Recently replaced my old lifelines with Amsteel and really like them. CS Johnson has a new style of fitting that is very nice, http://www.csjohnson.com/marinecatalog/p/00014.jpg . Did all the splices myself following the Samson recommendations and am very pleased with the result. James S/V Delaney 1976 C&C 38 Oriental, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List To: 'CNC boat owners, cnc-list' Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:11 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft
You are welcome to use my mooring if I am not on it. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I j...@dellabarba.com From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: Joe Della Barba; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Gotta visit Corsica River one of these weekends. My crew seems more focused on anchoring out, swims, kayaking, and sightseeing close to Broad Creek. We will explore more as we get used to this new to us way of cruising. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:41:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Shallows and deep draft Coquina was not purchased because we needed the shallow draft, she was purchased because the previous owners moved to Barnaget Bay and had only about 4 feet at their dock. They bought a centerboard C&C, a Corvette IIRC. Coquina spent 12 years on the Magothy and then another 12 on the Severn before coming to the Shore. Your boat would be able to use our marina about 2/3s of the time this year. I think anything except right at low tide would work. Some years when the dredging is late we cannot get out at normal low tide. This year it has to be a NorthWester to be too shallow. This year I can use Kent Narrows again. Last year anything over 4 feet was very risky. OTOH 9 feet would be fine at my mooring, but that is a half hour drive upstream and then 12 miles back downstream to get back out. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:11 PM To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Shallows and deep draft I agree Joe. That's why Magothy is heaven for my me and our 6'3" draft, most places 12 to 18 ft and from my perspective, my boat is fine, your side of the bay is too shallow for us. Can't change that. I respect your choice but prefer mine for me and not trying to convince anyone to change theirs. It's good they make different flavors. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02:19 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps Narrows, etc…. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore. A keel a foot deeper can lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, when racing. Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing. A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off. The old Navy Luders Yawls drew 8ft. The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'. There are a few TP52s at Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft. Just sayin. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:40:49 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? 7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be marginal at best. I knew someone with a deep draft 40 and they chain-sawed the bottom of the keel off and bolted on a bulb from Mars Metal to bring the weight back to spec. At least back then the cost of doing this was well made up by the increased value of the boat for the Chesapeake and Mars would give you some credit if you sent them the lead you removed. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:30 AM To: Stevan Plavsa; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? Steve, As much as I love my 35/3, the 40 is a lot more boat for less money! I would not let another 6 inches of draft stop me unless I planned to cruise the Bahamas. Joel On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: There was another 40 in CT that was asking 29k recently. Same tall rig and deep draft. It's gone. There are lots of these. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I sometimes pick up donated boats for the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum. Another volunteer and I just sailed an early '80's O'Day 30 across the Bay for the program. He was interested, because it has a centerboard and his mooring is in rather slim water. His thoughts were: Old gear, old upholstery, only two self tailing winches, not four.. old instruments, etc..... the boat was attractive and will go for low dollars. He was counting up the dollars to make it perfect and decided he wanted a boat with fewer issues to deal with. I think these boats sit around for a long time because there are few folks like many on this list who are knowledgeable enough to look through the small faults and make an offer. My friend is skilled, but still wanted the 'perfect' boat with few issues for low money. Maybe he didn't want to have another project? On the first one, the hailing port is interesting, as the boat is now in Maryland. The engine is small and has a lot of hours (almost 2000?), no self tailing winches, old (really) Moor instruments (if it breaks, buy new). The other one looks better, is a lot more money for an old boat - and seven feet is a non-starter around here. Gary still happy with the 30-1 ----- Original Message ----- From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:55 PM Subject: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats? http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1974/C%26C-MK-II-2367894/Cambridge/MD/United-States This looks like a nice MK II and has been for sale for a long time. My guess is the sticking point is the engine. It has a Westebeke 4-60 engine, which is a 15 HP diesel derived from a 984 cc MG Midget engine. I had an MG Midget and all I have to say to that is Yikes! It may run fine, but AFAIK parts are nonexistent for it, so when it breaks it is dead forever. Also 15 HP is not exactly overpowered for a 35 foot boat. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979/C%26C-40-2647391/Branford/CT/United-States The boat sounds and looks decent in the ad. Only things I can see is apparently there is no canvas and the 7 foot draft. That boat would be trapped in my slip except at high tide. 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