Stus-List list problems
Agree, the list email problem seems to be resolved. Amazing. Chuck Custom laser engraved cutting boards are available at the C Photo Album site.
Stus-List List problems
I guess I was wrong. The problems started when I put the cutting board footer in the emails. Now we have identified the problem -- it is not with the list but specifically with how some email programs and providers handle the emails. What is disturbing is that one company decides what is best for you and all the other companies do not see a problem. Now as an experiment, I am adding a link to the body of this message. Let's see how it goes through -- http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/cutting_boards Stu There are no links in this footer.
Stus-List list problems
Don't know why it's happening, or how to fix it, but it's happening to a whole lotta members, it started after Stu's cutting board offer went out and I don't have this problem with any other emails, just those from the CNC list and not all of those. I'm using Comcast.net email on a HP laptop, running Firefox. Chuck S There are no links in this footer.
Stus-List List problems
I have removed the footer with an external link. There is still a footer - just no link. Instead of trying to identify the email servers, let's identify the mail programs being used - both sending and receiving. Stu using Thunderbird mail. There are no links in this footer.
Stus-List List problems
Please be sure to trim your messages when replying to an email.We have encountered some new problems with the list and are working on it. Hopefully it won’t take long. Stay safe – StuOctober is time to show your appreciation with a small contribution to this list to help offset the costs. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Stus-List List Problems
Yesterday, approximately 125 members received notices saying their subscriptions had been cancelled due to excessive or fatal bounces. Unfortunately, I was in the hospital having cataract surgery and trying to read the messages and reply to them was very difficult – I was blind in one eye and could not see out the other one. At least today, one eye is working. Yesterday’s problems were not with the list but with the ISP’s involved. It is mainly a Yahoo problem (right now) but includes: comcast, hotmail, AOL, Ameritech, Sympatico, Rogers, Bell, Reinardy, Live, Wbryant, Outlook, MSN, SBCGlobal, Acesdirect, Netscape, SNet, ATT and probably a bunch of others. I am in the process of resetting everyone’s subscriptions so that they receive mail and am working with our List Hosting Company to overcome these problems. In order to get around Yahoo’s problem, you will notice the “From” box on your emails, says “via CnC-List” instead of the sender’s name. SO PLEASE, SIGN YOUR EMAILS If you find you get bumped again, it is suggested that you get a freebie email address from a company that is not listed above and use it strictly for emails from the list. I will try to keep on top of this problem and advise you accordingly. Stu___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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I don't think there's an adequate way to tell you how grateful we are for your continued efforts on behalf of this - the CC community you built - especially given such personal hardships, IT hassles, and the fact that you recently retired from being an owner yourself. I for one could not keep her sailing safely and well without you and the combined expertise of the many people you have brought together here. Nate Flesness Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 on the cold hard at Siskiwit Bay Marina (where the snow is finally ending) Lake Superior On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.comwrote: Yesterday, approximately 125 members received notices saying their subscriptions had been cancelled due to excessive or fatal bounces. Unfortunately, I was in the hospital having cataract surgery and trying to read the messages and reply to them was very difficult – I was blind in one eye and could not see out the other one. At least today, one eye is working. Yesterday’s problems were not with the list but with the ISP’s involved. It is mainly a Yahoo problem (right now) but includes: comcast, hotmail, AOL, Ameritech, Sympatico, Rogers, Bell, Reinardy, Live, Wbryant, Outlook, MSN, SBCGlobal, Acesdirect, Netscape, SNet, ATT and probably a bunch of others. I am in the process of resetting everyone’s subscriptions so that they receive mail and am working with our List Hosting Company to overcome these problems. In order to get around Yahoo’s problem, you will notice the “From” box on your emails, says “via CnC-List” instead of the sender’s name. SO PLEASE, SIGN YOUR EMAILS If you find you get bumped again, it is suggested that you get a freebie email address from a company that is not listed above and use it strictly for emails from the list. I will try to keep on top of this problem and advise you accordingly. Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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What if we were I subscribed and started getting w-mails again? Can you please unsubscribe us? Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Yesterday, approximately 125 members received notices saying their subscriptions had been cancelled due to excessive or fatal bounces. Unfortunately, I was in the hospital having cataract surgery and trying to read the messages and reply to them was very difficult – I was blind in one eye and could not see out the other one. At least today, one eye is working. Yesterday’s problems were not with the list but with the ISP’s involved. It is mainly a Yahoo problem (right now) but includes: comcast, hotmail, AOL, Ameritech, Sympatico, Rogers, Bell, Reinardy, Live, Wbryant, Outlook, MSN, SBCGlobal, Acesdirect, Netscape, SNet, ATT and probably a bunch of others. I am in the process of resetting everyone’s subscriptions so that they receive mail and am working with our List Hosting Company to overcome these problems. In order to get around Yahoo’s problem, you will notice the “From” box on your emails, says “via CnC-List” instead of the sender’s name. SO PLEASE, SIGN YOUR EMAILS If you find you get bumped again, it is suggested that you get a freebie email address from a company that is not listed above and use it strictly for emails from the list. I will try to keep on top of this problem and advise you accordingly. Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Stu, I'm good now. Thanks for all you do for us. From: Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC Email List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2014 3:53:03 PM Subject: Stus-List List Problems Yesterday, approximately 125 members received notices saying their subscriptions had been cancelled due to excessive or fatal bounces. Unfortunately, I was in the hospital having cataract surgery and trying to read the messages and reply to them was very difficult – I was blind in one eye and could not see out the other one. At least today, one eye is working. Yesterday’s problems were not with the list but with the ISP’s involved. It is mainly a Yahoo problem (right now) but includes: comcast, hotmail, AOL, Ameritech, Sympatico, Rogers, Bell, Reinardy, Live, Wbryant, Outlook, MSN, SBCGlobal, Acesdirect, Netscape, SNet, ATT and probably a bunch of others. I am in the process of resetting everyone’s subscriptions so that they receive mail and am working with our List Hosting Company to overcome these problems. In order to get around Yahoo’s problem, you will notice the “From” box on your emails, says “via CnC-List” instead of the sender’s name. SO PLEASE, SIGN YOUR EMAILS If you find you get bumped again, it is suggested that you get a freebie email address from a company that is not listed above and use it strictly for emails from the list. I will try to keep on top of this problem and advise you accordingly. Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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I have had to deal with Yahoo tech support a few times. Each time it was a frustrating experience in that I am fairly sure the support people did not spend more than a couple of seconds scanning the request before firing back a pre-written response that had little to do with the issue. The change you are seeing is a method of reducing SPAM and such called DMARC (Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting and Conformance) that likely will become fairly common. It is unfortunate that Yahoo is fully aware that implementing DMARC will cause huge problems for most mail lists. The only solution that is being offered is to block emails from people with a Yahoo address, a pretty draconian workaround. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 19:49:57 -0300 From: Ken Heaton kenhea...@gmail.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List List Problems Message-ID: CAAbfP6SQRmySU55=vdzy37qvlbpc0k+rbtwhe1r6cgsk8d2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have been seeing some cnc-list emails in my Gmail spam box lately, always from Yahoo accounts. When I checked them they always looked like legitimate posts to the list. I was wondering what was going on. Ken H. On 10 April 2014 19:43, Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com wrote: I recently received an email from our hosting company that indicates: Yahoo initiated a terrible policy change to their mail servers recently that impacts every single mailing list software in use. If any Yahoo.com user posts to your list, they will cause those list members are using Hotmail, Gmail, Bellsouth, etc to bounce the poster's message which can in turn cause the list to remove these members from the list for excessive bounces. The problem is with Yahoo. We recommend the following: 1. Unsubscribe those list members that Yahoo accounts. 2. Prevent any Yahoo.com subscriber from posting to your list until they subscribe with another non-Yahoo email address. There is no telling when Yahoo will fix this or if they ever will. Again this issue only affect where *Yahoo.com* users are allowed to post to the list. So the bottom line is - if you are using a Yahoo.com email account, may soon be dropped from our list. I suggest you get another email account and subscribe under that address. I do not have any recommendations at this time as to which emails are not affected. If I receive further info, I will pass it along. Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Bummer. A friend of mine (and of my family) is actually the guy who invented Yahoo email, so I've been there for nearly 20 years. The company was originally called RocketMail.com, and he sold it to Yahoo and now lives on his own private island and is totally diversified and not involved with operations. I use them for web hosting and email, but do pay an extremely low fee for my own domain name, which seems to avoid a lot of problems. Hotmail is owned by Microsoft. BellSouth is, well, the phone company. Gmail seems to be a preferred 'free' email source these days, but I'm sure in a few years they'll get stuck in the mud. Wal Stu wrote: Yahoo initiated a terrible policy change to their mail servers recently that impacts every single mailing list software in use. If any Yahoo.com user posts to your list, they will cause those list members are using Hotmail, Gmail, Bellsouth, etc to bounce the poster's message which can in turn cause the list to remove these members from the list for excessive bounces. The problem is with Yahoo. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List List Problems (now what email to use)
