Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+

[svpegasus38]

Josh,My oil filter is 4 feet from the original position. After changing oil 
I don't want the engine to start until the oil is back to  the engine. With tje 
compression released, fuel & water off there is no real load on the starter, so 
the engine spins faster and less wesr on engine bearings. Hope i explained my 
thought process. Doug
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-- Original message--From: Josh Muckley via CnC-ListDate: Sun, Jan 29, 
2017 08:32To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Josh Muckley;Subject:Re: Stus-List 
Engine Stop Cable - C 37+
Doug, Please explain further what the function is  when changing the oil.
Thanks, Josh Muckley 

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017, 11:25 AM Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I have been using a compression release cable for years on my 3QM30 have not 
had any water in exhaust, any other issues. I do close my water intake before 
spinning the engine for anything other than starting. During starting I pull 
the cable spin the engine for about 5-7 seconds add fuel and push in the cable. 
Engine starts right up. When changing my oil, I close my water valve, pull 
cable, with fuel off I crank engine until I have positive oil pressure. I have 
a remote mounted oil filter (engine has a v-drive, access is horrible) so this 
works great. 
Doug Mountjoy PegasusLF38

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On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Josh, I like the idea of the solenoid.  As far as using the re-purposed cable 
for pre-lube, I’d be concerned about pumping raw water in to the exhaust 
manifold.  There would not be any exhaust manifold pressure while pumping raw 
water.  Maybe I’m paranoid? Ron From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 4:14 PM
To: C List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+ Hey Ron,  You might want to 
consider eliminating the pull to stop cable all together.  You can see the the 
"engine stop solenoid" which the background of my video.  The PO installed this 
and I love it.  I'm thinking of re-purposing the pull cable as a "pull to 
decompress".  It would then serve 2 purposes - pre start 
decompression/pre-lube, and emergency shutdown. https://youtu.be/mdHIt14l0R8 
Josh MuckleyS/V Sea Hawk1989 C 37+Solomons, MD  On Jan 26, 2017 10:47 AM, 
"Ron Ricci via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:The shaft on the knob 
end of the engine stop cable for my Yanmar 3HM35F has rusted so badly that the 
cable sticks.  The inner part of the original cable appeared to be solid 
stainless steel wire.  The replacement cable inner part is stranded and 
apparently not stainless steel.  It was easily attracted to a magnet.    I’m 
looking for an alternative all stainless replacement.  So far, I struck out 
with Teleflex/Morse.  Does anyone have any recommendations.Regards,RonRon 
RicciS/V PatriotC 37+Bristol, RI  
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Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Doug, Please explain further what the function is  when changing the oil.

Thanks,
Josh Muckley

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017, 11:25 AM Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have been using a compression release cable for years on my 3QM30 have
> not had any water in exhaust, any other issues. I do close my water intake
> before spinning the engine for anything other than starting. During
> starting I pull the cable spin the engine for about 5-7 seconds add fuel
> and push in the cable. Engine starts right up.
> When changing my oil, I close my water valve, pull cable, with fuel off I
> crank engine until I have positive oil pressure. I have a remote mounted
> oil filter (engine has a v-drive, access is horrible) so this works great.
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> Pegasus
> LF38
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> Josh,
>
>
>
> I like the idea of the solenoid.  As far as using the re-purposed cable
> for pre-lube, I’d be concerned about pumping raw water in to the exhaust
> manifold.  There would not be any exhaust manifold pressure while pumping
> raw water.  Maybe I’m paranoid?
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 4:14 PM
> *To:* C List
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+
>
>
>
> Hey Ron,
>
>
>
> You might want to consider eliminating the pull to stop cable all
> together.  You can see the the "engine stop solenoid" which the background
> of my video.  The PO installed this and I love it.  I'm thinking of
> re-purposing the pull cable as a "pull to decompress".  It would then serve
> 2 purposes - pre start decompression/pre-lube, and emergency shutdown.
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/mdHIt14l0R8
>
>
>
> Josh Muckley
>
> S/V Sea Hawk
>
> 1989 C 37+
>
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 26, 2017 10:47 AM, "Ron Ricci via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> The shaft on the knob end of the engine stop cable for my Yanmar 3HM35F
> has rusted so badly that the cable sticks.  The inner part of the original
> cable appeared to be solid stainless steel wire.  The replacement cable
> inner part is stranded and apparently not stainless steel.  It was easily
> attracted to a magnet.
>
>
>
> I’m looking for an alternative all stainless replacement.  So far, I
> struck out with Teleflex/Morse.  Does anyone have any recommendations.
>
> Regards,
>
> *Ron*
>
> Ron Ricci
>
> S/V Patriot
>
> C 37+
>
> Bristol, RI
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+

[Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List]

I have been using a compression release cable for years on my 3QM30 have not 
had any water in exhaust, any other issues. I do close my water intake before 
spinning the engine for anything other than starting. During starting I pull 
the cable spin the engine for about 5-7 seconds add fuel and push in the cable. 
Engine starts right up. 
When changing my oil, I close my water valve, pull cable, with fuel off I crank 
engine until I have positive oil pressure. I have a remote mounted oil filter 
(engine has a v-drive, access is horrible) so this works great. 

Doug Mountjoy 
Pegasus
LF38

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Josh,
>  
> I like the idea of the solenoid.  As far as using the re-purposed cable for 
> pre-lube, I’d be concerned about pumping raw water in to the exhaust 
> manifold.  There would not be any exhaust manifold pressure while pumping raw 
> water.  Maybe I’m paranoid?
>  
> Ron
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
> Muckley via CnC-List
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 4:14 PM
> To: C List
> Cc: Josh Muckley
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+
>  
> Hey Ron, 
>  
> You might want to consider eliminating the pull to stop cable all together.  
> You can see the the "engine stop solenoid" which the background of my video.  
> The PO installed this and I love it.  I'm thinking of re-purposing the pull 
> cable as a "pull to decompress".  It would then serve 2 purposes - pre start 
> decompression/pre-lube, and emergency shutdown.
>  
> https://youtu.be/mdHIt14l0R8
>  
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>  
>  
> On Jan 26, 2017 10:47 AM, "Ron Ricci via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> The shaft on the knob end of the engine stop cable for my Yanmar 3HM35F has 
> rusted so badly that the cable sticks.  The inner part of the original cable 
> appeared to be solid stainless steel wire.  The replacement cable inner part 
> is stranded and apparently not stainless steel.  It was easily attracted to a 
> magnet.   
>  
> I’m looking for an alternative all stainless replacement.  So far, I struck 
> out with Teleflex/Morse.  Does anyone have any recommendations.
> Regards,
> Ron
> Ron Ricci
> S/V Patriot
> C 37+
> Bristol, RI
> 
>  
>  
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Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+

[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

Josh,

 

I like the idea of the solenoid.  As far as using the re-purposed cable for 
pre-lube, I’d be concerned about pumping raw water in to the exhaust manifold.  
There would not be any exhaust manifold pressure while pumping raw water.  
Maybe I’m paranoid?

 

Ron

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley 
via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 4:14 PM
To: C List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+

 

Hey Ron, 

 

You might want to consider eliminating the pull to stop cable all together.  
You can see the the "engine stop solenoid" which the background of my video.  
The PO installed this and I love it.  I'm thinking of re-purposing the pull 
cable as a "pull to decompress".  It would then serve 2 purposes - pre start 
decompression/pre-lube, and emergency shutdown.

 

https://youtu.be/mdHIt14l0R8

 

Josh Muckley

S/V Sea Hawk

1989 C 37+

Solomons, MD

 

 

On Jan 26, 2017 10:47 AM, "Ron Ricci via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

The shaft on the knob end of the engine stop cable for my Yanmar 3HM35F has 
rusted so badly that the cable sticks.  The inner part of the original cable 
appeared to be solid stainless steel wire.  The replacement cable inner part is 
stranded and apparently not stainless steel.  It was easily attracted to a 
magnet.   

 

I’m looking for an alternative all stainless replacement.  So far, I struck out 
with Teleflex/Morse.  Does anyone have any recommendations.

