Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Franklin Schenk via CnC-List]

Marek,
I would never use a thong for a fuel filter.  It makes women angry. :)
Frank 

On Sunday, September 10, 2017 3:47 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
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$5 more version, the Maxximum. Each lasted about 3 times. They must ave been 
the Monday morning production. The only good thong was that they all failed 
quickly enough to get the refund.
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search Merek
I'm trying to remember there I bought my last one.  I think it was either 
Canadian Tire or Princess Auto.  I bought the cheap ones and they don't last 
long. Although the one I bought I consider it cheap as it was in the 20-25 
dollar range.
I think this is the one I've had for a few years.  
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-drill-pump-kit-0543802p.html#srp
MikePERSUASION
C 37 K/CBLong Sault
On Sep 9, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
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Maybe I am unlucky, but I never had any of these pumps last longer than a 
couple-three times.   Marek   Sent from Mail for Windows 10   From: 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search   Denis   I use a cheap 
transfer pump operated by a drill.  Pumps 5 gals in a couple of minutes.  No 
more trying to for fuel through a funnel and no spills.  Can pump a jerry can 
dry, less than a tbsp.  Now you purist hush.  I'm pumping diesel.  Been doing 
it for 4 years.   MikePERSUASIONC 37 K/CBLong Sault   > On Sep 8, 2017, at 
12:06 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:   
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Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I had one like that and also the $5 more version, the Maxximum. Each lasted 
about 3 times. They must ave been the Monday morning production. The only good 
thong was that they all failed quickly enough to get the refund.

Marek

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

Merek

I'm trying to remember there I bought my last one.  I think it was either 
Canadian Tire or Princess Auto.  I bought the cheap ones and they don't last 
long. Although the one I bought I consider it cheap as it was in the 20-25 
dollar range.

I think this is the one I've had for a few years.  
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-drill-pump-kit-0543802p.html#srp

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

On Sep 9, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
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Maybe I am unlucky, but I never had any of these pumps last longer than a 
couple-three times.

Marek

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

Denis

I use a cheap transfer pump operated by a drill.  Pumps 5 gals in a couple of 
minutes.  No more trying to for fuel through a funnel and no spills.  Can pump 
a jerry can dry, less than a tbsp.  Now you purist hush.  I'm pumping diesel.  
Been doing it for 4 years.

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

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Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Merek

I'm trying to remember there I bought my last one.  I think it was either 
Canadian Tire or Princess Auto.  I bought the cheap ones and they don't last 
long. Although the one I bought I consider it cheap as it was in the 20-25 
dollar range.

I think this is the one I've had for a few years.  
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-drill-pump-kit-0543802p.html#srp

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Sep 9, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Maybe I am unlucky, but I never had any of these pumps last longer than a 
> couple-three times.
>  
> Marek
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Persuasion37 via CnC-List
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> Cc: Persuasion37
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search
>  
> Denis
>  
> I use a cheap transfer pump operated by a drill.  Pumps 5 gals in a couple of 
> minutes.  No more trying to for fuel through a funnel and no spills.  Can 
> pump a jerry can dry, less than a tbsp.  Now you purist hush.  I'm pumping 
> diesel.  Been doing it for 4 years.
>  
> Mike
> PERSUASION
> C 37 K/CB
> Long Sault
>  
> > On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> > wrote:
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Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

You have to remember that the modern filter funnels don't just allow water
to "drop out".  The filters actually have a hydrophobic coating (green on
mine) which prevents water from passing based on water's surface tension.
 2 different demonstrations can show this.

The first is where water is used to fill the funnel halfway up the filter -
no water exits.  Then diesel is added to the funnel - diesel flows freely
until fuel can be seen on the surface of the water.

The second is where perfectly measured equal portions (about a pint) of
water and diesel are mixed by shaking in a small container.  This mixture
is the added to the funnel and low and behold nothing but pure diesel fuel
exits the funnel, again leaving behind water with no detectable diesel in
the funnel.

It's actually a pretty cool demonstration which I've seen at the boat
shows.  You might be able to find a similar demo on YouTube.  Something
that the instructions mention is testing the filters from time to time by
pouring water in to ensure that it doesn't leak out.  The instructions also
suggest that you can do that "test" prior to each use and then leave that
water in while filling with diesel.  Once done adding diesel, you'll be
left with only water - that which you added plus any that was removed from
the fuel.