take it for whatever it is worth... Hotmail (actually Outlook; only the domain name was retained from the old MS free email system) might be the easiest to work with. in the past it was known for providing an easy access to all kinds of spammers, so it has a bad reputation. But it has been reworked quite a bit and offers decent service and quite good web interface. If you are, by any chance an Internet Explorer user, it has really good integration. You can easily define filters, so e.g. all emails from CC list can be put into a separate folder. Gmail - very popular lately; quite transparent (they don't filter much, so the chances are that they won't mistakenly filter some important message). I don't like their web client (but this is very personal). It does not integrate as well as Hotmail with e.g. Windows Live Mail, especially, if you normally access email from multiple computers (this includes tablets and phones). Hotmail/Outlook synchronises all folders perfectly; Gmail requires some careful planning and configuration. Your ISP e-mail - usually the worse of them all (e.g. many ISPs include spam filters that have many false positives and filter out messages that are quite legitimate (e.g. my provider filters out CRA (Canadian equivalent of IRS) e-mails; this is not good, for example, if the email was a reminder of a filing deadline); other examples include filtering out emails for change of password requests). the web client and integration with your desktop client vary by provider. Having said all this, an email account from your provider might be the easiest fix for the Yahoo issues. These emails are quite disposable, so you can set up an account and if it is no longer required, drop it. Marek -Original Message- From: Wally Bryant Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 2:26 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List List Problems Bummer. A friend of mine (and of my family) is actually the guy who invented Yahoo email, so I've been there for nearly 20 years. The company was originally called RocketMail.com, and he sold it to Yahoo and now lives on his own private island and is totally diversified and not involved with operations. I use them for web hosting and email, but do pay an extremely low fee for my own domain name, which seems to avoid a lot of problems. Hotmail is owned by Microsoft. BellSouth is, well, the phone company. Gmail seems to be a preferred 'free' email source these days, but I'm sure in a few years they'll get stuck in the mud. Wal Stu wrote: Yahoo initiated a terrible policy change to their mail servers recently that impacts every single mailing list software in use. If any Yahoo.com user posts to your list, they will cause those list members are using Hotmail, Gmail, Bellsouth, etc to bounce the poster's message which can in turn cause the list to remove these members from the list for excessive bounces. The problem is with Yahoo. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List List Problems (now what email to use)
I don't have any problem accessing or posting on the list with Yahoo, but my Yahoo goes through google first. For how long, I can only guess as I'm still on XP. From: Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.com To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 3:04:48 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List List Problems (now what email to use) take it for whatever it is worth... Hotmail (actually Outlook; only the domain name was retained from the old MS free email system) might be the easiest to work with. in the past it was known for providing an easy access to all kinds of spammers, so it has a bad reputation. But it has been reworked quite a bit and offers decent service and quite good web interface. If you are, by any chance an Internet Explorer user, it has really good integration. You can easily define filters, so e.g. all emails from CC list can be put into a separate folder. Gmail - very popular lately; quite transparent (they don't filter much, so the chances are that they won't mistakenly filter some important message). I don't like their web client (but this is very personal). It does not integrate as well as Hotmail with e.g. Windows Live Mail, especially, if you normally access email from multiple computers (this includes tablets and phones). Hotmail/Outlook synchronises all folders perfectly; Gmail requires some careful planning and configuration. Your ISP e-mail - usually the worse of them all (e.g. many ISPs include spam filters that have many false positives and filter out messages that are quite legitimate (e.g. my provider filters out CRA (Canadian equivalent of IRS) e-mails; this is not good, for example, if the email was a reminder of a filing deadline); other examples include filtering out emails for change of password requests). the web client and integration with your desktop client vary by provider. Having said all this, an email account