you sent them the lead you removed. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com mailto:j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:30 AM To: Stevan Plavsa; cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats
