Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-12 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
e reviewed ( that fly spinnaker ) > > > > Michael Brown > Windburn > C 30-1 > > > > > > > From: Randy Stafford <mailto:randal.staff...@icloud.com>> > To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Sent: 6/11/2019 3:13

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-12 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
2 sec/mile to 21 sec/mile. All classes were reviewed ( that fly spinnaker ) Michael Brown Windburn C 30-1 From: Randy Stafford To: cnc-list Sent: 6/11/2019 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating Thanks y’all for your interesting comments on this. I got my

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-11 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
F perfect? No. Not at all. However in theory it is based on > observed performance so is inexpensive to implement. It does assume that a > boat is in race condition including folding/feathering prop, decent sails, > spinnaker, etc … > > > > Happy Tuesday > > > >

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-11 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
boat is in > race condition including folding/feathering prop, decent sails, spinnaker, > etc … > > Happy Tuesday > > Mike Hoyt > Persistence > 1987 Frers 33 #16 > Halifax, NS > www.hoytsailing.com > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On B

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-11 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
gt; earlier note as “local politics.” In my view Edd is correct – corrupt local > politics is probably the biggest factor in rating anomalies. > > > > From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 4:42 PM > &

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-11 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Correct (as usual) about sport boats. It’s hard to beat a boat capable of doing sport-boat speeds in moderate to heavy air. From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 10:18 AM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating The imperfections of handicap

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-11 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
litics is > probably the biggest factor in rating anomalies. > > *From:* Edd Schillay via CnC-List > *Sent:* Monday, June 10, 2019 4:42 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Edd Schillay > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating > > Randy, > > As some

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-11 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Sent: Tue, Jun 11, 2019 9:56 am Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating What Edd refers to as “corruption” I referred to in my earlier note as “local politics.”  In my view Edd is correct – corrupt local politics is probably the biggest factor in rating anomalies. From

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-11 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Associates (401) 419-4650 From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 9:43 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating Different PHRF organizations in different parts of the country assign ratings

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-11 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
: Edd Schillay Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating Randy, As someone who was Commodore of a Western Long Island Sound yacht racing association for over 12 years and who has had access to ratings data from all over the USA, there is, simply, a one-word answer: Corruption First of all

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-11 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
: dwight veinot via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 8:56 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: dwight veinot Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating Most of our best racing fun happens whenever we see another mast on a boat with similar rating to Alianna. These “races” usually take less than

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-11 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Most of our best racing fun happens whenever we see another mast on a boat with similar rating to Alianna. These “races” usually take less than 15 min to decide who has the edge on any particular tack then we break away to have fun going wherever we want to go. That said we have done hundreds of

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-11 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
: Monday, June 10, 2019 5:26 PM To: cnc-list Cc: Randy Stafford Subject: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating Listers- Looking at US Sailing’s “History of US PHRF Affiliated Fleet Handicaps” (https://www.ussailing.org/competition/offshore/phrf/phrf-handicaps/), you can see that there is a range of ratings

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-10 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Other than the points Edd makes, some authorities might add/subtract a blanket adjustment to ALL boats in their fleet for prevailing wind conditions. No rationale for it that I can determine. Dennis C. On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 3:26 PM Randy Stafford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Re: Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-10 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Randy, As someone who was Commodore of a Western Long Island Sound yacht racing association for over 12 years and who has had access to ratings data from all over the USA, there is, simply, a one-word answer: Corruption First of all, the P in PHRF is Performance. So, if there is a a few C 30s

Stus-List 30 MK I PHRF Rating

2019-06-10 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Listers- Looking at US Sailing’s “History of US PHRF Affiliated Fleet Handicaps” (https://www.ussailing.org/competition/offshore/phrf/phrf-handicaps/ ), you can see that there is a range of ratings for the 30 MK I across