from your provider might be the easiest fix for the Yahoo issues. These emails are quite disposable, so you can set up an account and if it is no longer required, drop it. Marek -Original Message- From: Wally Bryant Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 2:26 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List List Problems Bummer. A friend of mine (and of my family) is actually the guy who invented Yahoo email, so I've been there for nearly 20 years. The company was originally called RocketMail.com, and he sold it to Yahoo and now lives on his own private island and is totally diversified and not involved with operations. I use them for web hosting and email, but do pay an extremely low fee for my own domain name, which seems to avoid a lot of problems. Hotmail is owned by Microsoft. BellSouth is, well, the phone company. Gmail seems to be a preferred 'free' email source these days, but I'm sure in a few years they'll get stuck in the mud. Wal Stu wrote: Yahoo initiated a terrible policy change to their mail servers recently that impacts every single mailing list software in use. If any Yahoo.com user posts to your list, they will cause those list members are using Hotmail, Gmail, Bellsouth, etc to bounce the poster's message which can in turn cause the list to remove these members from the list for excessive bounces. The problem is with Yahoo. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List List Problems
I recently received an email from our hosting company that indicates: Yahoo initiated a terrible policy change to their mail servers recently that impacts every single mailing list software in use. If any Yahoo.com user posts to your list, they will cause those list members are using Hotmail, Gmail, Bellsouth, etc to bounce the poster's message which can in turn cause the list to remove these members from the list for excessive bounces. The problem is with Yahoo. We recommend the following: 1. Unsubscribe those list members that Yahoo accounts. 2. Prevent any Yahoo.com subscriber from posting to your list until they subscribe with another non-Yahoo email address. There is no telling when Yahoo will fix this or if they ever will. Again this issue only affect where Yahoo.com users are allowed to post to the list. So the bottom line is – if you are using a Yahoo.com email account, may soon be dropped from our list. I suggest you get another email account and subscribe under that address. I do not have any recommendations at this time as to which emails are not affected. If I receive further info, I will pass it along. Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List List Problems
I have been seeing some cnc-list emails in my Gmail spam box lately, always from Yahoo accounts. When I checked them they always looked like legitimate posts to the list. I was wondering what was going on. Ken H. On 10 April 2014 19:43, Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com wrote: I recently received an email from our hosting company that indicates: Yahoo initiated a terrible policy change to their mail servers recently that impacts every single mailing list software in use. If any Yahoo.com user posts to your list, they will cause those list members are using Hotmail, Gmail, Bellsouth, etc to bounce the poster's message which can in turn cause the list to remove these members from the list for excessive bounces. The problem is with Yahoo. We recommend the following: 1. Unsubscribe those list members that Yahoo accounts. 2. Prevent any Yahoo.com subscriber from posting to your list until they subscribe with another non-Yahoo email address. There is no telling when Yahoo will fix this or if they ever will. Again this issue only affect where *Yahoo.com* users are allowed to post to the list. So the bottom line is - if you are using a Yahoo.com email account, may soon be dropped from our list. I suggest you get another email account and subscribe under that address. I do not have any recommendations at this time as to which emails are not affected. If I receive further info, I will pass it along. Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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I switched from Yahoo to gmail several weeks ago. Finally got fed up with Yahoo. Each upgrade just made things worse. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com wrote: I recently received an email from our hosting company that indicates: Yahoo initiated a terrible policy change to their mail servers recently that impacts every single mailing list software in use. If any Yahoo.com user posts to your list, they will cause those list members are using Hotmail, Gmail, Bellsouth, etc to bounce the poster's message which can in turn cause the list to remove these members from the list for excessive bounces. The problem is with Yahoo. We recommend the following: 1. Unsubscribe those list members that Yahoo accounts. 2. Prevent any Yahoo.com subscriber from posting to your list until they subscribe with another non-Yahoo email address. There is no telling when Yahoo will fix this or if they ever will. Again this issue only affect where *Yahoo.com* users are allowed to post to the list. So the bottom line is - if you are using a Yahoo.com email account, may soon be dropped from our list. I suggest you get another email account and subscribe under that address. I do not have any recommendations at this time as to which emails are not affected. If I receive further info, I will pass it along. Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