Regards,

Ron

Ron Ricci

S/V Patriot

C 37+

Bristol, RI

 

 


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Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Hey Ron,

You might want to consider eliminating the pull to stop cable all
together.  You can see the the "engine stop solenoid" which the background
of my video.  The PO installed this and I love it.  I'm thinking of
re-purposing the pull cable as a "pull to decompress".  It would then serve
2 purposes - pre start decompression/pre-lube, and emergency shutdown.

https://youtu.be/mdHIt14l0R8

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Jan 26, 2017 10:47 AM, "Ron Ricci via CnC-List" 
wrote:

The shaft on the knob end of the engine stop cable for my Yanmar 3HM35F has
rusted so badly that the cable sticks.  The inner part of the original
cable appeared to be solid stainless steel wire.  The replacement cable
inner part is stranded and apparently not stainless steel.  It was easily
attracted to a magnet.



I’m looking for an alternative all stainless replacement.  So far, I struck
out with Teleflex/Morse.  Does anyone have any recommendations.

Regards,

*Ron*

Ron Ricci

S/V Patriot

C 37+

Bristol, RI





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Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+

[David Kaseler via CnC-List]

Moyer Marine stocks choke cables in two different lengths. One is quite long 
and can be cut to length.
Dave.
1975 C 33
SLY

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> On Jan 26, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> And it won't be any available length except for one in Lima, Peru, that they 
> will bring in for you for $895 US. 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
>> On 26 January 2017 at 15:24, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> It's just a "choke" cable.  You could get one from an auto parts store.  
>> I've had a bad experience with T.O.A.D. but they do have these engine stop 
>> cable available.
>> 
>> You might want to consider removing the original cause when you go to order 
>> the new one they will ask for the length.
>> 
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=yanmar+stop+cable=yanmar+stop+cable=chrome..69i57.12012j0j4=chrome-mobile=UTF-8
>> 
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2017 10:47 AM, "Ron Ricci via CnC-List"  
>>> wrote:
>>> The shaft on the knob end of the engine stop cable for my Yanmar 3HM35F has 
>>> rusted so badly that the cable sticks.  The inner part of the original 
>>> cable appeared to be solid stainless steel wire.  The replacement cable 
>>> inner part is stranded and apparently not stainless steel.  It was easily 
>>> attracted to a magnet.   
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I’m looking for an alternative all stainless replacement.  So far, I struck 
>>> out with Teleflex/Morse.  Does anyone have any recommendations.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Ron
>>> 
>>> Ron Ricci
>>> S/V Patriot
>>> 
>>> C 37+
>>> 
>>> Bristol, RI
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

And it won't be any available length except for one in Lima, Peru, that
they will bring in for you for $895 US.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 26 January 2017 at 15:24, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> It's just a "choke" cable.  You could get one from an auto parts store.
> I've had a bad experience with T.O.A.D. but they do have these engine stop
> cable available.
>
> You might want to consider removing the original cause when you go to
> order the new one they will ask for the length.
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=yanmar+stop+cable=yanmar+
> stop+cable=chrome..69i57.12012j0j4=chrome-mobile=UTF-8
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Jan 26, 2017 10:47 AM, "Ron Ricci via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> The shaft on the knob end of the engine stop cable for my Yanmar 3HM35F
>> has rusted so badly that the cable sticks.  The inner part of the original
>> cable appeared to be solid stainless steel wire.  The replacement cable
>> inner part is stranded and apparently not stainless steel.  It was easily
>> attracted to a magnet.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m looking for an alternative all stainless replacement.  So far, I
>> struck out with Teleflex/Morse.  Does anyone have any recommendations.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> *Ron*
>>
>> Ron Ricci
>>
>> S/V Patriot
>>
>> C 37+
>>
>> Bristol, RI
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

It's just a "choke" cable.  You could get one from an auto parts store.
I've had a bad experience with T.O.A.D. but they do have these engine stop
cable available.