Since the filter has the hydrophobic coating you need to be careful not to
damage the coating while cleaning/drying the funnel.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Sep 8, 2017 12:07 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Touche' came with a decent fuel funnel with fine screen in the bottom.  I
> think it's an old EZ-John funnel.  Used it for years but it is very slow.
> Not fun holding a 5 gallon diesel can for 10 minutes while the fuel drains
> so slow.
>
> I bought one of the Mr. Funnel F3 fuel funnels.  While it passes the
> diesel much quicker, you're left with a couple ounces of diesel in the
> funnel.  The design is such that any water would be left in this small
> residual.
>
> It's a pain to deal with that couple ounces left in the funnel's sump.  I
> usually carefully remove the funnel, put the old funnel in the fill fitting
> and pour it in there.  Now I'm left with two wet funnels.
>
> I've searched the Internet for a fuel filter funnel that doesn't have the
> water trapping sump design.  I see Mr. Funnel, Racor and others but they
> all have the water trapping sump.
>
> I'm about to mix up a batch of epoxy and fill the sump up to the bottom of
> the filter screen but that seems like an aggressive solution.  I have a
> Racor 500 to trap water so I'm not overly concerned about removing water.
>
> Any slick ideas out there?
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Maybe I am unlucky, but I never had any of these pumps last longer than a 
couple-three times.

Marek

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

Denis

I use a cheap transfer pump operated by a drill.  Pumps 5 gals in a couple of 
minutes.  No more trying to for fuel through a funnel and no spills.  Can pump 
a jerry can dry, less than a tbsp.  Now you purist hush.  I'm pumping diesel.  
Been doing it for 4 years.

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:

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Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Denis

I use a cheap transfer pump operated by a drill.  Pumps 5 gals in a couple of 
minutes.  No more trying to for fuel through a funnel and no spills.  Can pump 
a jerry can dry, less than a tbsp.  Now you purist hush.  I'm pumping diesel.  
Been doing it for 4 years.

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Touche' came with a decent fuel funnel with fine screen in the bottom.  I 
> think it's an old EZ-John funnel.  Used it for years but it is very slow.  
> Not fun holding a 5 gallon diesel can for 10 minutes while the fuel drains so 
> slow.
> 
> I bought one of the Mr. Funnel F3 fuel funnels.  While it passes the diesel 
> much quicker, you're left with a couple ounces of diesel in the funnel.  The 
> design is such that any water would be left in this small residual.
> 
> It's a pain to deal with that couple ounces left in the funnel's sump.  I 
> usually carefully remove the funnel, put the old funnel in the fill fitting 
> and pour it in there.  Now I'm left with two wet funnels.
> 
> I've searched the Internet for a fuel filter funnel that doesn't have the 
> water trapping sump design.  I see Mr. Funnel, Racor and others but they all 
> have the water trapping sump.
> 
> I'm about to mix up a batch of epoxy and fill the sump up to the bottom of 
> the filter screen but that seems like an aggressive solution.  I have a Racor 
> 500 to trap water so I'm not overly concerned about removing water.
> 
> Any slick ideas out there?
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

Marek,
After fueling, I hold hose vertical so fuel drains.  After waiting about 15
seconds, I coil hose about 8" diameter, wrap in absorbent towel and store
in Ziploc bag.
Ron

On Sep 9, 2017 7:35 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Ron,
> What do you do with the wet fuel hose after the transfer. There is always
> some diesel left in it.
>
> Marek
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Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Ron,
What do you do with the wet fuel hose after the transfer. There is always some 
diesel left in it.

Marek
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Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

The epoxy idea is what I have always seen people do.
Joe
Coquina



I'm about to mix up a batch of epoxy and fill the sump up to the bottom of the 
filter screen but that seems like an aggressive solution.  I have a Racor 500 
to trap water so I'm not overly concerned about removing water.

Any slick ideas out there?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Touche' came with a decent fuel funnel with fine screen in the bottom.  I
think it's an old EZ-John funnel.  Used it for years but it is very slow.
Not fun holding a 5 gallon diesel can for 10 minutes while the fuel drains
so slow.

I bought one of the Mr. Funnel F3 fuel funnels.  While it passes the diesel
much quicker, you're left with a couple ounces of diesel in the funnel.
The design is such that any water would be left in this small residual.

It's a pain to deal with that couple ounces left in the funnel's sump.  I
usually carefully remove the funnel, put the old funnel in the fill fitting
and pour it in there.  Now I'm left with two wet funnels.

I've searched the Internet for a fuel filter funnel that doesn't have the
water trapping sump design.  I see Mr. Funnel, Racor and others but they
all have the water trapping sump.

I'm about to mix up a batch of epoxy and fill the sump up to the bottom of
the filter screen but that seems like an aggressive solution.  I have a
Racor 500 to trap water so I'm not overly concerned about removing water.

Any slick ideas out there?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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