You might want to consider removing the original cause when you go to order
the new one they will ask for the length.

https://www.google.com/search?q=yanmar+stop+cable=yanmar+stop+cable=chrome..69i57.12012j0j4=chrome-mobile=UTF-8

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Jan 26, 2017 10:47 AM, "Ron Ricci via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> The shaft on the knob end of the engine stop cable for my Yanmar 3HM35F
> has rusted so badly that the cable sticks.  The inner part of the original
> cable appeared to be solid stainless steel wire.  The replacement cable
> inner part is stranded and apparently not stainless steel.  It was easily
> attracted to a magnet.
>
>
>
> I’m looking for an alternative all stainless replacement.  So far, I
> struck out with Teleflex/Morse.  Does anyone have any recommendations.
>
> Regards,
>
> *Ron*
>
> Ron Ricci
>
> S/V Patriot
>
> C 37+
>
> Bristol, RI
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Teleflex says their standard cables have a stainless core.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 26 January 2017 at 08:03, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ron,
>
> Never heard of an all stainless cable, but I replaced mine four years ago
> with a new Teleflex that worked beautifully until the Universal engine
> died.
>
> My Beta 30 has electronic stopping, but I kept the Teleflex as a backup
> should the electronic fail.
>
> As you are probably aware, the cables (stop, throttle, shift) run under
> the fuel tank to the stern. Mine were wire-tied together, but not tight
> enough where you can't snake one through.
>
> Not a particularly difficult job to replace and I imagine the Teleflex
> have a long lifespan. May not be worth the time, effort and expense to find
> the "perfect" cable.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd (will be at a Las Vegas craps table tonight in hopes to score an
> "Enterprise-C")
>
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> On Jan 26, 2017, at 7:46 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> The shaft on the knob end of the engine stop cable for my Yanmar 3HM35F
> has rusted so badly that the cable sticks.  The inner part of the original
> cable appeared to be solid stainless steel wire.  The replacement cable
> inner part is stranded and apparently not stainless steel.  It was easily
> attracted to a magnet.
>
>
>
> I’m looking for an alternative all stainless replacement.  So far, I
> struck out with Teleflex/Morse.  Does anyone have any recommendations.
>
> Regards,
>
> *Ron*
>
> Ron Ricci
>
> S/V Patriot
>
> C 37+
>
> Bristol, RI
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Ron,

Never heard of an all stainless cable, but I replaced mine four years ago with 
a new Teleflex that worked beautifully until the Universal engine died. 

My Beta 30 has electronic stopping, but I kept the Teleflex as a backup should 
the electronic fail. 

As you are probably aware, the cables (stop, throttle, shift) run under the 
fuel tank to the stern. Mine were wire-tied together, but not tight enough 
where you can't snake one through. 

Not a particularly difficult job to replace and I imagine the Teleflex have a 
long lifespan. May not be worth the time, effort and expense to find the 
"perfect" cable. 


All the best,

Edd (will be at a Las Vegas craps table tonight in hopes to score an 
"Enterprise-C")

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On Jan 26, 2017, at 7:46 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List  
wrote:

The shaft on the knob end of the engine stop cable for my Yanmar 3HM35F has 
rusted so badly that the cable sticks.  The inner part of the original cable 
appeared to be solid stainless steel wire.  The replacement cable inner part is 
stranded and apparently not stainless steel.  It was easily attracted to a 
magnet.   
 
I’m looking for an alternative all stainless replacement.  So far, I struck out 
with Teleflex/Morse.  Does anyone have any recommendations.
Regards,
Ron
Ron Ricci
S/V Patriot
C 37+
Bristol, RI

 
 
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Stus-List Engine Stop Cable - C 37+

[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

The shaft on the knob end of the engine stop cable for my Yanmar 3HM35F has 
rusted so badly that the cable sticks.  The inner part of the original cable 
appeared to be solid stainless steel wire.  The replacement cable inner part is 
stranded and apparently not stainless steel.  It was easily attracted to a 
magnet.   

 

I’m looking for an alternative all stainless replacement.  So far, I struck out 
with Teleflex/Morse.  Does anyone have any recommendations.

Regards,

Ron

Ron Ricci

S/V Patriot

C 37+

Bristol, RI

 

 

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